IQ

[blindey]

IQ test are bullshit, and the worst part is that the result you get from one test cant be compared to a result from a diferent iq test.

on one test the score of 100 where as good as braindead, and at another the scores above 100 where Einstein level. like my iq is 115 by one test i took in Norway, but i cant compare that to an american or british iq test result.

Uh...What? 100 is the median IQ aka normal, average. Here's a handy chart. It's gonna look basically the same wherever you get it. http://chile.galangal.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/picture-30.png

anyone got a link to an online one? It might be interesting to see whereabouts we are on that particular spectrum.

Just no. Online ones are a crock, aren't standardized. That's why a psychologist/professional gives you one and not joebob from down the street. A lot of universities and such have them as part of the counseling/psychological services or you can just ask a psychologist to give you one I guess.

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Huzzah fellow psychology students unite! :3

 

[ThreeWords]

I I have learning disabilities and I have never felt that IQ tests shown anything. I've had to take so many of the damn things over the years. Those stupid blocks get me every time. I have ADHD and NLD and very poor spacial reasoning, which IQ tests reflect.

Uh, that's kind of the point.

IQ test were first designed to point out people with learning disabilities, or other conditions, like autism. They're meant to be difficult for people who aren't the 'norm', so if you have ADHD and NLD, and you don't do very well, then they're actually working well

I should also point out that it's not a competition. Getting a low score is not failing, but showing things about how your brain works. If your learning disabilities stop you scoring high, then all it should do is help you get the right kind help to aid you with your disabilities.

Sorry if I sound like I'm against people with learning disabilities. I'm not, I and most of my family have varying degrees of AS.

 

[TheEvilDuck]

I I have learning disabilities and I have never felt that IQ tests shown anything. I've had to take so many of the damn things over the years. Those stupid blocks get me every time. I have ADHD and NLD and very poor spacial reasoning, which IQ tests reflect.

Uh, that's kind of the point.

IQ test were first designed to point out people with learning disabilities, or other conditions, like autism. They're meant to be difficult for people who aren't the 'norm', so if you have ADHD and NLD, and you don't do very well, then they're actually working well

I should also point out that it's not a competition. Getting a low score is not failing, but showing things about how your brain works. If your learning disabilities stop you scoring high, then all it should do is help you get the right kind help to aid you with your disabilities.

Sorry if I sound like I'm against people with learning disabilities. I'm not, I and most of my family have varying degrees of AS.

There are many MANY other tests better designed to identify learning disabilities, most are better specialized and used mostly on younger children. For example there's a non reading oriented test to identify Dyslexia using ability to identify symbols quickly and break up syllables. This is an almost sure fire way of identifying Dyslexia in kids as young as five.

IQ tests don't allow the tester to ID the problem, it just shows there is a problem and can really be a blow to self-esteem. In other words, there are many other options. Also, it's fairly easy to identify a kid with learning disabilities without IQ tests. Psychiatric evaluations, surveys by parents and teachers, specialized testing (like the dyslexia test mentioned above) are all good ways to do it.

 

[A Raging Emo]

IQ tests are only a measure of how good you are at IQ tests.

I never thoguht of that.

 

[megalomania]

Exactly this... IQ tests are culturaly biased pointless tests that prove nothing.

Culturally biased LMAO! Could you please explain how a IQ test is culturally biased?

An IQ isn't based on anything you have learned in school so it 'should' produce a Gaussian distribution of results no matter who takes it!

 

[ChaoticLegion]

Exactly this... IQ tests are culturaly biased pointless tests that prove nothing.

Culturally biased LMAO! Could you please explain how a IQ test is culturally biased?

An IQ isn't based on anything you have learned in school so it 'should' produce a Gaussian distribution of results no matter who takes it!

Yes I'd be happy to... IQ tests created in different places are structured around the norms of that particular area... for instance an Eastern IQ test would be much different to the IQ tests westeners use. Culturaly biased tests such as this are not a viable way to measure someones intelligence.

 

[Neonbob]

You're justified. If you don't know what your strengths and weaknesses are just by living your life, then the results of a test aren't really going to help.

I see that your into the same Whale Nuking cause as me!

Just take the test. How bad can it be?

Yes...I despise those stupid water-loving creatures...they should all be exterminated with multi-megaton thermonuclear warheads. And it would make such a lovely show, too!

 

[dwightsteel]

IQ stands for Intelligence Quotient. It doesn't determine how smart you are, merely how adept you are at learning things and picking up patterns. I've met a person with an IQ of 143 (a genius) who is one of the dumbest people I've ever met, because he doesn't bother trying to learn anything.
A lot of time Psychologists will recommend that you take an IQ test so he can understand why you might think the way you do. People with higher IQ's, more often than not, have more complex higher reasoning skills. It MIGHT give them some insight as to your decision making process.

People have to remember though, that psychology is not an exact science.

 

[CIA]

Recently my parents decided I needed to see a psychologist. Fine. I don?t mind talking to a professional about school, grades, and the like, but he suggested I get an IQ test to ?let you know your strengths and weaknesses.? I am quite certain that I know my strengths and weaknesses myself, and I see absolutely no reason why I should get arbitrary numbers telling me what I?m good at.

Am I justified, or is this completely irrational?

