im really hating TF2
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A good spy is always at a disadvantage (unless you use the enforcer and just play pistol spy, but that's a different story) because as soon as they lose the element of surprise they are one of the easiest classes to kill. Most of their tactics require coordinating with a teammate, and the spy's life is usually forfeit during the process, but because spies exist the game has no 100% effective tactic for offense or defense.Anoni Mus said:I play on Portuguese servers, usualy LP legião Portuguesa. Dunno if they are any good or not.
Some times I play a server where it's always Orange map, with Sniper I kick ass there, I get 1st place or almost (since people who are there first are harder to catch up).
Maybe I'm a naturalWhich would be weird since I'm good at cod, but other FPS I usualy suck, CS for example I'm really noob.
By the way I got a question for Spy pro's and enginner. A good spy is at disavantage against a good Engineer do you agree? A good engineer cover himself an make impossible for the spy to kill him, and if he goes for the sentry the engineer can kill him fast enough and reconstruct the sentry before it destroys.
Never had any of those problems, except possibly the difficulty to connect to any games. And lately Ive been experiencing a lot of lag.
Or maybe people just go easy on me, since I'm usually a Medic. Strangely, I'm not the immediate target for most players who just go for the Heavy Im working with.
Or maybe people just go easy on me, since I'm usually a Medic. Strangely, I'm not the immediate target for most players who just go for the Heavy Im working with.
Don't worry baby, keep playing at it, it'll get better!
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Add me if you want to play, I'm very good at Combat Engineer and Heavy.
Yeah, about your point OP, Spy is really a frustrating class, whether you're fighting one or being one. Luck plays a heavy factor in being a spy since you have to look out for RANDOM W+M1 PYROS! GAH! They are annoying.
Other than that, it might just be your comp, as I don't generally have problems playing TF2
Other than that, it might just be your comp, as I don't generally have problems playing TF2
I don't know what your talking about, im a newcomer to the game too and i started as heavy and was pwning right away...
Yes i understand the Spy issue i have same things happening to me too, if there is a Spy hacker i change server without a second thought.
I get bullied by Snipers as Heavy and then i change Pyro, maaaan revenge is sweet, when you play Pyro, Snipers can't touch you and you will always burn those dirty bastards alive.
Demoman has too much health and Soldiers are overused and played by hackers.
Engineer is imo most important class and if played right he can be the difference between win or fail.
Yes i understand the Spy issue i have same things happening to me too, if there is a Spy hacker i change server without a second thought.
I get bullied by Snipers as Heavy and then i change Pyro, maaaan revenge is sweet, when you play Pyro, Snipers can't touch you and you will always burn those dirty bastards alive.
Demoman has too much health and Soldiers are overused and played by hackers.
Engineer is imo most important class and if played right he can be the difference between win or fail.
I feel your frustration, OP. As someone else who's recently started it (my girlfriend began playing and I decided to follow once it went free since. Turns out I actually enjoy online FPS despite what I've told myself all my life.) here's what I've gleaned:
1: Yeah, you're gonna loose. ALOT. Personally I go through spurts. I'll have a night where the team and me are just ON. and we just steamroll through the opposition. Or we'll still be winning, but it'll be a fight and we'll all be grinning through every second of it. Or some nights...well, some nights I just can't catch a break. Spies and Snipers everywhere. It just seems to happen.
2: the Ctrl button is your friend. Cover is your friend. ESPECIALLY if you play as a Medic. I can't tell you how many times I've been on Nucleus, and me and a Heavy have been trying to capture the control point and the Heavy just rains bullets on people as I'm crouched behind one of the walls, cut off from most people aside from Snipers, and heal him frantically and pray for my Ubercharge meter to pop to full. Curiously, those moments always tend to end up with us capturing unless someone is brave enough to come out and kill us close-range. Or more specifically me. Crouching and cover in general is invaluable. It's all over the place, and you can use it to your advantage.
3: Everyone dies. Alot. When I die, I usually take a moment to hit the change class button. I can see who my side has in terms of classes. I can see if we've got a Medic or not, I can see if we've got Pyros or Spies or Engineers. Then I combine that with what I've been observing on the battlefield. Snipers pegging everyone but we have one Spy? I respawn as Spy and pull out the ol' Ambassador and start handing those Snipers some of their own medicine. No Medics on the team but alot of Heavies? I roll a Medic and promptly find someone big and vaguely russian with a big gun to follow around. I go where I'm needed and do what's needed if I can. Noone has yelled at me yet for it.
