I'm a masochist; recommend games
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I would recommend XCOM: Enemy Unknown (the one that *just* released), it's a really challenging (also rewarding) game. When selecting difficulty, go with "Classic" or "Impossible" mode. Impossible is by definition nearly impossible, so if it's your first play, go with Classic or even Normal. In the same window, go to Advanced, and tick the box that says "Ironman". What Ironman does is makes your failures and consequences permanent, and your saves are merely there to keep your progress. Just lost your entire squad, or your favorite man? Too bad, can't reload your save. Fail a critical mission? Too bad. Push on with what you have left.
You get really attached to your squad, as you can name them, alter their appearance and choose how they're upgraded. When you lose someone you've had from the beginning, it really sucks. As it is, I just lost my entire squad in a mission, they were my crack team that I've had for about 10 hours. While I've lost Ace squads before, this loss really hit hard, and I have to dig deep for resources now, etc. Go Ironman or go home.
Great game.
You get really attached to your squad, as you can name them, alter their appearance and choose how they're upgraded. When you lose someone you've had from the beginning, it really sucks. As it is, I just lost my entire squad in a mission, they were my crack team that I've had for about 10 hours. While I've lost Ace squads before, this loss really hit hard, and I have to dig deep for resources now, etc. Go Ironman or go home.
Great game.
Isn't that the standard way to do it? Well, at least that's how I learnt it and most of the people I know.leet_x1337 said:
Anyway, on topic, there are several single player games that do require presicion, but I can't get the same thrill. I would suggest either SC II or SF IV, PvP single player games are more tense IMO.
Legend of Grimrock is pretty damn hard - but it is good to play a solo RPG that poses a challenge for a change - instead of grinding for over-powered weapons, you have to really stop and think, and plan how to deal with the puzzles and enemies. It's kinda retro, like the 16-bit dungeon crawlers like Bloodwych, Eye of the Beholder, or Dungeon Master especially.
There's also Minecraft Tekkit - a different kind of challenge, that's really more about engineering than anything, even survival - but it can be a lot of fun to come up with an idea and develop it with Tekkit, trying to keep everything neat, trying to avoid explosions etc etc. I think playing hardcore mode Tekkit is about as challenging as any 1 game should ever need to be.
For the DS, well Scribblenaughts is awesome, sometimes you have to really think about how to solve the levels, sometimes you solve em with pure luck, or by methods that other games just wouldn't allow. Room full of zombies and dinosaurs? - spawn Chuck Norris, job done.
N+ on the DS is worth a look as well, if you like challenging platformers like Meat Boy.
Torchlight can be pretty damn difficult as well - that's more like LoL I guess, maybe worth a look as it'll be dirt cheap - in fact it was part of the last Humble Bundle, which is pretty awesome if you consider how big Torchlight is.
And Binding of Isaac, it's basically the dungeon section from the original Zelda game with some awesome sick humour, lots of variety, every game is different, but most importantly it's a hellish challenge, I've still not managed to kill mom after 6 months or so of playing.
There's also Minecraft Tekkit - a different kind of challenge, that's really more about engineering than anything, even survival - but it can be a lot of fun to come up with an idea and develop it with Tekkit, trying to keep everything neat, trying to avoid explosions etc etc. I think playing hardcore mode Tekkit is about as challenging as any 1 game should ever need to be.
For the DS, well Scribblenaughts is awesome, sometimes you have to really think about how to solve the levels, sometimes you solve em with pure luck, or by methods that other games just wouldn't allow. Room full of zombies and dinosaurs? - spawn Chuck Norris, job done.
N+ on the DS is worth a look as well, if you like challenging platformers like Meat Boy.
Torchlight can be pretty damn difficult as well - that's more like LoL I guess, maybe worth a look as it'll be dirt cheap - in fact it was part of the last Humble Bundle, which is pretty awesome if you consider how big Torchlight is.
And Binding of Isaac, it's basically the dungeon section from the original Zelda game with some awesome sick humour, lots of variety, every game is different, but most importantly it's a hellish challenge, I've still not managed to kill mom after 6 months or so of playing.
