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Macksheath said:
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I just want to keep Judas in treachery to keep some ties to the original story
Then put Marx in Limbo; that way, you get your hero in, and it fits as he never knew his theory would lead to the likes of Stalin.

OK, thats my ideas run dry/
But he had knowledge of god

I wish I could Marx in Limbo, but can he really go there if he knew of God?
 

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Me, Michael Atkinson, you, Yahtzee, Jordan, you, The LA Lakers, Doctor Robotnic, you, that guy who places house in house, EA, YOU!
 

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Zepren said:
Me, Michael Atkinson, you, Yahtzee, Jordan, you, The LA Lakers, Doctor Robotnic, you, that guy who places house in house, EA, YOU!
I'm sensing someone doesn't like me :p
 

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your closest dead relative, not joking, as it is an ample opportunity to bring in some comedy and/or self reflection/tearjerk sections, you want to show the audience that this is not just a trip through hell, and that it is a personal experience for you.
 

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soilent said:
your closest dead relative, not joking, as it is an ample opportunity to bring in some comedy and/or self reflection/tearjerk sections, you want to show the audience that this is not just a trip through hell, and that it is a personal experience for you.
That is actually a really good idea, but none of my dead relatives did anything that would land them in Hell
 

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snakevin said:
soilent said:
your closest dead relative, not joking, as it is an ample opportunity to bring in some comedy and/or self reflection/tearjerk sections, you want to show the audience that this is not just a trip through hell, and that it is a personal experience for you.
That is actually a really good idea, but none of my dead relatives did anything that would land them in Hell
I'm sure you could think of something, I know you wouldnt want to defame your own family member, but it would certainly be an effective plotpoint.
 

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soilent said:
snakevin said:
soilent said:
your closest dead relative, not joking, as it is an ample opportunity to bring in some comedy and/or self reflection/tearjerk sections, you want to show the audience that this is not just a trip through hell, and that it is a personal experience for you.
That is actually a really good idea, but none of my dead relatives did anything that would land them in Hell
I'm sure you could think of something, I know you wouldnt want to defame your own family member, but it would certainly be an effective plotpoint.
True, but I only have a few dead relatives I knew, and they were one of the sweetest people I knew. We would watch old movies all the time over there, and my great grandfather would talk to me about scouts and bake cakes
 

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Xpwn3ntial said:
What about Jack the Ripper?
Put him in. Oh, and don't forget to add Pope Andrew IV, aka Rodrigo Borgia, the most corrupt Pope in history, in the Heretic section
 

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snakevin said:
soilent said:
snakevin said:
soilent said:
your closest dead relative, not joking, as it is an ample opportunity to bring in some comedy and/or self reflection/tearjerk sections, you want to show the audience that this is not just a trip through hell, and that it is a personal experience for you.
That is actually a really good idea, but none of my dead relatives did anything that would land them in Hell
I'm sure you could think of something, I know you wouldnt want to defame your own family member, but it would certainly be an effective plotpoint.
True, but I only have a few dead relatives I knew, and they were one of the sweetest people I knew. We would watch old movies all the time over there, and my great grandfather would talk to me about scouts and bake cakes
let me put my own spin on it, perhaps as an example.
If I were doing it, I might insert my grandfather in there, he was an amazing person to me when he was alive, but he was a bit racist and I'm sure he beat my grandmother at least once, but I would put him in there for something nobody could take seriously, like having graven images. But thats only for a lighter side, attaching a greater crime to it could make it a very powerful moment.
 

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snakevin said:
Macksheath said:
snakevin said:
I just want to keep Judas in treachery to keep some ties to the original story
Then put Marx in Limbo; that way, you get your hero in, and it fits as he never knew his theory would lead to the likes of Stalin.

OK, thats my ideas run dry/
But he had knowledge of god

I wish I could Marx in Limbo, but can he really go there if he knew of God?
Well, he was an athiest, so that would work.
 

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Simon1 said:
Xpwn3ntial said:
What about Jack the Ripper?
Put him in. Oh, and don't forget to add Pope Andrew IV, aka Rodrigo Borgia, the most corrupt Pope in history, in the Heretic section
Plan on it
Simon1 said:
snakevin said:
Macksheath said:
snakevin said:
I just want to keep Judas in treachery to keep some ties to the original story
Then put Marx in Limbo; that way, you get your hero in, and it fits as he never knew his theory would lead to the likes of Stalin.

