inFamous 2 ending

[Sammyjb17]

This is like the Portal 2 problem. I loved the ending for Chell, and though I would love more gameplay, I want Chell to be left alone for her sakes.


An idea of mine for Infamous 3 would be in Washington DC after the Beast has been through and activated you (a conduit) and seeing the governments scramble to kill you and restore order. Food for thought.

 

[Generic_Username]

"Kinda sad" must be the understatement of the year. It's an amazing ending, but it still sucks in a way. I kinda hope that lightning bolt at the end meant something.

Also, I liked how in every single mission until the last one Kuo represents good. It was surprising to see her turn against humanity.

 

[Joshica Huracane]

As much as I thought the ending was great, I think that it could have been more meaningful if it hadn't been labelled good or evil. Have this be the only neutral choice in the game, an actual moral dilemna.

Spoiler

On the one hand, you have the choice to use the RFI. Doing so kills all people in the world with the conduit gene, but there is the possibility of destroying the plague that afflicts humanity. This isn't a certainty, and even if it does cure the plague, who's to say that humanity could survive as long as a society of conduits?

On the other hand, you side with John and start activating conduits. You basically deny the one shot that humanity has left of survival (that is, the possibility that the RFI cures the plague)but, in place of that, you secure a future for "humans" with a stronger, more evolved race. Instead of possibly saving millions, you have the certainty of being able to save at least thousands who would create a stronger, more adaptable society.

Your choice comes down to "possibly (it's never claimed to be a certainty) save humanity from the plague and definitely destroy all the conduits" or "save the conduits and secure society's future, at the cost of millions of less evolved lifeforms"

Just a thought. I mean, I like being able to choose between good and evil, but aren't the harder decisions more interesting? The ones that don't outright tell us that what we're doing is the morally good or evil choice.

 

[Hendo_135]

In the first infamous kessler was future Cole. So there has to be a third game. If Cole really did die in infamous 2 then Kessler wouldn't of existed in the first game. The bolt at the end of infamous 2 could of sparked Cole back to life. Even though the city had a memorial for Coles death, zeke and "dead" Cole were still sailing to somewhere new.

 

[pspman45]

I thought it was very heroic, what a real Hero would do
Sucker Punch had the balls to kill of their protagonist, not many studios are willing to do that

 

[Sniper Team 4]

I must admit, I was hoping Cole would get his time travel powers after beating the Beast, travel back in time to save Trish, then explain to her that his current self had to believe she was dead. After that, when the current timeline Cole checks on her, she pretends to be dead, and then runs off with the time travel Cole to live a happy life.

As it stands, if the good ending in inFamous 2 DIDN'T make you sad, I question your humanity. It was the only choice to make and even though Cole will always be remembered, it was heart wrenching to watch that ending.

What bothers me about the evil ending is how completely normal people can suddenly condone mass murder, probably even genocide, in order to save their own skins. "Oh? I have super powers now? Cool. I'm going to use them to help WIPE OUT EARTHS POPULATION." I like to think that a vast majority of Conduits refused to join Cole and instead fought against him.

 

[StormShaun]

I got the good hero ending too and I think that they will have an Infamous 3, mabey with or without col, Ill say why in a spoiler box.

Spoiler: Infamous 2 hero ending details...a big spoiler

In the hero ending you see aty the very ending a lightning bolt hits the boat (Mabey cole's coffin), so it could mean he lives or, the lightning bolt is actually in a shape of a ?, so mabey something is definley going to happen

 

[Zarthek]

In the first infamous kessler was future Cole. So there has to be a third game. If Cole really did die in infamous 2 then Kessler wouldn't of existed in the first game. The bolt at the end of infamous 2 could of sparked Cole back to life. Even though the city had a memorial for Coles death, zeke and "dead" Cole were still sailing to somewhere new.

While I see where you're coming from, Kessler going back in time altered the timeline. In the original timeline (Kessler's), the ray sphere was not created as soon. When he goes back he accelerates the ray sphere, effectively speeding everything up and removing the possibility of the original timeline repeating itself. Time travel... guaranteed way to make a plot more complicated than it should be...
I'm somewhat hoping to see that bolt at the end of the final Hero cutscene bring Cole back, probably in a very weakened state, but another side of me wants the story to end here; I just feel that a 3rd game will ruin the story as a whole UNLESS the main character is not Cole anymore.

As for Zeke sailing off with Cole's body... It is kind of strange overall, a burial at sea makes almost no sense to me considering Cole's previous experience with water. My guess is that Zeke thought "Well, it's worth a shot..." and wanted to see if a lightning bolt could revive Cole.

 

[Zhukov]

Eh, the good ending didn't have much effect on me. The game never made me care about Cole, so his big heroic sacrifice lacked any impact.

I preferred the evil ending. The Zeke scene was the best bit of the game for me. Although it still didn't get anywhere close to tear-jerker territory.

 

[putowtin]

Kinda sad? I sobbed for an hour.
The 'patron saint' thing and the music in the end just made me sob harder.
It's an fantastic ending.

you too eh? When I finished the game "good" my hubby walked in the room to find me in tears... he didn't get it.
Then again

Spoiler: evil ending

in the evil ending, when it made you kill Zeke, I mean actually press that button three THREE times to kill your best friend

now that made me curl up and whimper for hours

 

[AVATAR_RAGE]

Both endings made me sad. Now that is how you make a moral choice game. Gotta love suckerpunch.

