Ignorant fools!
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That's how you're defending modern rap and hip-hop? With Kanye West and Dizzee Rascal? You won't convince anyone. Dan Le Sac vs Scroobius Pip and Atmosphere are what I would use in defence, but I guess 'opinions' and all that.the Dept of Science said:
Of course the 'metal is all about killing people and it's all loud and screamy' one is a bit retarded. Sure, there's plenty of metal that's like that, but most of it is shit. All the best metal is perfectly intelligible and not so heavy that it's just sludgy noise.
Sticking in the vein of music, 'ska punk has no meaning or musical value/ is a bastardization of ska' are ones I've heard a lot, and are pretty much balls. For starters, there are plenty of 3rd wave songs that are meaningful, Streetlight Manifesto alone can prove that, although lots of ska is about having fun. And ska uses a lot of odd chords, and most of the basslines and drumbeats are crazy. And as for it being a bastardization? That is, in short, bullshit. Jamaican ska was largely about having fun and living in the ghetto; it was relevent to the people making it. 2nd wave was picked up and made it relevant to white English people, and 3rd wave did the same for American youth. Ska has always been adapted to the people making it, ot unlike other genres. It's just more noticable.
when im tired or bored, i tend to take first impressions VERY seriously. ive been known to quite literally judge books by their covers
Escapists thinking they are high minded geniuses, hating everything mainstream because they think it makes them special. At the same time complaining about how they are hated by everyone and not having a girlfriend. Sad sacks of shit.
A friend of mine at college has a collection of (I SHIT YOU NOT) nearly a THOUSAND movies. Probably over a thousand by now. He does not let anyone watch them unless he is watching them too. I asked him about it once and he said that they are for HIS enjoyment. I mean I asked him once about borrowing a movie before asking him that which was met with a comment like "People only ask me to borrow movies." Well no shit you have like every GOOD modern movie ever made. He feels like since he can buy all the movies he likes he shouldn't have to lend them out.
Story of me being ignorant:
Story of someone else being ignorant. NOTE this might offend catholics:
I used to be quite ignorant of the Harry Potter series. My mother checked out the first book and forced me to read it. I rebelled so much she punished me until I finished the whole thing. Despite the fact it was in the genre I liked and it was constantly recommended to me, I outright refused to read them.
This summer I got to go to Universal Studios in Orlando, and I'm sure most of you know of the recent area made, "The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." Throughout my time there, I became more interested in the story, and by the time I left, I told my family I'd try it out.
Lo and behold, when I went to DR after that, my mother had left the first book at my Grandmother's house. Read it, loved, it, had nothing else to read, so I read through it about three more times. I am currently reading the seventh and last book, Deathly Hallows, and have just watched the first movie. The same happened with the movie "Avatar" and many foods I've tried out.
This summer I got to go to Universal Studios in Orlando, and I'm sure most of you know of the recent area made, "The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." Throughout my time there, I became more interested in the story, and by the time I left, I told my family I'd try it out.
Lo and behold, when I went to DR after that, my mother had left the first book at my Grandmother's house. Read it, loved, it, had nothing else to read, so I read through it about three more times. I am currently reading the seventh and last book, Deathly Hallows, and have just watched the first movie. The same happened with the movie "Avatar" and many foods I've tried out.
Story of someone else being ignorant. NOTE this might offend catholics:
I used to go to a catholic school. Whoops, let me correct myself; it was an extremist catholic school. RELIGION MUST DOMINATE YOUR LIFE HERE!!!!11!! PRAYING COMES BEFORE EATING! YOU CAN GO WITHOUT FOOD!!! YOU CANNOT GO WITHOUT PRAYER!!!!
Back on track. I heard a few girls talking bad about Obama, how he isn't fair and everything. What caught my attention was when one said "And he's for abortion." I asked them what it meant, as I didn't know back then. I got "It's when you kill a baby before it's born." I replied I thought it wouldn't be bad as long as it was early; if possible, have the baby, but if it interfered with you life, then I thought it justified. They IMMEDIATELY began telling me "It's still a life" and "what if your mother aborted you?"
Later that day, they brought me the school newspaper. It had a picture of three kids holding signs that said "Abortion is bad." They told me "see? This is proof abortion is bad." I thought, "So I can write on a sign that shitting is another form of birth, and that would be proof?" So these people thought Obama was horrible because he was pro-choice. Just as a note, I am pro-choice myself. They even had a rally at that school while I was there, protesting abortion. If I wasn't surrounded by catholics, I would have facepalmed.