OK, thats my ideas run dry/
But he had knowledge of god

I wish I could Marx in Limbo, but can he really go there if he knew of God?
Well, he was an athiest, so that would work.
True, I'll put him in there, hell, might even make him my guide
 

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Foggy_Fishburne said:
Gilgamesh? Stalin? Mao? Some Pope? Leopold II of Belgium? Leopold was a vicious disgusting man, you should definetly include him in the play. He "owned" Kongo, it wasn't a colony, he fucking "owned" all the people there. And he treated the natives like animals, cutting of their hands if they didn't work fast enough... He was the animal
For a second, I thought you said Gargamel from The Smurfs! :p
 

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Foggy_Fishburne said:
snakevin said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
Gilgamesh? Stalin? Mao? Some Pope? Leopold II of Belgium? Leopold was a vicious disgusting man, you should definetly include him in the play. He "owned" Kongo, it wasn't a colony, he fucking "owned" all the people there. And he treated the natives like animals, cutting of their hands if they didn't work fast enough... He was the animal
For a second, I thought you said Gargamel from The Smurfs! :p
Hahaha nah, I watched Pokemon instead :p Don't know any smurfs. Oh and Marx shouldn't be in hell. At all
I agree, if Heaven did exist, he should have his own section, but I do need a guide....
 

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Well, to have the most impact, you'll want to go with relatively recent, or well-known public figures.

Joseph McCarthy would be a nice addition to the 7th level for his perpetuation of the Red Scare.
Lee Harvey Oswald, Benedict Arnold, and the Rosenbergs would be real good choices to put in the 9th Circle.
Bin Laden would be good, if you can do it right. Don't damn him for being a murderer (which he is), but instead damn him for twisting the message of God for his own gain. 6th Circle for him.
You can have all kinds of punishments lined up for corrupt church officials. Personally, I'd see the priests who molested children damned to the 9th for betraying God.

Stalin, and Hitler are good as a passing reference, but we all know that they're going to hell. It won't have as much impact as having, say, Harry Truman, the United States president that authorized the use of the Atom Bomb on Japan. Basically, what I'm trying to say is your play will resonate better if you use people you normally wouldn't expect. Bonus points if the people are popular.

I'm not as good with Canadian History as I should be, but if you know any prominent people in Canadian culture that deserve damnation, definitely go for it.
 

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SilentHunter7 said:
Well, to have the most impact, you'll want to go with relatively recent public figures.

Joseph McCarthy would be a nice addition to the 7th level for his perpetuation of the Red Scare.
Lee Harvey Oswald, and the Rosenbergs would be real good choices to put in the 9th Circle.
Bin Laden would be good, if you can do it right. Don't damn him for being a murderer (which he is), but instead damn him for twisting the message of God for his own gain. 6th Circle for him.
You can have all kinds of punishments lined up for corrupt church officials. Personally, I'd see the priests who molested children damned to the 9th for betraying God.

Stalin, and Hitler are good as a passing reference, but we all know that they're going to hell. It won't have as much impact as having, say, Harry Truman, the United States president that authorized the use of the Atom Bomb on Japan. Basically, what I'm trying to say is your play will resonate better if you use people you normally wouldn't expect. Bonus points if the people are popular.

I'm not as good with Canadian History as I should be, but if you know any prominent people in Canadian culture that deserve damnation, definitely go for it.
So putting McCarthy in the 7th circle! I Hate that guy! I also see what you are getting at, I need to pull the unexpected, but need to have some expecteds in there too
 

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Foggy_Fishburne said:
snakevin said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
snakevin said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
Gilgamesh? Stalin? Mao? Some Pope? Leopold II of Belgium? Leopold was a vicious disgusting man, you should definetly include him in the play. He "owned" Kongo, it wasn't a colony, he fucking "owned" all the people there. And he treated the natives like animals, cutting of their hands if they didn't work fast enough... He was the animal
For a second, I thought you said Gargamel from The Smurfs! :p
Hahaha nah, I watched Pokemon instead :p Don't know any smurfs. Oh and Marx shouldn't be in hell. At all
I agree, if Heaven did exist, he should have his own section, but I do need a guide....
Hahahaha ah that was a good one :D

Hm a guide? Well the way I understand it, it can be a contemporary philosopher, poet, writer. Virgil wasn't sent to hell was he? He was a guide because, well they were both Italians, Dante and Virgil (DMC eh? :p). So your guide doesn't have to be evil? Instead someone wise, who can explain to you everything about hell.
He was sent to Limbo, because he died before Chistianity existed
 

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If you want to make a statement on something, you should have a character who is just "visiting" or "checking in" to a circle of Hell to make sure things are going well.
Like Dick Cheney or something, make him out to be an agent of Hell. Won't get too many objections.

