IO Changed Hitman: Absolution Following Nun Controversy

SnakeoilSage

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IO, be honest. You're just surprised we had an opinion that wasn't based on the misogynistic jock-gamer crowd you're obviously trying to peddle to. Those gamers who play God of War and fondle themselves. The kind who play Modern Warfare and can't exhale without making a sexist slur.
 

matrix3509

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Goddamnit IO, we're are not offended just because the women are scantily clad, we (that is, we the fans of Hitman, and therefore the only people whose opinions on the trailer matter in the slightest) are offended because the trailer didn't look like Hitman, it just looked like shitty action schlock with ironic nuns. That is NOT Hitman.

Also: Insert "artistic integrity" here.
 
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DugMachine said:
I really don't get the fuss. Trailer was absolute shite (hehe) but this isn't the first time we've seen overly sexified women in games. Where was all the fuss then?
Simple. Because back them most gamers were younger and didn't care. Sometime between then and now quite a few gamers seem to have gotten fed up with all the sexualized women getting the shit beaten out of them. And now they want something that's not that.

Took a while, but at least it's an issue. Shows the gaming audience is growing and evolving. Now it seems like it's time for games to do the same.
 

EvilMaggot

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Its because IO interactive is from Denmark where we dont get shocked by such tiny things!.. sigh!
 

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Right, because the problem we had with a be-suited dapper white guy pummeling and brutally killing a gang of scantily-clad women was because we just didn't have the full story.

It's a real skill to be able to type out press releases when your head is subterranean.
 

FrostyCoolSlug

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That's the thing though, I couldn't really give a crap whether they were scantly clad or not, the question that came up is simply WHY. Are they a gang which believe women are pure and superior? in which case a nun persona with a dominatrix style under dress wouldn't necessarily be inappropriate.

The issue of context is always an important one, and the point of trailers is to not only show off the games storyline a bit, but make you ask enough questions to consider actually buying the game.

If I buy the game, play through it, and realise it was "sexiness for the sake of sexiness", then I'll happily come back here and apologise, but all I have to go on was a brief trailer with no context at all. All I saw in that video were nuns with guns in fetish ware wanting 47 dead, and 47 preventing that from happening.

Does this trailer put too much focus on "OOH! WOMEN IN LINGERIE!", maybe, and without context maybe that's all it was, but I'll reserve judgement on that until I've actually played the game.
 

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FrostyCoolSlug said:
First impressions are important and i have to tell you i wasn't impressed with the trailer.

Gamers and gaming are growing up and it is obvious they will no longer tolerate juvenile approach of the developers to their hobby and i am happy to see this.
 

DugMachine

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Irridium said:
DugMachine said:
I really don't get the fuss. Trailer was absolute shite (hehe) but this isn't the first time we've seen overly sexified women in games. Where was all the fuss then?
Simple. Because back them most gamers were younger and didn't care. Sometime between then and now quite a few gamers seem to have gotten fed up with all the sexualized women getting the shit beaten out of them. And now they want something that's not that.

Took a while, but at least it's an issue. Shows the gaming audience is growing and evolving. Now it seems like it's time for games to do the same.
Oh yeah I totally get where you're coming from and even now I find most of this dudebro action adventure stuff with millions of wenches at your disposal to be boring.

But there are still TONS of young gamers who get hyped up by stuff like this so while still a shit trailer they're still catering to a younger audience I would think. Would be nice if we could just drop it all but its just marketing
 

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so where is Bob saying that this is holding back gaming as medium? since, you know boobs and guns is an artistic vision
 

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BlindWorg said:
*insert generic rant about game and fictions not having an effect on the real world expect through very unhinged individuals who were crazy even before buying the game*
Seriously? I'd actually go the other way. Unhinged individuals may focus on certain fictions, but, being unhinged, they're just as likely to use one fiction (The Dark Knight) as another (Modern Warfare), so the results would likely be the same whether one fiction existed or not.