Back on track. I heard a few girls talking bad about Obama, how he isn't fair and everything. What caught my attention was when one said "And he's for abortion." I asked them what it meant, as I didn't know back then. I got "It's when you kill a baby before it's born." I replied I thought it wouldn't be bad as long as it was early; if possible, have the baby, but if it interfered with you life, then I thought it justified. They IMMEDIATELY began telling me "It's still a life" and "what if your mother aborted you?"
Later that day, they brought me the school newspaper. It had a picture of three kids holding signs that said "Abortion is bad." They told me "see? This is proof abortion is bad." I thought, "So I can write on a sign that shitting is another form of birth, and that would be proof?" So these people thought Obama was horrible because he was pro-choice. Just as a note, I am pro-choice myself. They even had a rally at that school while I was there, protesting abortion. If I wasn't surrounded by catholics, I would have facepalmed.
Can i just mention. Looking through my thread "is she selfish to want a baby"... i think many teenagers should please look up the effects of the "pill" when it comes to contraception
several seem under the impression that it kills sperm cells or stops the egg fertilising/developing.
actually this is completely wrong. Most of the pills either cause the lining of the uterus to become thicker, stopping the fertilised egg burrowing, where by its lost during the period. Or they stop the ovary releasing an egg at all.
several seem under the impression that it kills sperm cells or stops the egg fertilising/developing.
actually this is completely wrong. Most of the pills either cause the lining of the uterus to become thicker, stopping the fertilised egg burrowing, where by its lost during the period. Or they stop the ovary releasing an egg at all.
Obviously not, don't confuse me with a devout and close minded rap fan arguing against a devout and close minded rock/metal fan (i'm assuming he's a fan of that, although he could be a dance nut for all I know). But I was merely pointing out the absurdity of it all.bahumat42 said:
Rock fanboys hate 'rap' cause all they hear is 'Fiddy' bragging about guns, bitches and his copious amounts of wealth on the radio and rap fanboys hate 'rock' music because all they hear are Coldplay playing the same bland, not-saying-anything-to-me dross on the radio. Lets clear this up, the majority of any genre is bollocks but you can't say that one genre is crap and retarded and that another is better because let's face it, the music you listen to isn't the stuff that appears on the charts every week under the "rock" or "rap" moniker, it's gonna be a bit more obscure than that, same goes for any fan of any genre.
And I say that as someone who has everything from Led Zep, Daft Punk to Outkast on a single playlist*.
Also, please don't patronise me about music classification. It's rather irritating.
*My "Rocking Out" one, if anyone's interested.
He would make it a point to lend movies to a single person when the person asked because he was his partner for some project so that it would keep the person happy. The person still ended up fucking him over in the end and not helping him finish one of his projects when he had helped him finish his.bahumat42 said:
Bought xenosaga for $5, popped it in, saw the art style, and turned it off.
I then realized my ignorance later week (More like i ran out of new games to play) and decided to give it another chance. Ended up being my second favorite JRPG next to mother 3 (damn you Nintendo, WE NEED AN IMPORT.)
I then realized my ignorance later week (More like i ran out of new games to play) and decided to give it another chance. Ended up being my second favorite JRPG next to mother 3 (damn you Nintendo, WE NEED AN IMPORT.)
Have you listened to Boy in da Corner by Dizzee Rascal? Its one of the most honest albums that I have ever listened to*. Captured the attitudes and opinions of many British youth in the same way that the Sex Pistols or Blur did before them. Fully deserves the Mercury Prize and 92% on Metacritic.TheRightToArmBears said:
I've seen both Dizzee Rascal and Dan Le Sac vs Scroobius Pip live, and Dizzee is far superior.
DlSvsSP are the worst sort of self congradulating hipster-hop. Bland counterculturalism. Wholly unimaginative sampling. Nothing that hasn't been done better elsewhere.
*outside of folk perhaps
Lousy Mozart. He never shreds!the Dept of Science said:
"I like melody" seems legit. If you don't like rap, you don't like rap. I don't like the style involved in most electronica and techno. It's not even "it all sounds the same" so much as "I'm not really into these elements. If a band screams, I'm less likely to enjoy them, as well. It means I tend to avoid certain genres, like many metal subgenres, because I find the elements unappealing.
But the other ones are kinda...Bad.
I like rap, for the record. Not all rap, probably not even most of it (Sturgeon's Law FTW), but I do find the essentials appealing. I just accept that without that element, there's little for you in rap.