Iran Blocks Facebook Access

Jamous

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O...K... Why only facebook? I'm sure there are more, significantly more dangerous sites to ban... Somewhere...
 

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Jamous said:
O...K... Why only facebook? I'm sure there are more, significantly more dangerous sites to ban... Somewhere...
Facebook has this whole viral thing going on where as soon as one supporter joins a group, thousands of them will end up joining out of interest. Plus even my mom has facebook, thats how popular it is these days.

Im guessing Mr. Ahmedinejad is sick of Mousav sending him a ton of requests for "Water fight request, click here to throw a water balloon at Ahmedinejad".
 

Therumancer

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Well strictly speaking my major issue is the fact that the companies running sites light this are playing along enough to allow goverments to control information. Since I feel the future of the planet is dependant on the spread of ideas, both pleasant and unpleasant, we should be taking hard core action to prevent anyone from blocking access to information. This includes Iran, and even more importantly China.

Truthfully I think that the purpose of diplomacy and negotiation has failed when such negotiation puts an end to futher ideas and dialogue.

Or at least such are my thoughts here. I'm not sure who actually runs Facebook, but I think the goverment should be taking action to ensure that nations can't block it off like this. This might lead to other kinds of bans, but those will in turn lead to resistance, and the spread of ideas continueing even more fervently underground.

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Therumancer said:
Well strictly speaking my major issue is the fact that the companies running sites light this are playing along enough to allow goverments to control information. Since I feel the future of the planet is dependant on the spread of ideas, both pleasant and unpleasant, we should be taking hard core action to prevent anyone from blocking access to information. This includes Iran, and even more importantly China.

Truthfully I think that the purpose of diplomacy and negotiation has failed when such negotiation puts an end to futher ideas and dialogue.

Or at least such are my thoughts here. I'm not sure who actually runs Facebook, but I think the goverment should be taking action to ensure that nations can't block it off like this. This might lead to other kinds of bans, but those will in turn lead to resistance, and the spread of ideas continueing even more fervently underground.

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I'm a little confused, which government should be taking action?
 

Therumancer

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nilcypher said:
Therumancer said:
Well strictly speaking my major issue is the fact that the companies running sites light this are playing along enough to allow goverments to control information. Since I feel the future of the planet is dependant on the spread of ideas, both pleasant and unpleasant, we should be taking hard core action to prevent anyone from blocking access to information. This includes Iran, and even more importantly China.

Truthfully I think that the purpose of diplomacy and negotiation has failed when such negotiation puts an end to futher ideas and dialogue.

Or at least such are my thoughts here. I'm not sure who actually runs Facebook, but I think the goverment should be taking action to ensure that nations can't block it off like this. This might lead to other kinds of bans, but those will in turn lead to resistance, and the spread of ideas continueing even more fervently underground.

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I'm a little confused, which government should be taking action?

Well that would be the United States goverment ultimatly. I am not sure who actually runs Facebook or where they are located. If an American run company then the US needs to get on them, if a company in another country then the US needs to get on that goverment and presure them into not letting Iran cut them off. Whatever it takes basically.

But then again I felt the same way when Google cut a deal with China to allow the chinese goverment to censor their content for political reasons and such. I sort of felt Google needed to be slapped down hard.

See, without action being taken against major information service providers they are going to do whatever it takes to reach into these nations to pimp advertising or whatever since that is how they make their money. There is however a principle involved that goes beyond that and as they are providing a service of sorts, part of that service includes not giving in to such goverments during peacetime.

I mean honestly I can't see firing cruise missles or sub tactical nukes into Tehran over Facebook, but it's a big enough issue where I definatly think life should be made exceedingly difficult for whomever DOES make desicians for that group until they decide that they are going to push into those nations uncensored no matter what the goverment thinks about it.

Honestly, we spent a long time dealing with the effects of the USSR's "Iron Curtain" and we're foolish to allow other nations to try and do (or continue doing in China's case) the same thing.

I mean when you get down to it they want to stop the flow of information because it is likely to lead to pro-democratic/anti-theocratic sentiments as much as anything.


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nilcypher said:
The general consensus seems to be that the site has been blocked to prevent the rivals of current President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad from using it to reach their supporters, especially ex-prime minister Mir Hossein Mousav (pictured), who is seen as a particular threat to Ahmedinejad's presidency. Mousav's Facebook page has more than 5000 supporters.
What they won't tell you is that they really blocked the site to keep Ahmedinejad from wasting so much time taking "Friend Qwizzes [sic]."

"Is Osama bin Laden a good kisser?" "YES!"

One of his latest updates took place while the site was available again:

"just had moron who had the idea to block facebook beheaded lolz retardddddd :) :) :)"
 

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The only thing I'm surprised at is that they're just doing this now. Knowing Ahmadinejad, I'd have thought he would have half of the internet blocked by now.

I'd say no Facebook access is the least of Iran's worries right now.
 

NeoAC

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Sounds like someone had 0 friends......

That's why myspace isn't banned, at least there Mahmoud has Tom.
 

dalek sec

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Well considering who we're talking about it's not exactly a shocker to me. Besides, Facebooks is rubbish anyhow.
 

maddawg IAJI

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Well I wanted Myspace and Facebook gone forever but I'll take this small victory. Iran maybe you aren't so bad after all.
 

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There will be other online ways to reach your supporters. Twitter, Myspace, campaign webpages, etc...

They shouldn't censor this, obviously, but I can understand why they view it as a threat.
 

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NeoAC said:
Sounds like someone had 0 friends......

That's why myspace isn't banned, at least there Mahmoud has Tom.
Ah, but it is filtered in China and kept under tough surveillance for anything political.
 

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The source couldn't even spell Teheran correctly :(

Anyways, it seems weird - just banning a site that is popular with young people in a country where the average person is ~25 years old (correct me if I'm wrong, but it should be around that number). I don't think Ahmadinejad (another mistake, geez) has any problems getting voted for by the conservatives, but oh well, he should know better. Obviously his country has no problems with the flood of drugs that come over from Afghanistan.

Erana said:
The_Oracle said:
Erana said:
I blame the US and Britian, in the big picture.
This is their/our fault how, exactly?
This. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_the_Shah's_Men]
They would prolly have had a lot more freedom if we hadn't stamped out their earlier attempts at democracy...
That book makes me crave waffles.
Thanks for the tip :p I'll check that one out. But don't blame yourself, I doubt you were around there at the time.
 

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The_Oracle said:
Erana said:
I blame the US and Britian, in the big picture.
This is their/our fault how, exactly?
Actually...

There where loads of news and articles about how Iran was loosening up restrictions on its people. The goverment was losing its grasp, people felt freer then ever before, people where pushing (as they always will) for there freedoms we take for granted in other countries. Left to its own devices I think the country could have continued that trend and seen great social reform.

The very close to home unrest in the middle east has had a great effect on this. The country has lost any traces of the social reform that was starting to take place.
 

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nova18 said:
Jamous said:
O...K... Why only facebook? I'm sure there are more, significantly more dangerous sites to ban... Somewhere...
Facebook has this whole viral thing going on where as soon as one supporter joins a group, thousands of them will end up joining out of interest. Plus even my mom has facebook, thats how popular it is these days.

Im guessing Mr. Ahmedinejad is sick of Mousav sending him a ton of requests for "Water fight request, click here to throw a water balloon at Ahmedinejad".
I am enlightened.