Absolutely all of this is true for me as well, except for two things:Sonic Doctor said:I feel you. I'm in the same boat, except that I'm at the already out of college point with no place that will hire me.Ossian said:*Snip*
I would ask you, how many jobs have you held?
The reason I ask is that with the way the employers are these days, you are only going to get a job for two reasons:
1.) You have already been in the work force for a good bit, 5 years minimum, 3 years if you are lucky. They value people that have experience, doesn't matter if the person they are hiring is dumber than a box of rocks and hasn't been to college, they will hire that person because they have a work history.
2.) You could be fresh out of high school with no work history, but still get hired if you have connections within a company. (I've seen that shit way too many times.)
Now I've only had one job at a grocery store for two different summers. The reason I can't get hired is because of that.
I did graduate from college with a B.S., but it doesn't matter because employers look at education last. If you don't have the experience in the front, you aren't going to get hired. Even if the experience they are looking for is experience that you got in college, it won't matter. I guarantee that what you will encounter is that 9 out of 10 employers are going spit on your college record and tell you it is worth crap. The other one in that list will push your college aside and say, "Well to us, your 4 years of college counts as 2 years of experience, but we are looking for 3 years of experience, so sorry we can't hire you.
The problem I'm running into is that I'm even having trouble getting in simple retail or other not education required jobs because I do have an education. They get intimidated that I can actually think an point out problems in there systems. They want somebody that is brain-dead stupid that won't ask questions.
One pointer I will give you, if you get called in for some retail job interview, let's say stocking shelves at Wal-Mart. Don't come dressed in your best, go in with whatever dirty mess you might have on the floor. True story, I came into Wal-Mart interview dressed nice. I have some experience stocking shelves. Next to me was some teenager with jeans that had holes in it, a hole in his shirt and stains all over. I asked the kid if he had ever had a job, he said no. Not long after the interview, I found out they hired the kid over me. I had the experience and looked proper. But that was the problem, at places like Wal-Mart, they want people that are uneducated, people that they can quickly initiate and keep under their fingers.
Just keep looking, I always say, "I'm bound to find someone that actually has a brain and will hire me." Seriously, the hiring system that employers have these days isn't a real hiring system. Just remember college will mean nothing if you don't have years of experience. Knowledge and experience from college =/= Experience in the real messed up world. If you see an internship in something you are wanting to do, do your best get it. But with how hard it is to get internships these days, you are most likely going to have to bribe, cheat, and kill to get it, and practically know the internship exists before the people that are selecting for it know that it exists.
1) I have a B.A. instead of a B.S., which means I am probably even worse off.
2) I would say employers do value education, but nowadays, a Bachelor's is just not enough anymore. If you have a Bachelor's degree, you are going to be the worst off of anyone in today's job market. NOTHING out there today is asking for someone with a bachelor's degree. It's either the jobs that don't require higher education (your manual labor/retail jobs) or they want at least a Master's degree. And as you said, if you apply for either of those with a Bachelor's, you aren't going to get jack without experience. I am in the exact same position right now, but I just don't have the money to be able to go back home and go into grad school.
So I am in the same whirlpool as the OP:
And due to having to pay off my student loans from my first degree, a part time job won't be enough to support me. I am so screwed...Ossian said:Can't get a job without school > can't go to school without a job > can't get a job without a car > can't get a car without a job.