Buy a PS2 for cheap.
Buy God Hand from Ebay (it goes for about $60 so it's kinda like buying a new game).
Honestly, you don't have to be a masochist to enjoy God Hand, but if you want a game that beats you down harshly and expects you to learn from your mistakes in order to move forward, no other game does it better than Mikami's last Capcom game. You will die a lot, and you will want to blame anything and everything, but when you finally overcome an area or a difficult enemy, the feeling of satisfaction is almost unparalleled in gaming.
Buy God Hand from Ebay (it goes for about $60 so it's kinda like buying a new game).
Honestly, you don't have to be a masochist to enjoy God Hand, but if you want a game that beats you down harshly and expects you to learn from your mistakes in order to move forward, no other game does it better than Mikami's last Capcom game. You will die a lot, and you will want to blame anything and everything, but when you finally overcome an area or a difficult enemy, the feeling of satisfaction is almost unparalleled in gaming.
Going to have to echo FTL, that game is brilliant. You can beat it in 90 minutes, but good luck, it's possible that you'll go 30 games and not win.
The new XCOM game on Classic/Ironman difficulty is pretty challenging, but not insane. If you really, really want to have your face ground into the dirt, then put it up to impossible difficulty. I'm not sure it's even possible to win on that difficulty, it almost feels like a joke for the people who want to suffer without any hope.
EDIT: Also another one I forgot about since it looks so kiddy is rayman origins. I've been playing that lately, it starts out simple and easy, but it ramps up, hard. I was honestly taken aback, some of the later levels are ridiculous. Especially the bonus levels where you have to keep up with a creature that's running away from you very quickly, and you have to time your jumps perfectly and never stop sprinting if you don't want to be pushed off the screen.
The new XCOM game on Classic/Ironman difficulty is pretty challenging, but not insane. If you really, really want to have your face ground into the dirt, then put it up to impossible difficulty. I'm not sure it's even possible to win on that difficulty, it almost feels like a joke for the people who want to suffer without any hope.
EDIT: Also another one I forgot about since it looks so kiddy is rayman origins. I've been playing that lately, it starts out simple and easy, but it ramps up, hard. I was honestly taken aback, some of the later levels are ridiculous. Especially the bonus levels where you have to keep up with a creature that's running away from you very quickly, and you have to time your jumps perfectly and never stop sprinting if you don't want to be pushed off the screen.
dungeons of dredmor... with the vampire skill... and going rogue... and permadeath! usually vampirism is an asset, but when you are getting your ass kicked, then you are more or less fucked, unless u have potions 
EDIT: also generally any game set the the hardest possible difficulty will tickle your masochism
Double EDIT Mass Effect on insanity
EDIT: also generally any game set the the hardest possible difficulty will tickle your masochism
Double EDIT Mass Effect on insanity
You forgot Angband! Andband is a fantastic game - steep learning curve, perma-death, surprisingly sophisticated mechanics, quylthulgs!Razentsu said:
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If ascii-based games are too lo-fi for the OP, I second the recommendation of Dungeons of Dredmor. It's cheap on steam!
Any Fire Emblem game on highest difficulty, and try to never loose a named fighter.
The games are well-made for the record, they're just hard as hell. I hope you like thinking 10 moves in advance.
The games are well-made for the record, they're just hard as hell. I hope you like thinking 10 moves in advance.
I'd recommend VVVVVV, Super Meat Boy, Shank 1 on hard Difficulty, and Jamestown will deflower you into a coma at the higher levels. Also the Stalker series.
Ninja Gaiden NES or the Ninja Gaiden for XBOX, I think it was Ninja Gaiden Black, both are BRUTAL.
Dark Souls has been mentioned.
Shadow of Collosus is an awesome title for PS2, not exactly insane difficulty, but every fight is a boss fight that will take you hours to figure out, especially the later bosses.
Shining Force on the hardest difficulty is mezmerisingly hard. It's like playing chess against a machine that thinks 5 moves ahead.
