Infinity = 1?

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7moreDead_v1legacy

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I was watching this http://bbc.co.uk/i/qszch/
It's about infinity, but it touches upon the big bang/inflation theory.

And well it got me thinking...

"So...An infinite amount of universes, each one containing an infinite amount of galaxies and planets, expanding out into an infinite amount of space... Surely at some point these could/would theoretically expand into each other - Which brings us back too 1, does this mean 1 is the biggest number in the world - As well as the smallest?. Since you can't have nothing - Nothing is the absence of 1. My head hurts."

Couldn't be bothered to rewrite that so I looted it from my facebook status.

Kinda rushed that due to being at work and what not (quiet day). Point I am trying to get at is 1 is the be all and end all?

When this infinite expands into each other they will become one giant (for lack of a better term) universe. Now you could do this ad nauseum but the resulting factor would end up becoming 1...Any number you can think of is 1 repeated right?

Any thoughts on infinity? Could infinity be finite? Is 1 > 42?

I am starting to bleed from the ears now so I shall depart and finish off what needs to be done at work.

(I did search for similar things and nothing came up trumps).
 

Cargando

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Infinity isn't really a number. It's easier to think of it as concept, rather than an actual number. Also, if all the infinities expanded into each other... behnid that would be another infinity.
 

WINDOWCLEAN2

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Seen as none of it can be proved its all theory, so its possible that any number can be any place in an order
 

reg42

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Infinity isn't a number, its an idea. It can't be 1, because 1 is a number, not an idea.
 

Maze1125

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No, infinity most definitely does not equal 1. An infinite number of universes in the same space would be an infinite number of universes in the same space, not 1 universe. We might redefine it as 1 universe, but that doesn't mean infinity = 1 just that we altered our definitions.

Also what TheNamlessGuy said.

But, while we're on the subject of things equalling 1:
0.999... = 1
 

flaming_squirrel

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Naaah, even though the universes have converged it's still an infinite expanse around them.

One of the parts which gets me:
Infinity - infinity = infinity.

That and the thought that this exact universe could possibly be occuring an infinite number of times and that I've lived and died an infinite amount. Mah brainz.


Edit: It was a rather interesting program though, was wondering if someone would make a thread.
 

crotalidian

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some mind bending concepts to throw in the mix

there is an infinte volume of numbers between ever integer, there are also an infinite number of integers. these are the same number but if you consider that there are an infinite number of numbers in total then the sum of all those infinitys have to be bigger right?

WRONG!

also. just because I gave my friend a headache with this oone before.....consider a 1-dimensional square...
 

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TheNamlessGuy said:
Not really.

The thing is that the space the universes go between is infinite, so they wouldn't expand into each other.
Infinity is something the human mind can't picture
What he said.

If the space between the Galaxy's in Infinite then they would never touch.

And like a few other people said, it cant be explained because its not a number or something tangible.
its more like a theory.
 

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crotalidian said:
also. just because I gave my friend a headache with this oone before.....consider a 1-dimensional square...
There isn't any such thing. Just like how a three dimensional square is best known as a "cube" or "rectangular prism", anything two-dimensional reduced to one dimension is best known as a "line".
 

MurderousToaster

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Infinity =/= 1.
Because one is one thing, infinity is infinite things. You can't put infinity as a number, because it doesn't end.
 

crotalidian

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lacktheknack said:
crotalidian said:
also. just because I gave my friend a headache with this oone before.....consider a 1-dimensional square...
There isn't any such thing. Just like how a three dimensional square is best known as a "cube" or "rectangular prism", anything two-dimensional reduced to one dimension is best known as a "line".
A line (in real world terms) is still a very slim rectancle, however there is the stringtheory of one dimensional strings so why not squares....
 

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Maze1125 said:
No, infinity most definitely does not equal 1. An infinite number of universes in the same space would be an infinite number of universes in the same space, not 1 universe. We might redefine it as 1 universe, but that doesn't mean infinity = 1 just that we altered our definitions.

Also what TheNamlessGuy said.

But, while we're on the subject of things equalling 1:
0.999... = 1
lol ooh yeah, my friend showed me a calculus equation that proved this and its simple, but at the same time you can see that the equation had to be manipulated to where you werer basically adding in a certain part to the problem which is hard to recognize... ok im not making any sense myself lol. i'll just stop talking, im probably wrong.
 

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TheNamlessGuy said:
Not really.

The thing is that the space the universes go between is infinite, so they wouldn't expand into each other.
Infinity is something the human mind can't picture
Yes, it is. All mathematics comes from our mind.
 

Daverson

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Infinity, as a number, basically exists so we can say if x+y/x(or x-y/x, x*y/x and so on, sort of thing that comes up a lot in physical equations), we can assume in many cases x is infinitely large than y, would be approximately equal to x/x, or 1. Truth is that nothing is infinite by the very definition of the word.

For example, if you were trying to perform a Lorentz transformation on a car moving at, say, 30mph relative to us, the speed of light can be assumed to be infinitely as big as the speed of the car, allowing us to ignore relativistic effects. In truth, there are relativistic effects taking place between the car and the observer, but they're too small to recognise. Another good example would be gravitational effects of small objects on the earth.