Stable individuals, on the other hand, are much more susceptible to the influences of fiction, and fiction is often an indicator of current societal moors. Not in a, "You played Hitman so now you're an assassin," or, "Violent videogames cause real world violence," or even the whole idea that rape jokes cause real world rape.

I'm talking about a much more subtle, "Most things you've ever read, played, or watched treat women as disposable, helpless sex toys that need men to save them and keep them in line," and the cumulative effect that has on a male's ability to relate to and respect women, and a female's ability to respect and empower herself.

For example. Other examples include, "War is awesome if you're white and male," "Fat people are lazy, disgusting, and evil," and, "It's impossible for a woman to rape a man" (with the corollary of, "Male-on-male rape in prison is hilarious.")
 

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I still think the whole thing was overblown, and the only reason it seemed to rustle feathers was because it was a guy fighting women, 'scuse me, scantily clad women. (who mind you had just tried to murder the shit out of him) Leaves me wondering if the reaction would have been the same had the devs used Rambo esque men disguised as a bunch of monks.

Still it's hard to actually care, but something about the logic for why we should be upset just nags at me as rather flawed.
 

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A lot of people don't seem to be grasping the issue of tone. It's not just that it includes violence against absurdly fetishized women, it's that it does so within the kind dark, dour, gritty, serious tone that, in the modern era, carries a connotation of realism. The content of it is absolutely absurd, as it is with a lot of games that do the same things, but other games at least carry a distinct tone of fantasy that acknowledges the absurdity to some degree.
 

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Let's see...the video that offended everyone came out on May 30th. The video showing the backstory of the nuns (and that there was more than one group of them commissioned so, yes folks, they were always part of the game) arrived on July 5th. That means, if what we are told is true, that in the space of five weeks, IO Interactive saw the error of its mysogynistic ways, corralled its arists, and created a two-minute video of identical quality to other backstory videos it had previously released as part of its PR campaign in the hopes of appeasing the public.

Forgive me, Mr. Blystad, but I call bullshit. You already had the backstory written, the video made, and the game finished. You're using the public outrage as a springboard for your own advertising. Don't get me wrong, I think that's quite clever, but could you at least try not to be quite so transparent about it?
 

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Irridium said:
DugMachine said:
I really don't get the fuss. Trailer was absolute shite (hehe) but this isn't the first time we've seen overly sexified women in games. Where was all the fuss then?
Simple. Because back them most gamers were younger and didn't care. Sometime between then and now quite a few gamers seem to have gotten fed up with all the sexualized women getting the shit beaten out of them. And now they want something that's not that.

Took a while, but at least it's an issue. Shows the gaming audience is growing and evolving. Now it seems like it's time for games to do the same.
Scuse me, could you tell me which game I need to play to beat up scantily clad women getting the shit beaten out of?
And please, none that fight back, since then it's not "beating the shit out of" anymore.
 

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matrix3509 said:
Goddamnit IO, we're are not offended just because the women are scantily clad, we (that is, we the fans of Hitman, and therefore the only people whose opinions on the trailer matter in the slightest) are offended because the trailer didn't look like Hitman, it just looked like shitty action schlock with ironic nuns. That is NOT Hitman.

Also: Insert "artistic integrity" here.
Actually a lot of those who are offended are. I am not offended by the trailer. I just find it incredibly retarded.

Step 1: hire people to assassinate someone.
Step 2: Make them disguise themselves in order to avoid raising suspicion.
Step 3: Make them travel to the place in a big group in a suspicious van so it can't possibly go unnoticed.
Step 4: Have the disguised assassins remove their disguises, abandon stealth and fire at random using explosives.
 

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Xid Satled said:
EvilMaggot said:
Its because IO interactive is from Denmark where we dont get shocked by such tiny things!.. sigh!
I hope you're serious.
does a smith work with metals?! yeah im freaking serious! Denmark - first country in the WORLD! to legalize porn.. we are not easily shocked.. Fack yeah!