- Jun 28, 2010
Really? This is still a thing? I could've sworn this stopped being a thing a year-ish ago when everyone grew up and started using the term "gaming enthusiast". This makes me sad.
Yeah, this. I've never heard of anyone using this definition of "casual gamer" before and certainly not in a critical context.Johnny Novgorod said:So according to this, "casual gamer" is just "gamer". What's so casual about not buying at launch or having dinner? I call it common sense. Stuff cheapens over time, and I get hungry. I can hold my horses (and my wallet) for a little bit, but that doesn't make me casual or hardcore, just A gamer.
Hey, I tried to get the "game (or gaming) enthusiast" title/term off the ground as well, apparently it didn't take. There are the hardcore ELITIST crowd (note the bold caps for emphasis) who use the term "casual" as an insult, as described in this column, who also feel that whatever game they play is exclusively theirs and not for anyone who doesn't play exactly as they do. Those people are the minority of the minority who tend to be most vocal and most vitriolic against the decidedly majority of us who have lives and families that don't allow us to put the same amount of time in a game and who expect to reasonably experience the same content over a longer period.deathbydeath said:Really? This is still a thing? I could've sworn this stopped being a thing a year-ish ago when everyone grew up and started using the term "gaming enthusiast". This makes me sad.
About this much I agree with but then you kept typing.omega 616 said:They get too much hate, just look at the top comments, so they like to play cod and Madden... And? Are you saying they shouldn't buy games they have no interest in to satisfy your want for less stagnation or so they aren't "dumbed down"? What kind of fascist gamer are you?
Having read this paragraph I believe you are a hardcore gamer. A hardcore gamer that requires a social life. Interact with real people without using a computer once in awhile. And stop showing off so much.omega 616 said:In my 24 year life, I've gamed for most of it, I don't party or socialize at all. I've bought all the cod games since MW2 on launch day and I've never bought one of your precious gaming greats (limbo, fez, brink, psychonaughts, okami, the originals of stuff like xcom, baldurs gate, fallout etc or mirrors edge) and I think indies are generally crap... What am I? I've spent thousands on gaming, spent thousands of hours playing through hunger and needing to piss really badly but half the stuff you love, I think is meh to crap.
Am I a filthy casual or hardcore... According to your definition
Dumbed down is indeed a wrongly used phrase. So wrong even YOU are misusing it. When 'hardcore' gamers refer to dumbing down. They refer to useful features that have been removed or replaced by features that are so retarded they may as well not be there. Why make things complex? Maybe these people want to fucking challenge themselves once in awhile? Who are you or I to judge them. And indeed other things in life are made simpler and simple. I still can barely use said tablet and mobile phone, but yes things are indeed getting simple. Along with the rest of humanity as it drops IQ points!omega 616 said:"Dumbed down" is such a wrongly used phrase, complex games should be dumbed down... Why make things more complex for yourself? Sounds fucked up to me! In every other walk of life things are made more simple... Phones and tablets are idiot proof but games must be so complex only people with impressive deductive skills can play? Fuck off, that's just arrogance.
In my mind I don't think anybody wants innovation. If people were after the 'innovation' that your thinking of we wouldn't have collectively put ten tonnes of money into kickstarters like Project Eternity or Star Citizen. No, what the people you a deriding are after is nostalgia. They remember their childhoods and remember the games they played and think to themselves... 'WOW! What would they be able to do with my game if they a had the technology of today!'...or something like that...omega 616 said:You all claim to want innovation but when something is innovative, nobody buys it but a sequel comes out and boom, it's the best selling piece of media ever! Don't blame the casual gamers for stagnation, if you want to assign blame you need only look in he mirror.
Well you sir, are a bit of an anomaly, you sound elitist and arrogant enough that you would fit in with the hardcore crowd, but when you slight indy games when you obviously don't know what you're talking about, that makes you a filthy, filthy casual and you should be ashamed.omega 616 said:I've never bought one of your precious gaming greats (limbo, fez, brink, psychonaughts, okami, the originals of stuff like xcom, baldurs gate, fallout etc or mirrors edge) and I think indies are generally crap... What am I?
Took the words right out of my mouth.JUMBO PALACE said:There's certainly nothing wrong with waiting until games drop in price or taking the experience slowly, but the "casual" gamer the author talks about is not the type of "causal" gamer I think a lot of "hardcore" players malign. Personally, and I think many would agree, I take issue with the casual gamer who simply buys the yearly Call of Duty or Madden, thereby contributing to the stagnation and lack of creativity in the industry. The casual gamer who asks for directions towards the quality titles like Skyrim, Metro, or even shooters with a little more depth like Battlefield are more than welcome. Sheep are not.
Firstly, I'm not showing off. I was out lining my life style and how it doesn't fit with what people were saying.Dwarfman said:snip
Actually I called MYSELF a casual gamer. At least by the writer's definition of the term.omega 616 said:Firstly, I'm not showing off. I was out lining my life style and how it doesn't fit with what people were saying.Dwarfman said:snip
Second, you call me a hardcore gamer (thanks to me explaining my life style, see, I wasn't showing off) then at the very end you call me casual and I'm the hypocrite?
Thirdly, dumbing down has nothing to do with gamers wanting to challenge themselves, it's about making them user friendly... You know, how like watchers 2 was as user friendly as a tennis racket with strings.
Like I said in my original post, my definition of casual is vastly different to what others is
Nothing to do with the internet.Phrozenflame500 said: