Ideas for Fallout 4

[Alssadar]

Being a unique American places, let's go Detroit.
Think of it, we have the ruins of a large city with large opportunities for factories, gangers, and pre-war tech (I mean, being a major production station of the 50's might give it an advantage). The conflict could be a lot like F3, but changed with different tech and the changes that could have occurred from the Vault Boy (Or Girl). Outside of De-twa, we could have a host of wilderness for mutants and the remnants of the suburbs now housing communities of vault dwellers and ghouls. Players could also go to Canada and finally experience the Commonwealth, with the further expansion of cyborgs conflicting with whatever old BoS/Enclave remnants. For money senses, DLC could involve the Upper Peninsula, Lake Michigan, the conflict of BoS and Enclave in Chicago, or further along the Saint Lawrence Seaway.
I really just want to see what the Commonwealth is, as a new power. I mean, the Fallout universe is drifting away from the past to the future (as seen with the NCR on the cover of NV, not any Old American power), so employing the new civilization of the east would be fanciful. If it follows NV's choices, I guess you could either be Commonwealth, BoS, some residency of Detroit, or a large raider group, or the attempting to return Enclave.
Also, being Detroit, that would have to be some cars that could work. I wanna drive-by some peeps in the hood!

 

[Singularly Datarific]

Hate to be focused on the "wrong" parts of a game, but I hate the engine.
STEP ONE: Make it so interiors load with the town you approach. If I have to suffer through a loading screen just to enter a 10ft square shack, it is like a punch to the face.
STEP TWO: Now that your buildings load entirely, OPEN SOME DAMN WINDOWS. I hate how you can never ever ever ever see outside the building you're in, and I hate how the lighting never changes. That crappy 10 ft square shack has the exact same stupid dim light between night and day.
STEP THREE: Your Pip-Boy needs a goddamn flashlight. That stupid green glow around you is the worst light I've ever used. I need to see more than 10 feet in front of me, sometimes, or light up specific areas. We've had basic flashlight technology for many many years now, please don't forget that.
STEP FOUR: Figure out a better conversation system. Standing perfectly still with a set of dialogue choices works in 1997. Not so much in 2012. Please make the characters a little more, say, animated when they are talking. If you're still wondering what I mean, look at how Half Life does it. They have characters. They talk to you. They also do things at the same time, like walk around and operate thingies.
STEP FIVE: Now that you've figured out how to make characters more interesting when they are talking to you, make them do that with each other. Too many times I've walked into a base to see a bunch of people standing perfectly still waiting for you to walk by so they can say their one line. A good example of what I mean is Deus Ex. Both the original and Human Revolution had this sort of constant commotion in the cities, where you could walk around and see little stories unfold, like a shopkeeper being harassed for not paying "protection," or just some honest-to-God conversation between people.

Understandably, it's more about the execution, and it's not as simple as I make myself believe, but these are what Fallout is lacking most.

 

[endtherapture]

As long as it stays in America. Now, I know what people are thinking "oh but wouldn't post apocalyptic ______ be cool?" YES but not in the Falloutverse. Fallout relies on its old 1950s nuclear age Americana style for its main aesthetics, and without that.....its just another post apocalyptic game.

The formula needs to be kept fresh.

50s British pop culture is equally as iconic and cool as American one - so I think something set in London would be great.

If Fallout keeps visiting American 50s culture it will just be stale and boring - it's already started to become stale and boring I think.

The next game could just feel like a reskin of 3 or New Vegas.

Europe is gone. It nuked itself years before the Great War happened. EVERYTHING except America and China collapsed or was destroyed. absolutely. everything.

America still has interesting stuff because its a "fresh" kill. Europe was picked clean of everything long before the second wave destroyed the ruins. London (or any European city) isn't even a recognizable city anymore. The wilderness reclaimed it just like the wilderness reclaimed California.

Hell, Europe had NO vault system of any kind. It couldn't afford it. Only America could afford vaults because it owned oil reserves (including the last great oil reserve). They were forced into a war with the Middle East, which ended in a mini-MAD scenario. Oil reserves was Europe's only hope. They didn't have money for anything else.

So? After Fallout 3 it's clear they don't give a shit about the lore so might as well make a Fallout London game.

 

[endtherapture]

As long as it stays in America. Now, I know what people are thinking "oh but wouldn't post apocalyptic ______ be cool?" YES but not in the Falloutverse. Fallout relies on its old 1950s nuclear age Americana style for its main aesthetics, and without that.....its just another post apocalyptic game.

The formula needs to be kept fresh.

50s British pop culture is equally as iconic and cool as American one - so I think something set in London would be great.

If Fallout keeps visiting American 50s culture it will just be stale and boring - it's already started to become stale and boring I think.

The next game could just feel like a reskin of 3 or New Vegas.

Europe is gone. It nuked itself years before the Great War happened. EVERYTHING except America and China collapsed or was destroyed. absolutely. everything.

