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monkey_man

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I don't think anything. Just don't use the mic when your voice sounds like a rubbing glove rubbing a plastic surface. It's really annoying to have squeaky noises come from the mic when you are playing a game which involved murder, blood, and de-limbing.
 

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It really depends on the 10 year old in question.
Maybe a few can hold their own, but most can't which makes their opinion less valuable because they can not bring it across or aren't smart and/or experienced enough to have a grasp of the situation/idea/debate.

Any opinion is worthless in a debate if you can't bring it across clearly!
 

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retyopy said:
Well, that's pretty one sided. No other sides are right? Ever?
In an argument between parent and 10 year-old child? Nope, never.

Anyone else is free to disagree with the parent, and there's no rule saying the parent has to be a dick. And if it goes out of hand the authorities have every right to interfere.

But a child of 10 listens to his parents, they're supposed to raise him. That means he's supposed to listen.
 

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There is a reason kids need to go to school :p

Hell, there's a reason i'm still in education. A ten year old cannot put together an argument well and if one does its known as the exception to the rule. Yeah, that last bit was totally put there to put off those assholes who show one video of a smart 10 year old and try to pass if off as the only example of 10 year old's in the world.

Kids are usually loudmouthed and whiny, even online. The few that haven't been are usually the ones who are smarter, but usually, they'll still not have the experience to argue their point across.
 

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Well, it depends on the context. I wouldn't expect you to be much of an authority on the mood after 9/11, or to have a real opinion on the O.J. Simpson trial, or just how amazing an athlete was Bo Jackson.
 

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Last Hugh Alive said:
It depends on the topic. A 10 year old's thoughts on, say, a game is just as valid as any other person's opinion. But if we're discussing something that relates to real world experiences or general adult stuff, then you have to question the 10 year old's knowledge and credibility in the discussion.

And generally they aren't as sophisticated, intelligent or educated enough to hold much weight in certain discussions.
Pretty much this, If you want to see the limits of a 10 year olds reasoning and intelligence, watch Newsround on the BBC. It's basically the news for teenagers. Yes, they are able to dicuss the mature topics, but usually it's heavily watered down and simplified so the complexity of the situation is kind of lost, and then teens can text in their opinions of the issues, and usually you find that they say two things, either: "Everyones ignoring our opinion, and that's terrible." Or "Adults are so dumb, the answer to the problem is clearly this."
 

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In of itself it doesn't. But I, unlike you (apparently) haven't met a 10 year old who can debate against an adult.

Just like most of the arguments you here on this forum from teenagers aren't invalid BECAUSE they're teenagers. But the fact that they're teenagers makes it more likely that their arguments will be shallow and poorly thought out. :)
 

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retyopy said:
Well, that's pretty one sided. No other sides are right? Ever?
Nope.

Parents are always right ..... regardless.

Especially my wife, she's never wrong ..... and if she is ever wrong and I point it out I get a night on the sofa ..... so she's never wrong.

I've never lost an argument with any of my kids. All arguments can be settled with 4 simple words "go to your room", argument over, I win.

I wouldn't say age makes much difference. My stepdaughter is 18 and there are times she gets the misguided impression she can win.

Also depends on the points being debated.
 

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For me, it depends on the discussion/opinion. But generally, in my opinion, most 10 year olds do not have as much experience in life or, for want of a better word, wisdom as older people. That's not to say they are worthless as human beings! But if I wanted a rational debate on something, I'd not immediately ask a 10 year olds opinion.
 

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It's a bit of an awkward issue, really.

Something said by a ten year old is not automatically wrong.

On the other hand, the thought processes and experiences of a ten year old are going to generally be considered to be of much less worth than an older person.

So, presumably the correct response is to listen to the ten year old, judge what they say, but not be surprised if they turn out to be wrong.

On the other hand, though, that logic means you have to put up with listening to every gibbering idiot, in case they aren't wrong this time.

For example, I've never been to Kansas, I've never met anyone from there, I've never researched it. If I was to come up with a long post about how Kansas people, you shouldn't pay too much attention to me at all. I can jump up and down and tell you all to listen, you don't know I'm wrong till you've you do (and won't all you Kansas people stop whatever you are doing and explain the truth to me so I don't have to research it myself), but nobody will blame you for ignoring me.
 

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retyopy said:
Or let's say, hypothetically, that I was. Does that lessen the value of my opinion? Does that make my part in a discussion less worthwhile?
That depends. For example, when it comes to sex related discussion then yes, your opinion is worth shit (even less than that).
Also, you probably didn't get self aware till about 3 and at that age, you just swallowed whatever anyone told you so during your kindergarten years, you were just a sponge.
When you got to school, you were busy learning how to write and count to form complex opinions of various subjects.
Basically, it all comes down to is who were the people you were growing up among (and genes, I guess) and what kind of knowledge you've absorbed in the few years you've spent on this planet.
I've met an 11 year old who was a much better discussion partner on the topic of religion than grown ups. Because of the fact that he was still in the process of forming himself (probably) he actually thought about the possibility that The Bible might just be false instead of what the grown ups present at the time said (the best answer I've got was "Scientists have recently found evidence of the existence of a soul"). He also didn't have that sense of superiority over others (age thing I suppose).

So I think that 10-year can be good discussion partners... but they're usually not since they're still dumb fucks like everyone else, except with less knowledge :)
 

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Yes.
A 10 year old has no life experience. They don't have the credentials to back up their aguments. They've never had to work for a living, they've never had any responsibilities, they've never done anything of merit. Their brains aren't even fully developed yet.

They're 10 years old, they're children.


You can't judge everyone on the standards of the few superior individuals.
They will prove themselves despite any preconceptions.
 

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No, but the likelyhood of your opinion being valid on its own merit is far lower than if you were, say, 20.

Not due to age, but due to -

* More life experience
* Having had more time to accumulate knowledge
* Having had more time to develop your critical thinking skills
 

VladG

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Yes it does. For a number of reasons:

1 They lack knowledge and life experience. Their arguments are most likely based on faulty of incomplete information. They are not yet well educated in how to present an opinion with proper arguments. Very normal, everybody has to learn this stuff, nobody is born with it

2 Their brains are still developing. As such they do physically lack the mental ability of adults, they have shorter attention spans leading to faulty logic, a predisposition to accept things without thinking about them or questioning them and a narrower view of the world around them

3 Kids are less likely to form a cold, logical argument, and more likely to color their opinions with emotional value.

That however doesn't mean that a 10 year old can't be right or think things through or win an argument. It just means that an average 10 year old is generally less capable of that than an average adult.
 

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age-ism is as much an offensive act of catagorization as sexism and raceism

but it is a more accepted kind catagorization, partially because kids are probably one of today's groups that are the least capable to stand up an claim their rights, and partially because it is a kind of "ism" that hasn't been very much approached yet.

sure the "children should be seen but not heard" policy have been dying for quite a while now, but no, we still do not value the opinion of a 10 year old as much as we would value the opinion of an adult, even though it might concern a subject where a 10 year olds opinion could be just as valuable and valid.

a kid could have twice the experience than that of a 20 year old but it sill wouldn't matter, in most cases an adult would still not consider the value of that opinion seriously.
there have been young intelligent people that have been forced to lie about their age to be heard, and it is often very effective.
there are kids that have to face the adult world at the age of 10, while there are 25 year olds still fooling around in life, living in their parents' basement, not really taking anything seriously.
still the 25 year olds opinion would be considered more valid, hell, that guy would be allowed to vote, deciding what should happen with an entire nation.

sometimes a wonder if not the concept of maturity vs immaturity are just made up ideas of how we should act but don't alway do.

adults are supposed to act a certain way, but often when you think about it they are barely any more matture than a 10 year old.
conflicts are a great example of this, there are rules for how we should solve conflicts as adults but really, most of the times we do the childish thing: call names, ***** about the other persons flaws, backstabbing and wild accusations.
the only real difference between those adults and a kid is that the adult is more capable of concealing this childishness with fancy wording.

so maturity or immaturity really shouldn't be considered age bound it is just a catagory of actions.

and in the end age-ism is not about kids, we are all catagorized by this, you are more likely to concider the opinion of a 70 year old as pure bitterness rather than an actual opinion.


Generic Gamer said:
By and large ten year olds don't have the ability to appreciate the full consequences of their actions, the ability to logically follow a situation through to it's logical conclusion or the sheer experience needed to put together a complex hypothesis.
there have been research with in psychology that claims that you aren't mentally capable to comprehend the full extent of your actions and the consequenses to follow until you are 25, but you'd still value the opinion of a 24 year old as much as that of 26 year old, but of course these are just theories and not proven facts


btw, sry if it was hard to follow because of wierd wording or spelling, it is a late day at work for me =P
 

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There are a small minority of ten-12 year olds who, as you say, are just infant trolls.

however, a large group of ten-twelve year olds are smarter than all of us. so just because their young don't write them off just yet
 

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Now while I may not let anyone 13 or younger sing or drive, I still think they have the right to their opinion. I mean, if the majority of adults in America are fucking stupid, then how much dumber can a 10 year old be?
 
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Age influences the experiences you can have dealt with. I wouldn't expect a ten year old to have a great opinion on sex, for instance.

That doesn't lessen the wisdom of the experience, just the amount they've had.

Equally, having lots of experiences doesn't make you a genius. President Bush had a whole load of experiences.

But when you get relationship advice that consists of "Girls are yucky", then you know it's probably not the best. :)
 

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No, it just makes you less likely to have particularly deep opinions. I wouldn't trust 10 year olds to vote, because then they'd vote for whoever offered the most cake to them or something.
 

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There are smart 10 year-olds, and there are idiot 10 year-olds. Thinking that all kids fall into the latter group is ageist.