Immorally making $5,000

[Karhukonna]

Sell it and surprise your friend with five grand. Maybe he will split it with you after such a pleasant surprise.

 

[Lonewolfm16]

Tell him its really valuable. If he is a good friend, he will give you a chunk of the profit, for bringing its existence to his attention.

 

[MrDumpkins]

I'd say it's pretty far fetched that he has a NM copy of an alpha or beta lotus. There were no card sleeves back in the day and I'm sure that if he actually played with the cards there would be some damage. You'd be looking closer to 2-3 grand, as that's what they go for on ebay. Star City can sell at those prices because they are reputable and you can be damn sure it's not a fake.

In fact, you might not even be able to sell it unless you get it graded, fake power goes around quite often and the people in the market for beta or alpha will definitely be looking for proof of it being real.

Also, tell your friend, tell him the truth, and offer to go through the motions to get the most out of it, and split the profits somehow. That way you both win, if you just steal it, you'll never be able to live it down (if you're a decent person).

 

[Reeve]

If it was me, I'd sell it. I don't see why it matters if he never knows about it esp. when he gave you the cards. Isn't it his responsibility to understand what it is he's giving away? That's not your problem.

Consider all the things you could do with that money...such as donating to charity...or something...

 

[Abomination]

Sell, give him half as an unexpected gift or 'thank you' for letting you sell the cards.

If he was going to give them to you anyway you're under no moral obligation to give him any of the proceeds. He donated the cards to you and you were the one who sold them. He's lucky to get half. He's lucky to get anything.

 

[Sacman]

What he doesn;t know can;t hurt him... and if you feel bad, split it 50-50... but either way you should get something, if not all of it...<.<

 

[silentNate]

I'd tell him... his friendship and your conscience will thank you later.

 

[A Weakgeek]

You know, I wouldn't have an issue with either choice. You wouldnt be obligated to tell him, but it wouldnt be over the top either.

So, instead of thinking it out and taking responsibility for my actions

But a guy who would do this is a gigantic douche, hypothetically ofcourse.

 

[Agayek]

I'd definitely tell him. But then I'd also ask to split the proceeds when it sells, probably at like a 30/70 split in his favor, since he wouldn't have known about it if not for me.

 

[RoBi3.0]

Tell him. Taking it would be the same as stealing 5k.

 

[Darren716]

Tell him, he'll probably be really glad you told him and would probably give you a cut of the profit. Also if they do happen to find out afterwards that you indirectly stole $5000 from them they probably won't want to ever see you again.

 

[Treeinthewoods]

Integrity means doing the right thing even when no one is looking, even if it costs you. I guess if you don't care about integrity and totally need to help your family you could steal the card.

$5,000 could do a lot of good for his family also. If you steal it you are an asshole forever.

Plus if be ever finds out what do you think would happen? Be a good person.

 

[Slycne]

I don't know anything about Magic the Gathering, but that card is "+3 Mana". Why is it so expensive?

It's a deceptively powerful card. Typically, you're only allowed to add a single resources, land, to the board for producing mana. So normally you'd be able to play 1 mana spells, 2 mana spell and then 3 mana spells and so forth. Black Lotus lets you play a source, for free, that produces 3 mana of any color. This often lets you accelerate into a much more powerful spell than could normally be played that turn. This is then coupled with only being printed in very small numbers in some of the game's first sets.

OT: If your friend had sold you a box of old cards, unseen, then I think it would be more of a quandary. In that case they knew the risk to some degree that they might be valuable, but they decided that immediate cash was more important to them than taking the time to look through it. Otherwise I think you tell him, cause in that case you might as well rephrase the question to - "Would you stop being friends with someone for $5,000?"

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

I don't know anything about Magic the Gathering, but that card is "+3 Mana". Why is it so expensive?

Anyway, I'll be honest. If the card was word 100, 200, I'd probably take it with a clear conscience. But 5000, that's a lot of money... I wouldn't be able to just take it.

The asshole half of me, however, says you should take it, sell it and then go "oh my, I had no idea, what are we going to do with all this money?"

First off: It's incredible as a card. Gettin +3 mana on the first turn usually results in a First Turn kill with a crazy combo. That's why that stuff is only legal in "T1" or "Vintage" tournaments.

But the reason it's so expensive is, because it is THE CARD of MTG. The symbol of MTG since.. basically ever. That combined with the fact that MTG is now 20 years old and became an official thing for collectors.
Before that the Lotus was only worth 1-2 grand.

 

[JonnyHG]

I think telling him is the right thing to do. That being said, I don't believe that keeping it would be immoral. Stealing it would be one thing, but he willingly gave it to you. It would be his fault for not being aware of the value of the property he was giving away.

 

[Evil Smurf]

Give it to me? Yeah, do that.

 

[NathLines]

Weeeeeell... He probably wouldn't have found that out without you. Seriously, there's no money at all without you. You hold all the cards, so to speak.

Seriously though, I say you take it, sell it and split it in half. You didn't steal anything, he gave those cards to you. He obviously didn't care about them, so getting 2500 bucks out of the blue for nothing doesn't seem like a bad deal for any of you.

 

[Demgar]

I don't know anything about Magic the Gathering, but that card is "+3 Mana". Why is it so expensive?

Anyway, I'll be honest. If the card was word 100, 200, I'd probably take it with a clear conscience. But 5000, that's a lot of money... I wouldn't be able to just take it.

The asshole half of me, however, says you should take it, sell it and then go "oh my, I had no idea, what are we going to do with all this money?"

Law of supply and demand. So very few were printed, so there's a lack of supply that increases the price. Then, on top of that, in the many years since it was printed, how many were damaged or lost?

Amongst collectors, rarity is more valuable than usefulness.

OT: Tell him, OP. It's the right thing to do considering how much it's worth. I'd hate to be jipped by a friend like this.

That's only part of it. It's also a pretty OP card. Since you can only play one land per turn, 3 extra mana is very powerful in early game. Imagine you played a land, a lotus, and a mox(another discontinued and expensive card) on the first round. You could play a 5 mana card to your opponents 1 mana card. That probably means the game, purely on the strength of the draw.

 

[klaynexas3]

Is that seriously the only card that you found that's worth a damn? That's not to say it isn't a good card to sell, I'm saying your friend's brother has Alpha cards and that's the only one you can honestly say you're going to sell? If he has other Alphas in that pile, you can probably make something close to at least $10,000 if you played the dick and kept it for yourself. In other words, you'd have more money to spread around. In other words, dig deeper, give him some funds, and you should still be making at least 5 grand.

Get to digging!

 

[Marcus Kehoe]

sell it then later give him a large portion, if not half of the money. It's not gonna be easy selling it and you don't have to tell him how much it sold for.