Finally, if you want a truly impossible challenge, find a copy of Red Faction, the original game for PS2, and put it on the hardest difficulty. Good luck, and even that won't help you.
Dark Souls has been mentioned.
Shadow of Collosus is an awesome title for PS2, not exactly insane difficulty, but every fight is a boss fight that will take you hours to figure out, especially the later bosses.
Shining Force on the hardest difficulty is mezmerisingly hard. It's like playing chess against a machine that thinks 5 moves ahead.
Finally, if you want a truly impossible challenge, find a copy of Red Faction, the original game for PS2, and put it on the hardest difficulty. Good luck, and even that won't help you.
THANKYOU!!!!!!!rhizhim said:then you MUST play these:leet_x1337 said:
I was scrolling down the thread and getting pissed off because no one was mentioning "I wanna be the guy". It isn't a game about a cold unfeeling world where death is around every corner, it is a horrible evil hateful world where death is around every corner, is on your side of the corner and is in fact the corner itself. It makes dark souls look like barnies hide and seek on the sega genesis when it comes to difficulty.
There's a very easy mode, but the game isn't actually easier, theres just more check points so you have to walk slightly less far for the next 50 times you die, and they make you wear a pretty pink bow in your hair for playing on very easy to show that your a little b*tch.
There's no reason not to play it, its free and its both hilarious and frustrating.
The Void. Incredibly punishing game. Technically an action adventure but you'll need a lot of strategy and planning to effectively play it and even then.......... Probably one of the hardest games I've played in a long time. And yes I have played and finished Dark Souls.
La-Mulana - awesome game, metroidvania style but with some incredibly tough puzzles and sections.
La-Mulana - awesome game, metroidvania style but with some incredibly tough puzzles and sections.
Mortal Online: A painfully realistic fantasy sim. And if you get bored you can commit suicide and then eat yourself. I am not kidding.
http://www.mortalonline.com/
http://www.mortalonline.com/
Try Prototype.
The game itself isn't particularly hard, but it is so mindcrushingly awful you'd have to loathe yourself for even considering playing it.
The game itself isn't particularly hard, but it is so mindcrushingly awful you'd have to loathe yourself for even considering playing it.
Sounds like Dark/Demon's souls would be right up your ally. XCOM and FTL are good too, although they can sometimes stretch towards the "THAT'S BULLSHIT" territory.
Good thing about my recommendation, is there's very little to no luck involved. All skill, just you and the game.
If a high-flying, obstacle overcoming, physics based side-scrolling motorbike game sounds fun, than you might consider Trials 2: Second Edition on PC, or Trials HD or Trials: Evolution on XBLA (maybe HD is on PSN, I forget). It's extremely hard. There are no difficulty settings, but the levels are tiered by difficulty. But, even the "easy" levels, specifically Trials 2's, can be very hard when you're new. There's also leaderboards and very difficult achievements. It'd probably take you hundreds of hours to beat every level--for comparison, I'd say an expert could complete every stage with no falls in just over an hour, maybe less. I'd say Trials 2 has more precise but harder to grasp control, but HD and Evolution have easier to learn control. They have identical controls, I'm talking about the physics system. Trials 2's is more sensitive, requiring more precision, than HD or Evolution's.
If a high-flying, obstacle overcoming, physics based side-scrolling motorbike game sounds fun, than you might consider Trials 2: Second Edition on PC, or Trials HD or Trials: Evolution on XBLA (maybe HD is on PSN, I forget). It's extremely hard. There are no difficulty settings, but the levels are tiered by difficulty. But, even the "easy" levels, specifically Trials 2's, can be very hard when you're new. There's also leaderboards and very difficult achievements. It'd probably take you hundreds of hours to beat every level--for comparison, I'd say an expert could complete every stage with no falls in just over an hour, maybe less. I'd say Trials 2 has more precise but harder to grasp control, but HD and Evolution have easier to learn control. They have identical controls, I'm talking about the physics system. Trials 2's is more sensitive, requiring more precision, than HD or Evolution's.