America still has interesting stuff because its a "fresh" kill. Europe was picked clean of everything long before the second wave destroyed the ruins. London (or any European city) isn't even a recognizable city anymore. The wilderness reclaimed it just like the wilderness reclaimed California.

Hell, Europe had NO vault system of any kind. It couldn't afford it. Only America could afford vaults because it owned oil reserves (including the last great oil reserve). They were forced into a war with the Middle East, which ended in a mini-MAD scenario. Oil reserves was Europe's only hope. They didn't have money for anything else.

So? After Fallout 3 it's clear they don't give a shit about the lore so might as well make a Fallout London game.

And they don't care about anything outside America. If they DID make a London game, I would wager that it would be a bunch of stereotypes to make fun of the UK.

They would probably make every NPC this guy, who says nothing but "ello Guv'nah." After all, Bethesda isn't known for the best writing. They play off stereotypes all the time. Its the only thing they know. And on that day, anyone in the UK would have wished they never wished for a UK based fallout game.

Hahahah that would be quite hilarious.

With cultures though...I felt Bethesda did the Nords and Skyrim a lot better than they could have - I was expecting a lot more Viking stereotypes so I was pleasantly surprised.

 

[Samsont]

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While I do love the ideas you put forward, I'm a tad hesitant on the racial issue. Do you want it to carry on to people who make black characters? Because I'm not sure how much I would like them to be punished for that.

Well one of the main points of Fallout is that it's a fifties future, but after the apocalypse I highly doubt there would be enough racist people to continue it. I like the idea of actual REAL racism issues being discussed, but besides ghouls and super mutants there's nothing out there (So far) that would make sense having people be racist towards it.
What I want to see is a better crafting system, none of that reloading bench crap, all of us know that nobody uses it. I'd want to be able to craft my own attachments for guns, and a better repair system. Like when it breaks, or weakens, a specific part/parts would break, and you would need to repair that part, or replace it.
And I know all of us want to see this, ghoul character creation option, and have it actually affect your experience, like people will point it out, and people will act differently towards you (Not necessarily being an asshole but if a guy with his skin coming off all shriveled up and stuff came up to you, you'd talk to him different too) plus unique perks for it. And maybe something interesting would be the ability to become a ghoul in-game. After a certain amount of time with very high radiation poisoning your character's body is affected, kind of like how your character's look changes in oblivion/skyrim as you go long without blood as a vampire, only for ghouls.
And to be very obvious, better combat, what another person suggested, with dual wielding could be cool. I know I for one want to run around with dual .44s shooting up enemies.

 

[I am Harbinger]

Considering it's been name dropped a few times (and I live in the same state), I'd be interested to see Denver. Depending on how you arrange the map, you could include a stretch of the Rockies, and that give you three major terrian sets, the mountains, the city, and the plains in between. Seeing as, in 3 out of the four possible endings to New Vegas, The Legion is pretty badly beaten, it would make sense that they'd have to give up some ground, possibly including Denver, which would leave a power vaccum, which a faction(NCR, Brotherhood, Enclave, etc.)could exploit to take over. The player would have the option to side with any of the factions, or, like in New Vegas, even go it alone.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Cry Wolf]

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The Fallout series needs something other than 50's/60's Americana. We get it, it was quirky and fun the first time. Even if the audience is mainly new players who have only experienced Fallout 3 and New Vegas - which I don't believe - it must be getting old. How about go over to Britan? Just fucking anywhere else.

As for plot, I'd like feel like I was actually improving or destroying the area. Like say, I can help town X or town Y expand, grow and change. It would be cool to be able to influnce how a/the town changes - say you can encourage them to become more militaristic (which would in turn the town into an agressive lot who attacks rival towns, or maybe just that order is kept via martial law) or to become an economic hub (so you'd have more random wanderers and the like).

 

[Brainpaint]

I'd like to see/read what happened in Canada during and after the war.

When it became part of the USA, how many people objected? What did they do to try and stop it?
Are there irradiated moose running around ramming and stomping wastelanders to death? Inuit nomads that escaped the bombs running trade routes with tamed grolarbear guards?
Hell, to have a Native American RACE to pick would be good.

Just putting that out there...

 

[TheOneBearded]

Let me ride a horse, PLEASE! Let me relive my Read Dead Redemption fantasies in the Fallout universe.

 

[AngleWyrm]

Not interested in another apocalypse FPS/3PS. Bored bored bored of the walk a mile and open a tin can thing.

 

[HappyCastor]

How about we start at towns with more then 10 goddamn people in them? If I walk into a city, I should feel like I'm in a city, not a Hutterite convention. Even just 1000 or so would do, because hey, post-apocalypse right? I'm not asking for Tokyo here, just enough for me to get lost in the experience.

 

[verdant monkai]

Question
Does Fallout always have to be in America?

