I'm utterly sick of Game of Thrones

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Even if it's just in the most basic way possible, the series can trigger a lot of emotions. That's not something you find in just any random TV series.
You find that in most dramas...
The typical drama doesn't have many stakes beyond the characters' personal lives though. In Game of Thrones death is not just a personal loss, it's something that affects the course of history. Small world versus big world. (And that big world happens to feature epic shit like dragons, huge battles and ice zombies - good luck finding all that somewhere else.)
The Tudors? Rome? Wolf Hall? (Minus the fantasy)
 

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dscross said:
NPC009 said:
dscross said:
NPC009 said:
Even if it's just in the most basic way possible, the series can trigger a lot of emotions. That's not something you find in just any random TV series.
You find that in most dramas...
The typical drama doesn't have many stakes beyond the characters' personal lives though. In Game of Thrones death is not just a personal loss, it's something that affects the course of history. Small world versus big world. (And that big world happens to feature epic shit like dragons, huge battles and ice zombies - good luck finding all that somewhere else.)
The Tudors? Rome? Wolf Hall? (Minus the fantasy)
Kind of proving my point there by listing two series that aired nearly a decade ago, and one miniseries from 2015.
 

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I watched the first season. As a huge fan of the books, I saw nothing I didn't already know. I stopped watching the show. Why bother, I already know what's going to happen. And now, well... I'm just waiting for the next book. I don't care at all for the tv show. Maybe after the book series ends I'll skim the end of the tv series to see what they did with it.

I much prefer TV series adaptations to tell their own stories. Like the short lived Dresden Files or The Legend of the Seeker. At least we see something new.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Never watched a single episode, for the simple reason I didn't like the names of the characters. They sounded too... hack-y.
Yeah, I always felt like he was trying to emulate some of area of mythology he didn't really understand.
 

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Fiz_The_Toaster said:
So, sorry, why don't you like it again?

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Snark aside, so, you don't like it. Fine, that's cool. You're allowed to not like things, and most of the stuff that you've listed is subjective, but those are your reasons. I like the show, and I think it's great. Well, mostly. Pacing can be weird, but not every piece of work is going to be flawless.

GoT is big right now, and you're just going to have to deal with the fan reactions until the show is completely over, sadly. I know I know, fandoms.

I mean, I can't stand Harry Potter, and everyone I know loves that series to bits. However, I zone out when they talk about it, and I just ignore the memes, movies, books, and whatever else is going on at the time.

It's really not that hard to ignore it.
I didn't like Harry Potter either but I've found that much easier to avoid. I guess there is probably not too long left before they end it though and then people will stop going on about it.
 

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dscross said:
Yeah, I always felt like he was trying to emulate some of area of mythology he didn't really understand.
With the naming conventions? The naming conventions primarily do not derive from mythology, so that's an odd suggestion.
 

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dscross said:
Fiz_The_Toaster said:
So, sorry, why don't you like it again?

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Snark aside, so, you don't like it. Fine, that's cool. You're allowed to not like things, and most of the stuff that you've listed is subjective, but those are your reasons. I like the show, and I think it's great. Well, mostly. Pacing can be weird, but not every piece of work is going to be flawless.

GoT is big right now, and you're just going to have to deal with the fan reactions until the show is completely over, sadly. I know I know, fandoms.

I mean, I can't stand Harry Potter, and everyone I know loves that series to bits. However, I zone out when they talk about it, and I just ignore the memes, movies, books, and whatever else is going on at the time.

It's really not that hard to ignore it.
I didn't like Harry Potter either but I've found that much easier to avoid. I guess there is probably not too long left before they end it though and then people will stop going on about it.
I highly doubt that.

I have a friend that's a hardcore Harry Potter fan and I don't see it going away anytime soon. I mean, there's already a spin-off movie series now, and there's Harry Potter Land. I wouldn't be surprised if Legos put out a game or animated movie sometime in the future.

But one can dream.
 

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Yeah, I always felt like he was trying to emulate some of area of mythology he didn't really understand.
With the naming conventions? The naming conventions primarily do not derive from mythology, so that's an odd suggestion.
I should have said mythology and history. He's said in interviews that he 'took some medieval names and tweaked them'. Between the baby name books, the waves of fictional migrations, and the European historical underpinnings, I admit his characters' names have a lot of context. But that doesn't necessarily show a good understanding of the subject matter. It's fantasy, and this is a subjective thought. However, It just doesn't work for me in the same way other fantasy names do in other literature. It feels fake to me - But it's just a feeling so it's difficult for me to justify it in the same way I have with my other points.
 

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Chewster said:
I enjoy the show but to paraphrase someone I read on Twitter, I'm also very ready for it to be over.

Previous seasons have been somewhat all over the place but so far this one has been the most consistently...I don't know, grim and yet somehow really dull? I mean, Euron has to be one of the worst antagonists this show has ever given us. He looks and acts like he should be running a Goddamn hooligan firm somewhere in east London. And that bit with Cersei
poisoning Ellaria Sand's kid and giving us yet another long-winded speech about revenge etc.
made me uncomfortable and not in a particularly good way. We get it. Cersei is really horrible. Change the fucking record.

Anyway, I'll watch to the end because I've already invested this much time but I never really felt as though the show quite reached the same levels as other shows like The Wire or The Sopranos or Mad Men or even newer stuff like the latest Black Mirror episodes. It is, at times, well acted, interesting and is very well produced but ultimately fluff, IMHO.
The sad thing is, if you read some GOAT shows lists online it tops those ones you mentioned. I love all those programmes you mentioned - although I've only just started the wire - and it shocks me sometimes that GoT could be put on the same level of greatness as them. I'd also put shows like Six Feet Under, Twin Peaks, Deadwood The Tudors and Teachers much higher than GoT. I haven't watched any Black Mirror. Would you go as far as to put it on the same level as the shows you mentioned?
 

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Level 7 Dragon said:
Take it you aren't a twin peaks fan. I haven't actually seen the new series yet - I was referring to the original. I can't comment on the new episodes yet.