With the amount of people on the internet these days who like to parrot the word 'entitlement' about everything it pays to be a little defensive.Legion said:Did anybody actually not like the idea of female marines? Or was the issue with "gamers demanding new things"?Rainboq said:To all those people out there who don't like this idea, all I can say is:
Not that I think gamers shouldn't be able to express the desire for things in games, it is not like developers have to include them. In this instance, it was just common sense to.
I imagine some people will see this as "caving into whiny fans", but then in my opinion, if developers want to treat their games as art, then they can't treat it as a marketable product as well.
This is good.Fanghawk said:Internet Petition Brings Aliens: Colonial Marines Female Jarheads
Playable, customizable female characters suit up for both singleplayer and multiplayer.
It's easy to doubt the significance and importance of online petitions, but every now and then they can make the voices of gamers heard. Such was the case when Gearbox producer Brian Burleson stated that Aliens: Colonial Marines' multiplayer modes would exclusively feature playable male characters. Aliens fans found this a little odd, considering that the series is among the most female-centered franchises of science-fiction, so <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/118287-Petition-Demands-Female-Jarheads-in-Aliens-Colonial-Marines>a petition was quickly filled with almost 4000 signatures demanding that the oversight be corrected. The efforts have attracted the attention of Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford and Community Manager Chris Faylor, who revealed that Colonial Marines will not only have playable female marines in its competitive multiplayer mode, but in the co-operative story campaign as well.
"I am happy to be able to confirm that female marines are playable in competitive multiplayer as well as co-op, complete with customization elements," Faylor wrote to the petitioners. "This is something the team has been planning and working on for quite some time, and that work is finally at the point where we can confirm it will indeed ship with the game when it releases on February 12, 2013."
Pitchford has also confirmed that playable female characters are in the works, adding that Gearbox simply hadn't wanted to show anything off until it was in a finished state. The petition and subsequent media attention forced a change from this position, so fans are being treated to the early reveal of Private Jennifer Redding, a playable female character for the story campaign. Competitive multiplayer modes will also feature male and female characters, along with customizable armor modifications, weapon upgrades, and even the ability to write slogans and messages on your equipment.
It's easy to be skeptical of the claim that female characters were always planed for Aliens: Colonial Marines when <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/trailers/6122-Aliens-Colonial-Marines-Xenos-vs-Marines-Trailer>there is enough content to <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgSHqjwFcd8>create multiple trailers using <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7UBQouJBns>in-game footage while playable females are still in the design stage. Still, that's not nearly as important as the fact that female gamers can don armor and wield flamethrowers against Xenomorph hordes with their female avatars, just like Ripley would have wanted.
Sources: <a href=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-03-aliens-colonial-marines-will-feature-playable-female-characters-in-competitive-multiplayer-and-co-op>Eurogamer
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Ninja'd, that was all I was going to add as well. But it obviously shows some people don't pay attention. Their petition had no real basis considering the devs were doing it all along.Toastngravy said:It's funny because this petition did nothing and now everyone's going to think an internet petition worked.
It didn't. In fact I have no idea where this argument even came from.
Let's just take a look at the box art released in Feb.
Clearly a female character on the box.
And that's admittedly all I care enough about to post. There was also a trailer released back in january that I think two people were just more feminine in appearance than the rest of the characters but not actually female. Hard to tell without getting a good look at them. Regardless. No. The petition didn't do anything. They've always been in and planned for the game. My assumption is that yes, they didn't bother working on them until now because it's just a different model. They don't need both models to be able to test the game. Focus on your priorities.
it was stated there would be a female character in the campaign, but flatout stated that there were no female options in multiplayer.chozo_hybrid said:Ninja'd, that was all I was going to add as well. But it obviously shows some people don't pay attention. Their petition had no real basis considering the devs were doing it all along.Toastngravy said:It's funny because this petition did nothing and now everyone's going to think an internet petition worked.
It didn't. In fact I have no idea where this argument even came from.
Let's just take a look at the box art released in Feb.
Clearly a female character on the box.
And that's admittedly all I care enough about to post. There was also a trailer released back in january that I think two people were just more feminine in appearance than the rest of the characters but not actually female. Hard to tell without getting a good look at them. Regardless. No. The petition didn't do anything. They've always been in and planned for the game. My assumption is that yes, they didn't bother working on them until now because it's just a different model. They don't need both models to be able to test the game. Focus on your priorities.
there were the people who played up some of the undertones of the alien reproduction cycle to scream 'double standards! double standards!' To try and shout the people wanting the option down.Legion said:Did anybody actually not like the idea of female marines? Or was the issue with "gamers demanding new things"?Rainboq said:To all those people out there who don't like this idea, all I can say is:
Not that I think gamers shouldn't be able to express the desire for things in games, it is not like developers have to include them. In this instance, it was just common sense to.
I imagine some people will see this as "caving into whiny fans", but then in my opinion, if developers want to treat their games as art, then they can't treat it as a marketable product as well.
It's "easy to be skeptical of the claim that female characters were always planed for Aliens: Colonial Marines", when "Gearbox producer Brian Burleson stated that Aliens: Colonial Marines' multiplayer modes would exclusively feature playable male characters"!Fanghawk said:*snip*
It's easy to be skeptical of the claim that female characters were always planed for Aliens: Colonial Marines when <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/trailers/6122-Aliens-Colonial-Marines-Xenos-vs-Marines-Trailer>there is enough content to <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgSHqjwFcd8>create multiple trailers using <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7UBQouJBns>in-game footage while playable females are still in the design stage.
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I can't remember where I read it, but that was when they previewed the demo and the demo had no female characters in it, I don't recall them stating it for the full game. I always figured they were going to do it, considering the main protagonist of Aliens in general is a woman.Windknight said:it was stated there would be a female character in the campaign, but flatout stated that there were no female options in multiplayer.chozo_hybrid said:Ninja'd, that was all I was going to add as well. But it obviously shows some people don't pay attention. Their petition had no real basis considering the devs were doing it all along.Toastngravy said:It's funny because this petition did nothing and now everyone's going to think an internet petition worked.
It didn't. In fact I have no idea where this argument even came from.
Let's just take a look at the box art released in Feb.
Clearly a female character on the box.
And that's admittedly all I care enough about to post. There was also a trailer released back in january that I think two people were just more feminine in appearance than the rest of the characters but not actually female. Hard to tell without getting a good look at them. Regardless. No. The petition didn't do anything. They've always been in and planned for the game. My assumption is that yes, they didn't bother working on them until now because it's just a different model. They don't need both models to be able to test the game. Focus on your priorities.
Bring her back anyway.saintdane05 said:I tinks that she is dead at this time.SnootyEnglishman said:It's nice to see that there is a female but where's Vasquez? This game needs more Vasquez!!!!
Just like a woman always wanting to to pay to have her services Cool, humanist win!RaikuFA said:For those asking bout Vasquez and Ripley...
You know its gonna be DLC.
Why would anyone not like female marines? They were in the actual movies? >_>Rainboq said:To all those people out there who don't like this idea, all I can say is:
This has me really excited, definitely going to look into this now.
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