Infinity Blade Dev: "We're in the Golden Age of Gaming"
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Games have been copying each other much longer than a decade.Antari said:
Go look at the NES library. Do you have any idea how many shitty Mario clones there are? It's far, FAR, FAAAAAAAR worse then Call of Duty copying and the sort.
This is a "Simpsons did it situation". Nothing these days can be completely original, and thinking anything otherwise is just delusional.
The funny thing is, everyone seems to have forgetten that before Modern Warefare came along, nearly every FPS was a World War 2 shooter.Radeonx said:
Nostalgia goggles blind quite a few people it seems. There were just as many unoriginal and cash in attempts 10/15/20 years ago, as there are now.
There. You finally substantiated your claim at last.Abandon4093 said:
If you're measuring the quality of games solely by the number of people working in the field, that context makes more sense based on the increased opportunities.
In that, I can see your reasoning, not just "IT IS BECAUSE IT IS" repeated ad-nauseum.
On the other hand, one could potentially refute the claim by eliminating anyone working on the clones and sequel treadmills from the "creativity" pool since there's not a whole lot of it to be had in the "Military Shooter" or "Twitchy Combat Platformer" genres these days.Atmos Duality said:
It's hard to claim "creativity" when the directive from management is "do what worked so well last year."
I respect your opinion, no matter how wrong it may be.Abandon4093 said:
OT: Golden Age of multiplayer shooters, maybe. Just maybe. That being said, gaming has come a long way but is definitely not the best will ever be, nor is it the best it has been. Two massive publishers dominate the market (that I don't want to fail because I own some ATVI stock), companies are using abusive DRM and EULAs to allow people to use what is essentially on loan to us and piracy is rampant.
I'd say the Golden Age of gaming was in the '90s, because we saw the rise of tonnes of different genres, memorable characters, unique games (except for the flood of platformers) and, most importantly, games were fun. Do you remember that? Fun? When beating a level wasn't a chore and was extremely rewarding once you finally beat it?
[sub][sub][sub]I wasn't even a gamer for most of that time though...[/sub][/sub][/sub]
Taking into account that in this year I played Portal 2, Batman Arkham City, And Skyrim, that you can play nes, sega, snes game in your phone (heck, the fact that that's a thing) that Tim Schafer started what could be a gaming revolution with independent programmers I could say that yes, this are awesome times to be living. I can't wait for the future.
I wouldn't go as far as to say this is the "Golden Age", but it isn't the rusted, beaten shitty car-left-in-a-field age either. There are many great games out nowadays, offering their own kind of experience, in their own way. Some clones I find are actually done well, adding on very welcome new features. Driving games, perhaps, just keep trying to perfect the formulas in their physics and handling, and realism. Shooters maybe have gone stale, but there is a reason they keep making money.
Whether the games are great are not is not so relevant, there are always standouts, such as the new Batmans, Devil May Cry and God of War clones, innovative mind benders like Portal 2, even innovation in shooters such as Far Cry 2, though it may not be outstanding itself.
Surely, there are things that may have died out and disappointed many, like the death of the survival horror genre, games getting too easy, or shooter sequels getting stamped out one after the other, or even old franchises taking on shooter/action-esque traits as they go along. But this a shame that comes with the widening of the fan base of games in general. It seems people don't want to spend too long on a single player campaign anymore, they seem to be getting shorter and easier, and that's why the amazing experiences from one game just blurs into the next.
For me, it would almost be a golden age, but it could do with a little more innovation and attention to what fans like instead of grabbing for cash. And yes, publishers stop acting like a bunch of assholes, hopefully, and treat games more like a normal media form again.
Whether the games are great are not is not so relevant, there are always standouts, such as the new Batmans, Devil May Cry and God of War clones, innovative mind benders like Portal 2, even innovation in shooters such as Far Cry 2, though it may not be outstanding itself.
Surely, there are things that may have died out and disappointed many, like the death of the survival horror genre, games getting too easy, or shooter sequels getting stamped out one after the other, or even old franchises taking on shooter/action-esque traits as they go along. But this a shame that comes with the widening of the fan base of games in general. It seems people don't want to spend too long on a single player campaign anymore, they seem to be getting shorter and easier, and that's why the amazing experiences from one game just blurs into the next.
For me, it would almost be a golden age, but it could do with a little more innovation and attention to what fans like instead of grabbing for cash. And yes, publishers stop acting like a bunch of assholes, hopefully, and treat games more like a normal media form again.
Ahhhh nostalgiafag playground thread. The term "Golden Age" is so hideously subjective that it loses all meaning and purpose.
But I agree, with the twing of hypocrisy that brings.