 

[putowtin]

In the first infamous kessler was future Cole. So there has to be a third game. If Cole really did die in infamous 2 then Kessler wouldn't of existed in the first game. The bolt at the end of infamous 2 could of sparked Cole back to life. Even though the city had a memorial for Coles death, zeke and "dead" Cole were still sailing to somewhere new.

by going back in time to train cole kessler re-writes his future, the way time travel works in infamous is very like Back to the Future, changing the past, re writing history stops the events than make the future so bad. Kessler may have been Cole's future had he not learnt to use his powers at the right time (the cutscene at the end of infamous explains that kessler's powers reveiled themselves later, too late to stop the beast)

 

[superdelux]

I hope they make a new Infamous it could be a sequel starring Cole or a new conduit. I'd even accept ,dare I say it, a reboot.

 

[mk3supra93]

Its hard to tell if there will be an infamous 3 or not, because the endings in the 2nd one seem very final, i mean cole dies, or he becomes what he was supposed to destroy, but then again the way everybody talks about the lightning bolt at the end of the good side, he could come back to life, its possible that there will be an infamous 3 but it would have to be 2 games in one, at this point u cant choose your karma, there are two different stories going on at once, which is actually really cool because u basiclly get a 2 for one deal, they are both very good endings, but they dont clearly open up for another game so im kinda confused as to if they will make another one or not, please feel free to give insight and comment, what do u think will happen?

 

[kmoe]

Well if you ask me the series is called infamous so it would make sense that the actual storyline is the evil one. If you remember in the first game when you went evil it was actually called Infamous not evil. plus when you beat the game in the dark version it makes a whole lot more sense then him sacrificing himself. in infamous 2 the dialogue that cole uses doesn't really fit the hero roll. really dark comments. plus in the evil version ***Spoiler alert*** he survives and ends up helping the beast to save the conduits which is a very good thing in itself because cole is still saving people. and it's not like he is the one who caused the plague. it was the raysphere which was created by dr. wolfe so really could you blame the guy for wanting to stay alive and save conduits. in the good timeline even though he saved many people, unactivated conduits died by the thousands. in my opinion sacraficing the few to save the many doesn't make it right.

 

[StormShaun]

I was very sad to see Cole leave us. I mean what does the lightning bolt in the end mean, it looked like it hit the metal coffin and formed a ? shape.

So is Cole alive...mmm maybe but doubtful. Maybe the lightning Archangel grants him a son and he gets raised up by Zeke to be the next big hero.

Either way I want an Infamous 3 with Cole or with a new guy (I think his son would make sense).

 

[DishwasherSafe]

I'm actually racking my brains trying to come up with the last time that (a) a developer had the guts to kill off their own main character, and (b) the publisher let them go through with it. Mass Effect 2 could count, but they've alreayd said the ending where Sheperd dies doesn't count. God of War III also could count, but again, that after-credits stinger doesn't make it work. Red Dead could have counted, but replacing John Marston with his son just instantly nullifies it.

Beyond those three, I really can't think of anything.

Insomniac Games killed of Nathan Hale at the end of Resistance 2. In my opinion, the first of many mistakes made for Resistance 3. R2 was one of my favorite games in a long time, but R3 turned into a survival/horror game in a post-apocalyptic alien-ruled age. As a story, it's the next logical choice, but as a game, it completely changed the gameplay of the series effectively changing the genre. Not a good move on Insomniac.

 

[Shadowstar38]

The ending had the reverse effect on me. I was enraged by the "good" ending. Reason being...

Spoiler

Mass genocide of all conduits is just kind of fucked up. I feel like there could have been another solution. I also find it hard to believe the ray sphere reached all around the world and not just killed off the conduits within a 100 mile radius or something.

 

[CrazyBlaze]

In the first infamous kessler was future Cole. So there has to be a third game. If Cole really did die in infamous 2 then Kessler wouldn't of existed in the first game. The bolt at the end of infamous 2 could of sparked Cole back to life. Even though the city had a memorial for Coles death, zeke and "dead" Cole were still sailing to somewhere new.

First I think you should have that in a spoiler. Even if the first game is old that is a pretty big twist.

That would be true if we (or the devs) see time as linear. Kessler came back in time to stop what led up to him becoming who he was. He was going back in time to help prepare his younger self for the Beast because when the Beast first appeared Kessler wasn't ready for it.

If it helps think of time as different door ways that led down different hallways. In most cases the doorway locks behind you. However Kessler was able to unlock his door and go down a different way. The one doorway still exists, its just Kessler has stopped travelling down it. Its still there but only now its missing a person.

In fact if time was only path then Kessler would have stopped existing the moment he became the leader of the First Sons and following actions would have erased him and his actions. In fact one major difference in his timeline was that he Trish got married. With his actions in the third act preventing that from ever happening. So yeah. Its less he came from the future of the Infamous timeline. he just travelled to another timeline at an earlier point.


OT: I loved the good ending. And the bad ending. Both were great. In fact I kind of want the bad ending to be cannon, just to be able to create a person with their own powers. In fact that is what I hope the third game is. You have a character that is already named and all but you get to choose their powers. Like do you want to have Ice power or fire or electric or acid or earth etc. That would be cool. And similar to the second game you get to choose one more power later.

 

[The Last Nomad]

There can't be a sequel if the good one was the real ending, as how there are no longer anymore conduits in the world or will be anymore.

This man speaks the truth, but I don't know if I would like to play an infmaous game after what happens in the evil ending...

actually fuck that, I'd take more infamous in a second.