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thiosk

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10 year olds shouldn't be on the internet in the first place.

This is a horrible place full of bear-equivalents.

Once you see something involving an integer number of girls and cups, it cannot be unseen, and no 10 year old is mentally prepared for the horrors.
 

XHolySmokesX

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if its a logical opinion that makes sence then its as valid as any other opinion regardless of age.

however if it's a stupid opinion, that makes no sence where the writer has obviously not thought about what they are talking about to any meaningful extent, then i reserve the right to blame their stupidity on their age, which is a perdudice i have learnt from my experience of stupid, immature, children that are nothing but a annoying little prat to everyone (cough, online gaming, cough)

Does that make me a bit of a dick, yeah sure it does, but the kids have got to learn to have a think before they have an opinion, and being a dick to them is more than likely going to make them think twice before being stupid again.
 

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StarStruckStrumpets said:
I don't mean to doubt your parenting abilities, but I take issue with that last comment a great deal. Fair enough, I can understand 10 year olds needing to be put in place. They nag for things, and need to be shown certain values, whether it be money or whatever.

I just need to clear this up. Are you saying your stepdaughter is never right, or that she can never win? Because I can understand the latter.
Of course she's sometimes right but i'm not going to admit that to her.

Not yet anyway.

Maybe on my death bed i'll admit that sometimes she had me beat and I used long words that made absolutely no sense and prattled on about various other things that had nothing to do with the debate in hand to make it look like I know what I was talking about.

She is in University studying criminal psychology and forensics, i'm an ex Para.

She uses her brain, I shot at things at got involved in bar fights in lots of nice countries.

While I am a well travelled intelligent guy life wise, academically i'm lacking.

The comments in my post were aimed at humour, I love my kids and would never treat them like they were numpty's.

Quite the opposite, I want my kids to do far better than I did. Granted I had an amazing time in the army and I know have an easy job working accounts from home but i've had to drag myself through hell to get here.
 

Jodah

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Depends on the necessity of experience for that opinion. That being said, if you don't tell anyone your age it doesn't matter. That is the gift and curse of the internet.

Proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation are more likely to impact the value of your opinion than age. I mean that within reason, of course. I am by no means a grammar nazi but if every word is misspelled or the entire post is written in leet speak your opinion automatically becomes worthless. If you won't put some effort in to typing your post (especially with all the spell checks that are built into browsers now) I will not put the effort into reading it. But here I go rambling.
 

StarStruckStrumpets

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Rawne1980 said:
StarStruckStrumpets said:
I don't mean to doubt your parenting abilities, but I take issue with that last comment a great deal. Fair enough, I can understand 10 year olds needing to be put in place. They nag for things, and need to be shown certain values, whether it be money or whatever.

I just need to clear this up. Are you saying your stepdaughter is never right, or that she can never win? Because I can understand the latter.
Of course she's sometimes right but i'm not going to admit that to her.

Not yet anyway.

Maybe on my death bed i'll admit that sometimes she had me beat and I used long words that made absolutely no sense and prattled on about various other things that had nothing to do with the debate in hand to make it look like I know what I was talking about.

She is in University studying criminal psychology and forensics, i'm an ex Para.

She uses her brain, I shot at things at got involved in bar fights in lots of nice countries.

While I am a well travelled intelligent guy life wise, academically i'm lacking.

The comments in my post were aimed at humour, I love my kids and would never treat them like they were numpty's.

Quite the opposite, I want my kids to do far better than I did. Granted I had an amazing time in the army and I know have an easy job working accounts from home but i've had to drag myself through hell to get here.
Ah, I understand now.

The only reason I asked was that, being a 15 year old, I've had situations like this myself with my parents, and (not saying you're like this, in fact you seem the opposite having read your reply), but I've met people that disregard anything their kids say simply because they're kids and aren't in a position to make a claim otherwise.

I've had serious arguments with my Mum where I've been absolutely attacked by her verbally for calling her out on her doing something or saying something to me unfairly, then she's come up to me an hour or so later admitting that I was in the right. My Dad has a similar attitude to you, he wants me to go far too. He used to treat me like I was an idiot because I was younger than him, but a year or so back I totally stood up for myself and since he's treated me as something a little less than an equal, which I greatly appreciate.

I'm glad you were just having a joke with your post, because I was hopping into defense mode. It's nice to see caring parents around the place, y'know? :)
 

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It really depends on what they're talking about.
I'm not going to take advice on equity investments from a 10 year old.
 

Flailing Escapist

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Well lets see;
I'll take the opinion of someone who has graduated highschool over someone who's never been there.
The opinion of someone who has a masters in engineering over someone who doesn't.
And a 10 year old's opinion over say, a 4 year olds,
or buttered toast.
 

ntw3001

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If you mean 'do the words mean something different if the speaker in ten', then no, age isn't important. If you mean 'is a ten year old unlikely to say words that mean something valuable', then yes it is. Young children are unlikely to choose to make arguments that are correct. If you think you were able to hold your own in a debate at ten, it's probably because you're still too young to realise you weren't.
 

EeveeElectro

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It annoys me that so many people dismiss kids because of their age. Even me, who's 19 get "you don't know what you're talking about, shut up" from my older sister who left school at 14 with no GCSE's...
Although I haven't met any ten year olds who can have a full on debate with me, unless it's about who's better out of JLS and McFly because at that age you don't and shouldn't care about the world events and debating until you get older, just enjoy your childhood while you can.

