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Canadamus Prime

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Not at all. You'll find the same hypocrisy applies to just about every minority that exists on the planet.
Also this guy makes a good point on the issue:
Skip to about 1:00. the author doesn't seem to understand the concept of moderation when it comes to intros. And also, don't comment about how he's ripping off Yahtzee, I'm well aware of that.
 

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Karthesios said:
I've never understood the point of being proud of your phenotype. It's like being proud that the sky is blue. Neither one is something you have any control over.
I agree absolutely. Shouting out that you're proud of that always seems a bit racist, despite your race/religion, etc.
 

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Oh yeah. That totally makes up for it. The fuck was I thinking?
Don't forget their crappy school system that we pay for!

In the U.S. it doesn't make any sense because "white people" as a cultural group dates back only a few decades. Before that it was broken down by European country with some treated better than others.
 

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Well its because we are the majority in a lot of places and therefore its easy for people to accuse us of being against the minorities. Oh well.

On a related note,
Men in general have the same problem.

Feminists are widely accepted, but anyone who puts forward male priorities is pronounced a sexist bastard.
 

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katsumoto03 said:
shiig said:
katsumoto03 said:
I love how apologetic us white people are for all of the atrocities that people have commited against black people, yet forget that America was founded on the genocide of the Native Americans.
Except for the fact that Native Americans are given their own little countries on American soil, with their own law enforcement agencies, and are the only group genuinely allowed to place a casino anywhere in America. Just saying.
Oh yeah. That totally makes up for it. The fuck was I thinking?
I'm not saying it makes up for it, I'm saying that that's a part of their compensation. There's plenty more, but I mean, fortunes have been made on such things.
 

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I think the major problem with phrases meant to display pride in being white (White power for example) got pinched by groups like the klan. phrases that were meant to display pride in your own race became more about giving the fingers to people with a different skin tone.

The meaning of white pride has been perverted to the point that even white people think it's wrong. It's like the swastika, sure it might have been a religious symbol for centuries but 1st thing anyone thinks when they see one is 'Nazi'.
 

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of course,
i'm sure most people on the escapist have already brought this to mind, and thought the same as you,
but you might be the first person to start a thread about it, so hats off to you,
 

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katsumoto03 said:
shiig said:
katsumoto03 said:
I love how apologetic us white people are for all of the atrocities that people have commited against black people, yet forget that America was founded on the genocide of the Native Americans.
Except for the fact that Native Americans are given their own little countries on American soil, with their own law enforcement agencies, and are the only group genuinely allowed to place a casino anywhere in America. Just saying.
Oh yeah. That totally makes up for it. The fuck was I thinking?
What happened happened and it was horrible....but for how long do white folks have to bear the blame for it? How many generations? How long will it take?

When will we stop making movies like Avatar?

Oh but they if we had ourselves a white genocide...whoohoo! Down with the man!

Would that be ok?
 

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shiig said:
katsumoto03 said:
shiig said:
katsumoto03 said:
I love how apologetic us white people are for all of the atrocities that people have commited against black people, yet forget that America was founded on the genocide of the Native Americans.
Except for the fact that Native Americans are given their own little countries on American soil, with their own law enforcement agencies, and are the only group genuinely allowed to place a casino anywhere in America. Just saying.
Oh yeah. That totally makes up for it. The fuck was I thinking?
I'm not saying it makes up for it, I'm saying that that's a part of their compensation. There's plenty more, but I mean, fortunes have been made on such things.
The fortunes of a few doesn't even scratch the surface of the deaths of so many.
 

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I wouldn't look to favourably on anyone claiming to be proud of their race, sex or nationality. Just seems like very odd things to be proud of.
 

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Right... I'll try to be brief. Being proud to be your race is stupid and inherently racist. Why? Because your race is a passive trait and pride in this trait can only be justified through racism, as you would be putting your race ahead of other people's races. The reason why other races get away with it is because they're not talking about their race, they're actually talking about their culture, they just use race as a metaphor for the shared culture.

