Oh, you lost a leg? I'm sorry to hear that. Take this pill every day for the rest of your life and you wont feel like you're missing said leg. Still wont be able to walk without crutches though. Enjoy!
"Haven't you just tried using basic cognitive faculties and empathy? Really, can't you just try harder?"SimpleThunda said:There are a lot of people in this thread who are feeling very sorry for themselves.
Very true, but many of these issues have underlying physiological causes (such as poor communication between the Cortex and the Ganglia), that may or may not be helped by therapy or drugs. There are times to treat the illness, times to treat the symptoms, and times to help the person adjust to the issue at hand and move forward with life. There is no clear cut line when it comes to mental issues as there are a plethora of different sources.Korolev said:Actually, in modern medicine, we are trained to offer, as first line treatment of mild to moderate depression or anxiety, CBT - Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. These are mental exercises and therapy sessions that are designed to help the patient utilize their own rational thought processes to combat anxiety or depression. And it does work. Of course, it is much more complicated than "Just Think Better!" - it's actually a rather intense process that helps teach the sufferer cognitive tricks to help break out of depression and anxiety. And it DOES work, for many patients with Mild to Moderate Depression.
Of course, it does not work for everyone, and the courses are expensive if you don't live in a country that has free public health care (Yay for Australia!) and it doesn't work for severely depressed patients who simply won't respond to CBT (it requires engagement on the part of the patient, and if you are severely depressed you have trouble engaging with anything). But the point remains that we are trained to offer courses that are, largely, designed to help people THINK better, and THINK happier. You can combat Depression and Anxiety with therapy designed to help the patient feel better about themselves and adopt a more positive attitude. It's not a simple process - the depressed patient can't just "Feel" better magically. But they can often be taught how to think in a more positive light. Drugs are not always necessary to treat depression - sure, they are good for many patients and they are a very useful tool for helping people, but they aren't the only tool and if you have mild depression you may want to try CBT instead of Anti-depressants. If CBT doesn't work, you will have to use Anti-Depressants, but medication shouldn't be thought of as the first and only solution to mental problems.
So, yes, it isn't nice to say "Just Not-Be-Depressed". Rather, patients should "undertake months of therapy designed to slowly teach them to think in ways which will lead them from depression".
Actually, no it's not. Depression, Anxiety, Bipolar disorder, and a whole host of other things are very much real, and very much treatable. And the treatment is pretty much the fucking opposite of "Get over it". There are various medications, and CBT, and more people would seek these out if people like you didn't go around trying to make people feel worse, and stigmatising mental health issues, of which you seem to have your own.SimpleThunda said:Feeling sorry for yourself is the first step to never recovering.Loonyyy said:"Haven't you just tried using basic cognitive faculties and empathy? Really, can't you just try harder?"SimpleThunda said:There are a lot of people in this thread who are feeling very sorry for themselves.
There, one for you too!
But I'll leave this jolly bunch to their own devices.
Oh, but he is being ever so edgy and aloof.Loonyyy said:So please, do leave them to their own devices. Leave the discussion. Because you aren't helping. You're just reinforcing ignorance and callousness.
Same thing happens in the military. In my case it was "Torn tendon in your leg? Run on it more, toughen it up. Have some ibuprofen." and "Burst disc in your back? Have some ibuprofen... now lift that 30mm cannon up to the belly of that aircraft. Now go drive an offroad vehicle on a broken road for 16 hours. You're fine."balladbird said:I know this is a comedy thread, but I just gotta point out that there are a lot of venues where people really do treat physical problems with the same lack of understanding or compassion as mental problems. In my experiences in the worlds of high school sports and amateur boxing (especially those trying to break into the pro circuit) it's not at all uncommon for hack coaches/trainers to tell an athlete to "walk it off" or "play through the pain" until they've ruined their careers, if not their lives, with crippling injuries.
it's a bit of a non sequitur, but felt relevant simply because it's hard to laugh at some of these parodies, since I've heard them played straight before. XD