Infinity = 1?

[tanjiro6288]

infinity is every and no number it is every thing and nothing it's just sad to squabble about it so DONT

 

[Retodon8]

Imagine a graph of the function: Y = 2 * X
Once X reaches infinity, so does Y.
You could say it reaches two times infinity, but can you?
Basically infinity is undefined; it could be anything.
1000 / 1000 = 1
1000 / 100 = 10
1000 / 10 = 100
1000 / 1 = 1000
1000 / 0.1 = 10000
1000 / 0.000001 = 1000000000
1000 / 0 must be infinity then?

1 / 0 must be infinity as well, and the same goes for 100000000000000000000 / 0.
That's sort of correct, because, again, infinity is not defined.

Infinity isn't really a number. It's easier to think of it as concept, rather than an actual number.

I agree with that explanation.

 

[PhiMed]

You're assuming that the universes would necessarily merge. This is not necessarily the case. While two universes could eventually merge into the same "space", they could coexist and still not include each other. In other words, an item with a particular set of coordinates could differ by only one coordinate , and that would place it squarely in one universe over the other.

There are some physicists who have postulated that the universe we are able to perceive is actually an intersection of two distinct universes. So if that's true, the two universes colliding would make three smaller universes, not bigger one.

 

[Retodon8]

infinity is every and no number it is every thing and nothing it's just sad to squabble about it so DONT

That's just wrong.
Writing that equals inviting others to comment, so doing that and at the same time calling people who talk about this sad, isn't very nice.

But, while we're on the subject of things equalling 1: 0.999... = 1

lol ooh yeah, my friend showed me a calculus equation that proved this and its simple, but at the same time you can see that the equation had to be manipulated to where you werer basically adding in a certain part to the problem which is hard to recognize... ok im not making any sense myself lol. i'll just stop talking, im probably wrong.

You can actually wrap your head around it by thinking logically.
1 / 3 = 0.3
Actually more precise would be 0.33333, but if you calculate the exact number you'll find that it is 0.33333... with an infinite amount of 3s.
If you multiply that number by 3, you undo the division, which means the answer must be 1.
Actually calculating though, you'll get 0.99999... with an infinite amount of 0s.

 

[Sevre]

I think we can stick with one universe for now.

 

[PhiMed]

Infinity isn't a number, its an idea. It can't be 1, because 1 is a number, not an idea.

All numbers are ideas. There was no such thing as "1" until humans created it. Just because it's an easier concept to grasp than infinity doesn't mean it's inherently separate.

But as for the OP, no. Infinity is not one. That is, unless you redefine what it is that you're enumerating.

 

[tgcPheonix]

Before you get to discussing infinity you might want to consider this,

So...An infinite amount of universes, each one containing an infinite amount of galaxies and planets,

if an infinite universe is never ending how could it possibly expand beyond its self...

 

[tanjiro6288]

1000 / 0.1 = 10000
1000 / 0.000001 = 1000000000
1000 / 0 must be infinity then?

1 / 0 must be infinity as well, and the same goes for 100000000000000000000 / 0.
That's sort of correct, because, again, infinity is not defined.

well no 1/0 is 0 its taking 0 lots of 1

infinity is all basicaly just picture the universe as a growing mass when it stops growing it will eventualy start coming back in. so so must infinity when it gets to the edge of being evrything everything will slowly become nothing

 

[BlindMessiah94]

Just because there is an infinite amount of space in the universe does not mean there is an infinite amount of galaxies in it.
There is a finite amount of matter in infinite space. There's still a lot of it mind you.

And regardless what does it matter? They are just numbers.

 

[reg42]

Infinity isn't a number, its an idea. It can't be 1, because 1 is a number, not an idea.

All numbers are ideas. There was no such thing as "1" until humans created it. Just because it's an easier concept to grasp than infinity doesn't mean it's inherently separate.

But as for the OP, no. Infinity is not one. That is, unless you redefine what it is that you're enumerating.

I disagree. I can count to 1. I can see 1 cow. I can take away 3 from 4 and be left with 1. I cannot, however count to infinity or have infinity cows, and if you can take 3 away from something and be left with infinity, I'll be impressed.
(I'm very tired, so if that didn't make sense, just ignore it.)