So if someone stands up and says "I'm proud to be Indian" they're referring to their Indian culture as being a worthy one and not necessarily their brown skin. The reason people say that their proud of their race/culture is because white people have gone out of their way to make every non-white race seem worthless and less than white for a very long time, so if they don't stand up for their race no one else will. Saying "I'm proud" is a rejection of the negativity associated with not being white. This is not a problem faced by white people.

So in order to solve your problem, say that you're proud to be Danish, not proud to be white (as this is stupid). Be proud of what you've done with your life and the things you've achieved, the people you've brought joy to.
 

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of course you are right in saying that there are two types of ethnic racism
negative and positive

negative racism: is the usual kind hating someone mostly based on xenophobia or cultural conflicts.

positive racism: is the kind you get when nobody really perceives negative racism as such
possibly when you get a job based on your ethnic group and your ethnic group is a minority
then most will most likely not see it as such if they don't think about it.

EDIT: If you ask me being proud for something you have not done like just say being part of an ethnic group or being born in ones mother country is racist in it self... since you essencially just think you are better than most others also there is no point in it
 

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katsumoto03 said:
shiig said:
katsumoto03 said:
shiig said:
katsumoto03 said:
I love how apologetic us white people are for all of the atrocities that people have commited against black people, yet forget that America was founded on the genocide of the Native Americans.
Except for the fact that Native Americans are given their own little countries on American soil, with their own law enforcement agencies, and are the only group genuinely allowed to place a casino anywhere in America. Just saying.
Oh yeah. That totally makes up for it. The fuck was I thinking?
I'm not saying it makes up for it, I'm saying that that's a part of their compensation. There's plenty more, but I mean, fortunes have been made on such things.
The fortunes of a few doesn't even scratch the surface of the deaths of so many.
So what do you want? Should we all up and leave North America?

Have ourselves a white genocide?

What...what do you want to happen..what would make it right?

(and yes I know this is my first 2 posts but I just had to reply to this thread...this kind of attitude infuriates me...it's a blame with no solutions...no answers...just blame blame blame...forever)
 

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There's no reason to say "I'm proud to be white" beyond making threads like this, so that other people can then play the poor white man card. The whole reason people say "I'm proud to be black" or "I'm proud to be gay" is to encourage others that the racism and homophobia they encounter doesn't mean there's anything wrong with who they are.

Very few white people need that, especially Americans and Brits.
 

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Boneasse said:
If an African-American stands up in a crowded room, full of strangers, with a fist in the air and says "I'm black, and I'm proud", white people will nod their heads and clap their hands politely, like he/she is saying the most inspiring thing in the world. But if a white man does exactly the same (not that I believe any sane white man has ever done so) people will immediately think back to World War II.
In simple terms. You're not in a culture that's spent several centuries asserting that being white makes you less of a human than other people. You should look into "dominant privilege", it's highly pertinent to this discussion.

Remember, children: just because you don't see something, it doesn't mean it's not there - and it certainly doesn't mean that the people affected by it are just being silly.
 

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Ayane788 said:
katsumoto03 said:
shiig said:
katsumoto03 said:
shiig said:
katsumoto03 said:
I love how apologetic us white people are for all of the atrocities that people have commited against black people, yet forget that America was founded on the genocide of the Native Americans.
Except for the fact that Native Americans are given their own little countries on American soil, with their own law enforcement agencies, and are the only group genuinely allowed to place a casino anywhere in America. Just saying.
Oh yeah. That totally makes up for it. The fuck was I thinking?
I'm not saying it makes up for it, I'm saying that that's a part of their compensation. There's plenty more, but I mean, fortunes have been made on such things.
The fortunes of a few doesn't even scratch the surface of the deaths of so many.
So what do you want? Should we all up and leave North America?

Have ourselves a white genocide?

What...what do you want to happen..what would make it right?
Technically, yes. We should leave North America, from a moral standpoint.
 