4: If you feel like items, or lack thereof, are an issue, the Starter Packs in the Mann Co. Store are GREAT for that sort of thing. Especially if you try out every class and you focus on finding which one clicks with you and then buy their starter pack. (of course depending on your luck and how long it takes you might have advanced items for that class anyway!) The way I figure it: They're a buck, it's not a bad deal, and I like the game. So if me dropping a buck or two for a weapon pack for Medic or Sniper helps keep the servers and updates rolling, I'm fine with that.
5: HAVE FUN. Bottom line. Worst thing you can do for TF2 is go into it with the 'I don't have fun unless I'm winning.' mentality. I've had some pretty epic deaths, and some pretty hilarious losses. There's really no official server rankings or anything that I know of, so it's not like some games where you're under constant pressure to perform better and a loss can actually affect your gaming experience. Losses are just losses. You still get items, you still get to play. If some jackasses want to boot you off their server because they think you suck? Let 'em. Plenty more out there to enjoy. Heck, as I recall the Escapist has a TF2 server.
Hopefully that helps. I know it doesn't seem like much, but I probably don't have more than 20 hours or so in and I've had a blast. Nerfnow is correct: it DOES get better.
1: Yeah, you're gonna loose. ALOT. Personally I go through spurts. I'll have a night where the team and me are just ON. and we just steamroll through the opposition. Or we'll still be winning, but it'll be a fight and we'll all be grinning through every second of it. Or some nights...well, some nights I just can't catch a break. Spies and Snipers everywhere. It just seems to happen.
2: the Ctrl button is your friend. Cover is your friend. ESPECIALLY if you play as a Medic. I can't tell you how many times I've been on Nucleus, and me and a Heavy have been trying to capture the control point and the Heavy just rains bullets on people as I'm crouched behind one of the walls, cut off from most people aside from Snipers, and heal him frantically and pray for my Ubercharge meter to pop to full. Curiously, those moments always tend to end up with us capturing unless someone is brave enough to come out and kill us close-range. Or more specifically me. Crouching and cover in general is invaluable. It's all over the place, and you can use it to your advantage.
3: Everyone dies. Alot. When I die, I usually take a moment to hit the change class button. I can see who my side has in terms of classes. I can see if we've got a Medic or not, I can see if we've got Pyros or Spies or Engineers. Then I combine that with what I've been observing on the battlefield. Snipers pegging everyone but we have one Spy? I respawn as Spy and pull out the ol' Ambassador and start handing those Snipers some of their own medicine. No Medics on the team but alot of Heavies? I roll a Medic and promptly find someone big and vaguely russian with a big gun to follow around. I go where I'm needed and do what's needed if I can. Noone has yelled at me yet for it.
4: If you feel like items, or lack thereof, are an issue, the Starter Packs in the Mann Co. Store are GREAT for that sort of thing. Especially if you try out every class and you focus on finding which one clicks with you and then buy their starter pack. (of course depending on your luck and how long it takes you might have advanced items for that class anyway!) The way I figure it: They're a buck, it's not a bad deal, and I like the game. So if me dropping a buck or two for a weapon pack for Medic or Sniper helps keep the servers and updates rolling, I'm fine with that.
5: HAVE FUN. Bottom line. Worst thing you can do for TF2 is go into it with the 'I don't have fun unless I'm winning.' mentality. I've had some pretty epic deaths, and some pretty hilarious losses. There's really no official server rankings or anything that I know of, so it's not like some games where you're under constant pressure to perform better and a loss can actually affect your gaming experience. Losses are just losses. You still get items, you still get to play. If some jackasses want to boot you off their server because they think you suck? Let 'em. Plenty more out there to enjoy. Heck, as I recall the Escapist has a TF2 server.
Hopefully that helps. I know it doesn't seem like much, but I probably don't have more than 20 hours or so in and I've had a blast. Nerfnow is correct: it DOES get better.
Or, if your honestly that bad at the game just go W+M1 Pyro, all teh players use it when they're new. But in all serious, because this is srs bznz just play the game more and measure out what your team has, EX. If you have 1-2 spies on your team, DONT go spy, pretty simple.