As for a little story, my niece is 8; I picked her up from school one day and she had drawn me a picture of Humpty Dumpty, but she'd drawn Humpty as a girl.
I said, "You do know Humpty is a boy?" she replied, "it doesn't say in the poem that Humpty is a boy, so I drew her as a girl."
I was stunned, it was something I never picked up on in the past. Not all kids are stupid who don't deserve an opinion like a lot of people would have you believe.
 

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It wouldn't make a difference...if it was a 10 year old debating with another 10 year old. However 10 year olds are in no way comparable to adults, therefore no, their opinion wouldn't be valid in my opinion. Heck, I won't even listen to most teenagers :D
 

MoD1212

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well while there is nothing stopping a ten year old from making a intelligent comment, however there are certain gaming related topics that will limit a ten year old ablity to say anything relevent, like dicussing classic games and the impact they've had on more modern game for example and other similar topics.

now again there nothing stopping a ten year old from playin classic and etc but it would be very rare.
 
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I view EVERYONE with "Idiot until proven otherwise" mentality, so it doesn't make much difference to me. If you can prove that you are smart and capable of mature conversation, then your opinion is just as valid as a 30 year old who does the same.

I would also like to say that the first response is VERY true. In the age of internet arguing, people will cling to anything they can to win an argument and will jump at the chance to discredit people by pointing out age.
 

Unesh52

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*ignoring most of the other comments*

In general, each successive generation grows up in a different environment than the previous, and this is especially true today, where communications and information technology are rapidly evolving the way we learn about the world around us. Of course, not every new opinion is right, but new and different information will likely produce different opinions. While it is a fairly accurate assessment to say that very young people are prone to making bad arguments based on specious reasoning and faulty understandings of how the world works, to say that they are always wrong is just flatly incorrect.

When adults encounter new opinions from young people, it's important that they appraise the information for what it's worth, and not dismiss it out of hand because it's the opinion of a child, even if this new opinion contradicts their own or has unsavory implications. Not only is this properly open minded and intellectually responsible, but it's what's good for the kid. Devaluing the opinion of young people is murder on their self respect, and can lead them to complacency and codependency, or perhaps worse, arrogant defiance. Nothing makes uncritical thinkers faster than letting kids think their opinions are worthless regardless.
 

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EeveeElectro said:
As for a little story, my niece is 8; I picked her up from school one day and she had drawn me a picture of Humpty Dumpty, but she'd drawn Humpty as a girl.
I said, "You do know Humpty is a boy?" she replied, "it doesn't say in the poem that Humpty is a boy, so I drew her as a girl."
I was stunned, it was something I never picked up on in the past. Not all kids are stupid who don't deserve an opinion like a lot of people would have you believe.
In the riddle's (for Humpty-Dumpty's origins are as a riddle) original 19th-century form, Humpty-Dumpty was explicitly referred to as a "he" ("Threescore men and threescore more/cannot place Humpty Dumpty as he was before"), which is likely the source of the notion that Humpty-Dumpty is male.

However, your niece is correct that the modern version does not include an indication of gender, and there is in fact no particular aspect of Humpty-Dumpty-ness that requires Humpty to be male.
 

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retyopy said:
Children have a certain knack for being very candid about their opinions, and can ignore certain things like connotations or bias when they look at things. Things like that come with age and experience, which at that point they don't have. So yes, I think children can provide refreshing views on things. Simpler views, and at times shortsighted ones, but we as adults have a habit of staring too closely at what is directly in front of us to see the big picture. Children don't have that problem as much.

So I guess my opinion on this is perhaps their opinions are not of value to us, but their thought patterns and how they mentally approach problems can be very insightful.
 

Mordwyl

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In general a prepubescent child would have accrued far less wisdom than someone more mature like people in their twenties and thirties, which still fit in their generation gap.
 

Corporal Yakob

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Or let's say, hypothetically, that I was. Does that lessen the value of my opinion? Does that make my part in a discussion less worthwhile?

Let me explain. For reasons that have gradually been lost to mankind, I was thinking about age. This eventaully led to me thinking about the value of a ten year olds opinion, which eventaully led to this discussion: Does age lessen the value of opinions/the worth of their part in an argument or discussion? And I'm not talking about teenagers. I'm talking about 10-12 year olds, those idiotic little twerps that continue to call me a gay nazi ****** who sleeps with his dog(there beinng several problems with that statement, one that gay people were persecuted by the nazis, and two that I don't have a dog).

And you might say, 'It doesn't, but no ten year olds are going to put together a valid argument.' That is wrong. I have spoken to ten year olds that could hold their own in a debate with their parents. I was a ten year old like that. But apparently, age is the factor that decides how much your opinion is worth, and age can totally be used against you as an insult.

And no, I'm not 10. How could you think that? I'm 9! (By the way, that was me making a funny. So don't murder me. I was joking.)
There were gay Nazis :p

Logically a ten year old's opinion holds just as much weight as anyone elses, but I'll be damned if I let some punk kid outsmart me in a argument!
 

Twilight_guy

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Attacking someone based on something unrelated to an argument is an Ad hominem. If the person's age is not an important factor in the discussion then no matter what age he or she is, he or she can provide a valid argument. Unfortunately most people oft he age of 10 don't usually provide valid arguments.
 

Biodeamon

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no but you might be exposed to some laungage/content that a ten year old should be hearing.

also escapist is strict on people who lie about their age (unlike the army, lol XD).
my brother lied about his age and he was only 12 and was suspeneded for a considerable amount of time.

so if you are ten, then i'd suggest you'd keep a low profile lest you suffer the wrath of the moderators.