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El Poncho said:
I find being proud of my race slightly silly since...well it means nothing to me.
I'd rather be proud of who I am than my race. Yes I'm white. Yes my family came to Canada on both sides as a result of WWI. Yes, I have German blood in my veins but that doesn't mean I identify myself as a German. Where my bloodline originally comes from, I do not know. It is very likely that somewhere down the family tree there were acts that I would find deplorable were committed. The thing is... all those things are deep in the past and I've left them there.

Yes, we need to learn from the past to move forward but getting caught up in racial conflicts from a long time ago doesn't seem particularly smart to me.

So I'm proud of my families recent past. But when it comes to race, I claim no superiority or inferiority. In fact, I don't even think about it much at all. I just wish more people would do the same. I'm not denying there are problems, serious problems caused by race issues recently and those still need to be dealt with. I'm just saying that we need to stop bringing up issues from many generations ago and putting that on the table.
 

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shiig said:
katsumoto03 said:
I love how apologetic us white people are for all of the atrocities that people have commited against black people, yet forget that America was founded on the genocide of the Native Americans.
Except for the fact that Native Americans are given their own little countries on American soil, with their own law enforcement agencies, and are the only group genuinely allowed to place a casino anywhere in America. Just saying.
Right... did you know that 90% of the native americans living in America were killed by famine and small pox? Also I doubt that you're aware of this but native american reservations, where they have their own law and such, are the poorest parts of america, comparable to developing nations.
 

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"Pride" in who you are seems to be looked down apon negatively in recent years, particularly in more liberal circles. To take an aspect of yourself that isn't universal and say you are proud to be it, seems to show the world you think you are "better" than others because of that aspect which is simply not true.

As you say though, it only really seems to apply to straight caucasians. That could be because of our past, lets face it we haven't been the most accepting of folks. At one point, not all that long ago, it was generally believed that to be white and straight was the best way to be and as a result we're seeing a backlash now where to feel pride in who we are means we should feel guilty.

I can see the later replies to this thread already stating "taking pride in skin colour, your country of birth etc is retarded and hopefully we as a species will move past this". Then in another thread they will actively support a gay pride march or black history month. Neither of those things I have a problem with by the way, as long as the ability to rise up and say "this is who I am" is universal. Otherwise, events which promote "minorities" in the western world do nothing but create divisions between themselves and the majority whom they desire to be equal with.

Pride is something to be celebrated, it's something we as humans cannot escape. The problem lies in that not everyone is proud for the same reason. The Royal Wedding was the most recent example of good pride and the few occassions I have seen that have been similar made me incredibly proud to be English. Regardless of Nationality, creed, sexuality, millions of people came together to celebrate our heritage and a focal point of British culture. Even with the "why should I care it's a dead institution" people bitching in the wings, it was still a beautiful day because it allowed everyone to come together and celebrate without restricting the celebrations to a specific group.

How many Americans here will be doing nothing or don't give two shits about July 4th? Or Thanksgiving? Those are days for all Americans, wherever their origins to celebrate and no one is left out. These are surely more good examples of how people can come together and show unity the right way?

Everyone deserves the right to celebrate who they are, where they are from, without being a dick about it to those outside of that group. I think that is where alot of "pro-white" groups fail, and "pro-black", "pro-islam" and most other pro-whatevers for that matter. How about having a pride day but making it more a community thing? The focal point could be islam, black history/culture, gay pride, white pride, but get the whole community included? Everyone could learn about each other that way without a feeling of "we're different and we want to shout about it" and instead create a feeling of "yeah we're different, but we want to share and celebrate that with everyone and when you have your day we'll come along to that too, parties all round!"

Ok, I've rambled enough and probably made little sense so I'll stop.
 

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katsumoto03 said:
I love how apologetic us white people are for all of the atrocities that people have commited against black people, yet forget that America was founded on the genocide of the Native Americans.


OT: Totally agree. Why should I give you sympathy because my dead ancestors did something to your dead ancestors? It can't be changed by anything, and it's pointless to care about the past to the point where it impacts the present.