If you're looking for ammunition on why not to take the test I suggest to you that you're psychologist may have offered this test to see how you react to testing. If so, then you're not going to prove anything by questioning his motivations or legitimacy of the test.

There is nothing sinister about IQ tests, take it and do your best. At the very least it will prove to your parents that you're willing to try harder to do better at school.

I will take any standardized test at the drop of a hat, which is to say I've already taken the test. I just don't want to see my score. I don't think I'll like it either way.

I don't understand how some number can shake me up so bad. Its infuriating.

Heh, maybe I need a livejournal.

 

[megalomania]

Exactly this... IQ tests are culturaly biased pointless tests that prove nothing.

Culturally biased LMAO! Could you please explain how a IQ test is culturally biased?

An IQ isn't based on anything you have learned in school so it 'should' produce a Gaussian distribution of results no matter who takes it!

Yes I'd be happy to... IQ tests created in different places are structured around the norms of that particular area... for instance an Eastern IQ test would be much different to the IQ tests westeners use. Culturaly biased tests such as this are not a viable way to measure someones intelligence.

Wow that didn't answer my question at all. Got any evidence? I have some for you, but I still disagree: Word and letter based questions are pretty common in 'western' IQ tests, and obviously this particular type of puzzle wont work in the pictographic languages of eastern cultures or probably arabic for that matter, but I'm sure they have their own versions. Anyway, the rest of the test isn't based on cultural norms, e.g spatial reasoning questions 'What Shape Comes Next?'. I agree that cultural based tests are probably not good tests of intelligence, but I refute that IQ is a cultural test.

I fancy extending your argument a little. If a cultural measure of intelligence is intrinsically wrong you have just successfully rendered everybody in the worlds' history degree simultaneously worthless. A history degree from the UK will inevitably deal (mostly) with UK matters, as would one from Japan deal with Japanese matters. Because each degree is only a level of the intelligence of somebody with respect to the culture in which they studied it is useless. Reductio ad absurdum.

 

[beholdmycape]

IQ tests are only a measure of how good you are at IQ tests.

Yeah, and being good at IQ tests is generally considered to be an indicator of above average intelligence.
What's your point?

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

If someone tells you you aren't smart, especially an "official" type person, you will become less smart. You will doubt your abilities more and have less confidence. You're in the right for not wanting an IQ test.

 

[ThreeWords]

Exactly this... IQ tests are culturaly biased pointless tests that prove nothing.

Culturally biased LMAO! Could you please explain how a IQ test is culturally biased?

An IQ isn't based on anything you have learned in school so it 'should' produce a Gaussian distribution of results no matter who takes it!

Yes I'd be happy to... IQ tests created in different places are structured around the norms of that particular area... for instance an Eastern IQ test would be much different to the IQ tests westeners use. Culturaly biased tests such as this are not a viable way to measure someones intelligence.

As I said, by complete coincidence, I took an IQ test yesterday, and it was almost all based on patterns, memory, or reasoning. The only things that were even remotely culture related were:

*Reasoning as to why certain parts of society are as they are (eg why should the police wear uniforms?)

*Links between ideas or concepts (eg what is the link between paper and rubber?)

*Choosing two items that are related from a group (eg a candle and a lamp, because they both give light)

All these might, just might, be effected by being asked in a different culture, but it is easily remedied by a swift change of circumstance. It would, however, not effect the results, because they are design to asses understanding of society and how people interact (no 1), and reasoning and processing capabilities (nos 2 and 3)

 

[Aunel]

IQ tests just give a result of how good you are at the test, intelligence is not something you can put a number on.

 

[Jack and Calumon]

If you want an IQ test just wait until "Test the Nation" comes back on.

If you're not British then just do the test.

 

[Kedcom]

IQ tests don't tell you anything about several other forms of intelligence such as emotional intelligence (i.e. empathy) or spatial intelligence (i.e. how good you are at interacting with your physical surroundings). I'm damn sure David Beckham would come lower in a normal IQ test than most of us (he really isn't the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to academic stuff) yet he can place a freekick pretty much wherever he wants to, is renowned for his friendly personality and he's got about 400 brazillion pounds in the bank through canny marketing deals and contracts. Does he give two monkeys how his IQ comes out on one of these tests? I very much doubt it and more power to him for that!

 

[AkJay]

IQ tests are only a measure of how good you are at IQ tests.

I Lol'd

 

[xLANKYx]

If you want an IQ test just wait until "Test the Nation" comes back on.

If you're not British then just do the test.

LOL, i remember that. there was 4 sections if i remember correctly - i did perfect in 2 sections & very good in 1 section but then the maths section killed me, i think i got 1 or 2 questions correct, lol

 

[Grimm91]

The test is "meant" to tell you your level of intelligence but its really just a pointless waste of time.

 

[vamp rocks]

is it an IQ test in the sense where you get a number? like for example my IQ is 124, or is it one that gives you detailed aspects of your personality based on extensive questioning and practical tasks.. at my school we did one of those, sort of a career aptitude test, but waaaaaaaay more detailed... and that was actually quite good in determining intellectual streangths and weaknesses...

lol my point?

if its the extensive one, definitely do it.. its useful...

if its the number one... forget it. you may be interested to know but it is in no way going to show you your streangths and weaknesses...