A better idea, though, if you want to do something about Dante's Inferno- you should make the brutally honest version. Show Dante as the hack he was. How he wrote himself into classical literature, because he thought he was just so amazing and couldn't wait around for someone to write something epic about the awesome things he knew he was going to do in his life. Not to mention he had to canonize his "relationship" with Beatrice and believe they were true lovers- so that no one would look back and realize that he was basically Beatrice's stalker.
And then we canonized his piece of fanfiction

Dante was a tool. Make it a comedy about him.
 

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Caligulove said:
If you want to make a statement on something, you should have a character who is just "visiting" or "checking in" to a circle of Hell to make sure things are going well.
Like Dick Cheney or something, make him out to be an agent of Hell. Won't get too many objections.

A better idea, though, if you want to do something about Dante's Inferno- you should make the brutally honest version. Show Dante as the hack he was. How he wrote himself into classical literature, because he thought he was just so amazing and couldn't wait around for someone to write something epic about the awesome things he knew he was going to do in his life. Not to mention he had to canonize his "relationship" with Beatrice and believe they were true lovers- so that no one would look back and realize that he was basically Beatrice's stalker.
And then we canonized his piece of fanfiction

Dante was a tool. Make it a comedy about him.
That could work, I was reading a summary of the book, and he seemed to thing he was the big thing
 

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Foggy_Fishburne said:
snakevin said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
snakevin said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
snakevin said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
Gilgamesh? Stalin? Mao? Some Pope? Leopold II of Belgium? Leopold was a vicious disgusting man, you should definetly include him in the play. He "owned" Kongo, it wasn't a colony, he fucking "owned" all the people there. And he treated the natives like animals, cutting of their hands if they didn't work fast enough... He was the animal
For a second, I thought you said Gargamel from The Smurfs! :p
Hahaha nah, I watched Pokemon instead :p Don't know any smurfs. Oh and Marx shouldn't be in hell. At all
I agree, if Heaven did exist, he should have his own section, but I do need a guide....
Hahahaha ah that was a good one :D

Hm a guide? Well the way I understand it, it can be a contemporary philosopher, poet, writer. Virgil wasn't sent to hell was he? He was a guide because, well they were both Italians, Dante and Virgil (DMC eh? :p). So your guide doesn't have to be evil? Instead someone wise, who can explain to you everything about hell.
He was sent to Limbo, because he died before Chistianity existed
Aaahaa... Wow. He went to hell because the religion didn't exist... Anyway, well alright. Now I see why people wanted to put in Marx. He was an atheist (Woho!! :D). In that case, Marx works brilliantly :p Funny enough
It would suck to be in limbo. I mean, there is no eternal torture, but then, there is no eternal bliss. A life of bleakness and nver being granted perfect harmony.
 

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snakevin said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
snakevin said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
snakevin said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
snakevin said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
Gilgamesh? Stalin? Mao? Some Pope? Leopold II of Belgium? Leopold was a vicious disgusting man, you should definetly include him in the play. He "owned" Kongo, it wasn't a colony, he fucking "owned" all the people there. And he treated the natives like animals, cutting of their hands if they didn't work fast enough... He was the animal
For a second, I thought you said Gargamel from The Smurfs! :p
Hahaha nah, I watched Pokemon instead :p Don't know any smurfs. Oh and Marx shouldn't be in hell. At all
I agree, if Heaven did exist, he should have his own section, but I do need a guide....
Hahahaha ah that was a good one :D

Hm a guide? Well the way I understand it, it can be a contemporary philosopher, poet, writer. Virgil wasn't sent to hell was he? He was a guide because, well they were both Italians, Dante and Virgil (DMC eh? :p). So your guide doesn't have to be evil? Instead someone wise, who can explain to you everything about hell.
He was sent to Limbo, because he died before Chistianity existed
Aaahaa... Wow. He went to hell because the religion didn't exist... Anyway, well alright. Now I see why people wanted to put in Marx. He was an atheist (Woho!! :D). In that case, Marx works brilliantly :p Funny enough
It would suck to be in limbo. I mean, there is no eternal torture, but then, there is no eternal bliss. A life of bleakness and nver being granted perfect harmony.
Isn't limbo actually a temporary place, where people must wait before they can enter heaven because they didn't get all of their sins absolved?