 

[Qualko]

Well, it's already been said, but yeah, infinity is not a number, as it is not a quantified value. It is also completely unimaginable to the human brain (except as an abstract concept), as we are finite in every sense.

Although it would be best to ask someone who actually has a greater understanding of this topic, we're just guessing for the most part.

 

[Retodon8]

I disagree. I can count to 1. I can see 1 cow. I can take away 3 from 4 and be left with 1. I cannot, however count to infinity or have infinity cows, and if you can take 3 away from something and be left with infinity, I'll be impressed.
(I'm very tired, so if that didn't make sense, just ignore it.)

-1 is a number too, but there isn't such a thing as -1 cow.
Well, if you'd ask how many cows you'd need to add to 5 cows to get 4 cows, you'd need to add -1 cow, but it doesn't really work like that.
Numbers as just that, numbers, no dimensions, no units, are something humans thought of, as is math, even if it explains how everything around us (and inside us) works.

well no 1/0 is 0 its taking 0 lots of 1

1/0 != 0
You'd need an infinite amount of 0s to get 1, and infinity is undefined.
Or try multiplying both sides by 0 to get: 1 / 0 * 0 = 0 * 0
That is the same as: 1 = 0 * 0, or even 1 = 0.
Just try to divide anything by 0 on your calculator, PC, or whatever, it won't give you a straight answer.
Even 0/0 doesn't work, it's not 1 as you would expect with X / X.

 

[Stranger of Sorts]

Yes, it is. All mathematics comes from our mind.

Not really, as infinity is not a number, more a word to describe the endless.

And I think it's more physics.

But then isn't 1 meant to describe a whole thing, so therefore everything?

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

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[reg42]

I disagree. I can count to 1. I can see 1 cow. I can take away 3 from 4 and be left with 1. I cannot, however count to infinity or have infinity cows, and if you can take 3 away from something and be left with infinity, I'll be impressed.
(I'm very tired, so if that didn't make sense, just ignore it.)

-1 is a number too, but there isn't such a thing as -1 cow.
Well, if you'd ask how many cows you'd need to add to 5 cows to get 4 cows, you'd need to add -1 cow, but it doesn't really work like that.
Numbers as just that, numbers, no dimensions, no units, are something humans thought of, as is math, even if it explains how everything around us (and inside us) works.

I maintain that negative integers are an idea, as is infinity. You can see 3 of something, it can be physical. You can't physically get infinity or any negetive number, they (among other things) are used to help us understand the world, but they aren't "real".

 

[The Last Nomad]

I see what you mean... and it is conpuzzling...
I makes sense that the universe is 1 'big' mass... But its size is infinite...

Size is different to amount, and that is the only problem I see with that theory

 

[Stranger of Sorts]

But then isn't 1 meant to describe a whole thing, so therefore everything?

That it is, but infinity isn't one thing, it's all of everything.

This could keep on going forever with me saying that everything is technically one thing so 1=infinity and so on... I think the only logical explanation is that (in my highly suspect opinion) infinity is impossible.

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

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[PhiMed]

Infinity isn't a number, its an idea. It can't be 1, because 1 is a number, not an idea.

All numbers are ideas. There was no such thing as "1" until humans created it. Just because it's an easier concept to grasp than infinity doesn't mean it's inherently separate.

But as for the OP, no. Infinity is not one. That is, unless you redefine what it is that you're enumerating.

I disagree. I can count to 1. I can see 1 cow. I can take away 3 from 4 and be left with 1. I cannot, however count to infinity or have infinity cows, and if you can take 3 away from something and be left with infinity, I'll be impressed.
(I'm very tired, so if that didn't make sense, just ignore it.)

So, in order to be a number, you have to be able to count to it. Do you deny the existence of pi?...

(gasps)Wait...

(whispers apprehensively) Can you count to pi?

 

[Stranger of Sorts]

No, no it's possible.

It's just beyond human minds

You could say that infinity is used in the place of numbers so complex and long because they're beyond the human mind.