People are very eager to say "EA!!!!" and then sit back in their chairs and feel smug and clever. It's a Golden Age because people are thinking about games. There are colleges for games. There are critics for games. There are people who once thought video games were a toy for childern, only now reconsidering. Bioshock, Bastion, and Deus Ex: HR, are just a few of the games that finally transcend the mark of toy and into something more. I know that there are examples from the past that do the same thing, but the quantity has never been greater.
Embrace the future, it's looking bright.
But I agree, with the twing of hypocrisy that brings.
People are very eager to say "EA!!!!" and then sit back in their chairs and feel smug and clever. It's a Golden Age because people are thinking about games. There are colleges for games. There are critics for games. There are people who once thought video games were a toy for childern, only now reconsidering. Bioshock, Bastion, and Deus Ex: HR, are just a few of the games that finally transcend the mark of toy and into something more. I know that there are examples from the past that do the same thing, but the quantity has never been greater.
Embrace the future, it's looking bright.
Nice small text bro.mitchell271 said:
I digress. I feel the need to point out how you casually swept the whole platformer shitstorm under the rug whilst claiming shooters are ruining the Industry. Allow me to also point out that for all of the ground breaking games in the '90s there was a slew of crap. What if the only games I brought up from this gen were games you enjoy and then somehow made everything else disappear? It would be the golden age would it not? Your rose colored glasses eliminate all of the problems you have with the industry today that very much existed in the past. Look up Vivendi games and go from there. A true "Golden Age" (I.E. one with no problems) will never exist. But the present is the best it will be until the future.
Dragon Age II, Saints Row The Third, and Capcom exploiting DLC like it's a sweatshop worker. Golden age of gaming, yeah.
yeah i have to agree with you. gaming is getting better all the time, but we're not quite there yetZhukov said:
Nah, not a golden age at all.
But even me, the hater of "AAA" games and shooters, will say that we're in a hell of a time to be gamers. Of the 3 major systems you really can't choose wrong. People give Nintendo crap for the Wii being casual/Mario/Zelda, but they fail to see the really worthwhile games there. 30+ I'd recommend fairly highly to any gamer, and it's a really good spread of genres and experiences, old and new. PC is also a haven for some amazing games. And look at the handhelds, too. The Nintendo DS is honestly my favorite system of all time, and there's a hell of a library there to back my claim. The PSP is no lightweight, either. 3DS is really picking up steam and has some great stuff just on the horizon, as is the Vita, to an extent. Hell, even smartphones have e few that are really worth playing, even if most of them are ports/ripoffs or are available elsewhere, often with better gameplay there.
It's a great time to be a gamer, and if you're like me you barely know the meaning of DRM and DLC. I just don't have to deal with that most of the time because of what I play and how I don't care about many AAA games and multiplayer. (don't confuse "don't care" with "would never play" though. As a hardcore gamer I'm open to all kinds of games. I just don't have the money (or time!) to go buy every Assassin's Creed.)
But even me, the hater of "AAA" games and shooters, will say that we're in a hell of a time to be gamers. Of the 3 major systems you really can't choose wrong. People give Nintendo crap for the Wii being casual/Mario/Zelda, but they fail to see the really worthwhile games there. 30+ I'd recommend fairly highly to any gamer, and it's a really good spread of genres and experiences, old and new. PC is also a haven for some amazing games. And look at the handhelds, too. The Nintendo DS is honestly my favorite system of all time, and there's a hell of a library there to back my claim. The PSP is no lightweight, either. 3DS is really picking up steam and has some great stuff just on the horizon, as is the Vita, to an extent. Hell, even smartphones have e few that are really worth playing, even if most of them are ports/ripoffs or are available elsewhere, often with better gameplay there.
It's a great time to be a gamer, and if you're like me you barely know the meaning of DRM and DLC. I just don't have to deal with that most of the time because of what I play and how I don't care about many AAA games and multiplayer. (don't confuse "don't care" with "would never play" though. As a hardcore gamer I'm open to all kinds of games. I just don't have the money (or time!) to go buy every Assassin's Creed.)
Golden Age is a retarded expression anyway. When it comes down to it, there's more games being made, with better tech, previously unimagined connectivity to other players, more individuals playing the games produced and more objective coverage (also a lot more subjective) of gaming in general than ever before.
I can't believe that people are so nostalgic for their favourite older games that they would ignore progress because it produces lots of poor games.
Natural selection ffs.
I can't believe that people are so nostalgic for their favourite older games that they would ignore progress because it produces lots of poor games.
Natural selection ffs.
Jesus..I think people need to lighten up just a bit
I think games are getting better at creating emotinally engaging storys and charachters,
seriously? I didnt think gaming was good untill I playes ome Bioshock..then some mass effect, then some half-life 2...portal
ohh just leave the grumpy old men to their complaining
I think games are getting better at creating emotinally engaging storys and charachters,
seriously? I didnt think gaming was good untill I playes ome Bioshock..then some mass effect, then some half-life 2...portal
ohh just leave the grumpy old men to their complaining