I dislike the fallout series. 3 sucked because the shooting was clunky and awkward. The AI was accurate as hell and I often got caught out in the middle of nowhere and got shot to pieces, whilst I tried to melle them, cos I had no bullets in the first place.

Why not base a fallout game somewhere new? I understand that developed area's will all look very similar in a post apocalypse situation. But Russia or India would look different they have based all of them so far as I know in a America why not mix it up a bit?

All of the back lore is about America, as far as we know bombs fell everywhere else, but they didn't have vault-tech so no one else would have survivors, at least not enough non-ghoul survivors to establish a society

Oh that sucks
Thanks for the info anyway

I know some Russians froze in a ice lolly factory, got frozen in a cryogenic state and woke up after the fallout when the temperature spiked. Problem solved now make Fallout Moscow Bethesda, make it now. And less of the shit controls and eagle eyed AI please..thankyou

 

[CMD_Obvious]

More diverse weapons, and I mean, BORDERLANDS STYLE DIVERSE
every weapon should be unique, one time, shotgun with 29 DAM, next shotgun with 35 DAM and fire element.

 

[Peter Pottorff]

Just do Van Bueren in it's entirety

 

[Arakasi]

They should have vehicles (Tactics had them after all).

They should have more realistic settlements like in the originals with irrigated crops on farms and wells for water.

Well, that was kind of what the NCR had in New Vegas, with their large irrigated farming land.

And I agree with the vehciles, but only under the condition that they take out fast-travel, and make it difficult to aquire later vehicles (I don't want to be able to just stumble into a Vertibird straight away).

I also think that the next Fallout should have an ending you can play after. It was annoying in New Vegas, and was annoying in Fallout 3 (minus the DLC).

P.S. I think the game is going to be based in Massachusetts (New England Commonwealth) with the Institute and androids playing a large role in the game's decisions.

 

[Mrcolie5]

Ok, no one shout there head off at me, but what if they did a fallout london game after fallout 4 like they did new vegas after fallout 3. The thing is if you look on the fallout wiki before the great war, there was a smaller war between europe and the middle east. This only resulted in a couple of nukes getting fired. This meaning alot of places in london would be alright after about 200 years. There would be a set of the prime minister and is aids, and vaults for importan people under downing street. The beefeaters of the tower of london hid themselfs in with the crown jewls, meaning they where defended. People rushed down to the basement of the british museum, where the stone is so thick it would have defended them. Also there is the underground which would have shielded people. You start out as a squad of men who get ambushed by a set of men in power armor(they are really the enclave remnants fleeing the US lookig for more power and finding out about something secret), (power armor which is hardly seen in england, only the private guards of the prime minister had it) Your guys are killed and you get shot by some experimental mini nuke, which after wards you wake up in the Hostpital of the London Empire,(the remnants of the primeminister found the survivors in british museum) it turns out that you have been goulified by this weapon. You then set out to find out about more about who you where before(part of a deniable op squad sent by the primeminister, to find their emergency stock of actual nukes under london, which is what the enclave are looking for) You can go out, join the enclave, the London empire, the beefers(beef eaters who made thier own independant state int the ruins of the tower of london, but allied with the empire) or the Royals( a set of raiders who now inhabit buckingham palace). Though due to so few nukes lots of information would reamin from before the war, finding out more about the culutre, and the with the hidden nukes find out who fired the missels first, therefore starting the great war. Also using like collapseable bikes, not motor bikes that you can use to travel london.

 

[Arakasi]

Also using like collapseable bikes, not motor bikes that you can use to travel london.

I can see it now... Power suited sqads riding bicycles...

 

[Mrcolie5]

Also using like collapseable bikes, not motor bikes that you can use to travel london.

I can see it now... Power suited sqads riding bicycles...

Maybe only for use when having light armor, a more menovarable option then the heavy rare power armor. Also it gets rid of needing fuel as you only need your own body for a bike

 

[redisforever]

I want it to be less brown. Seriously, I got turned off the game after playing it for a few hours, because there were two colours. Brown, and grimy green. Bleh. I want something that looks like this:

Spoiler: Warning, large images

 

[Pegghead]

While I love the whole ruined Americana feel of the Fallout games, I reckon it would be really cool if they set one in a sort of teddy-boy '50s London. Decrepit Union Flags hung in grimy windows, the shattered face of Big Ben dominating the horizon, fighting gangs of teddy-boys in streets marred with the burnt-out shells of nuclear-powered double-decker buses and black cabs, the authoritarian remains of the British royal family to deal with (possibly in-bred after so many years to the point of hilarity).

As for American settings, I think they should expand on what they shot for in Point Lookout and go with j-e-f-f-e-r-s' idea.

What would I like to see? A Fallout game set in Louisiana. Fallout: New Orleans, or something like that. The setting has everything you would need to make a new Fallout game that has enough of the old games to be recognisable, but enough new stuff to actually feel original and fresh.