I guess we've all sort of thought that Facebook is using our data for means that we didn't want, and they were reading our messages, but now that it's official...it's really awful. I haven't deleted my account yet, but considering it. Thing is, there isn't anything as useful or large as Facebook. did anyone delete their account?
Is anyone continuing to use Facebook?
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I held out against it for the longest time.
The thing was that my paternal grandfather, and definitely my paternal great grandfather (quite a mouthful, against the Swedish Gammelfarfar "elder-father-father") are from a place 50 miles north of here. Though my paternal grandmother is from 50-ish miles south of here, all their children moved back north. My father as well, though lastly.
The only real way to stay in easy contact was through facebook, which they frequently use themselves on their ipads and iphones (ugh, brr).
After that I only logged in for a few minutes a day to see if anything family related had transpired.
After 2014 it became more..political. Started following a lot of happenings.
Then another relative moved away. 50 miles south this time.
And now I'm in two hobby-groups. One for finding and identifying mushrooms, the other for finding and collecting coins.
Those few minutes turned into an hour a day all too easy.
There are alternatives, like VK.com and Minds.com but the major problem is getting people to migrate, or join other such sites as well.
Oh yes. The personal integrity and data collection thing.
All too few think of it. I only put out things I feel comfortable sharing with everyone.
No address,no phone number, etc.
Only first and last name on facebook and one photo. No more.
I use several different aliases/handles throughout the internet.
Another big thing is the password. A lot of people use the same one everywhere (together with name).
That is a disaster. I use different ones on each. One part personal, one part related, no part word.
The thing was that my paternal grandfather, and definitely my paternal great grandfather (quite a mouthful, against the Swedish Gammelfarfar "elder-father-father") are from a place 50 miles north of here. Though my paternal grandmother is from 50-ish miles south of here, all their children moved back north. My father as well, though lastly.
The only real way to stay in easy contact was through facebook, which they frequently use themselves on their ipads and iphones (ugh, brr).
After that I only logged in for a few minutes a day to see if anything family related had transpired.
After 2014 it became more..political. Started following a lot of happenings.
Then another relative moved away. 50 miles south this time.
And now I'm in two hobby-groups. One for finding and identifying mushrooms, the other for finding and collecting coins.
Those few minutes turned into an hour a day all too easy.
There are alternatives, like VK.com and Minds.com but the major problem is getting people to migrate, or join other such sites as well.
Oh yes. The personal integrity and data collection thing.
All too few think of it. I only put out things I feel comfortable sharing with everyone.
No address,no phone number, etc.
Only first and last name on facebook and one photo. No more.
I use several different aliases/handles throughout the internet.
Another big thing is the password. A lot of people use the same one everywhere (together with name).
That is a disaster. I use different ones on each. One part personal, one part related, no part word.
I still have a Facebook account, but I can't even remember the last time I posted anything myself and I was never very active to begin with. As for personal data, there's nothing in there you couldn't easily find out some other way. Just my name and birthday, and the email I used to sign up (which is now defunct).
It's useful. University events and different student groups are neatly ordered. Nowadays rarely just browse my Facebook wall, because of the learning algorithms showing me the same stuff all the time. Anyway, the EU data protection legislation is coming into effect on the 25th of May. FB will have to update the data management tools for each user. We'll see what really changes.
EDIT: I've never used Messenger or the Facebook mobile app, and with the recent news I'm glad I haven't.
EDIT: I've never used Messenger or the Facebook mobile app, and with the recent news I'm glad I haven't.
Hmm, you were born in 1985. So that makes him... kinda old. I think I know the guy.Vendor-Lazarus said:
I haven't been paying attention to the news. So it's official that they're doing that eh? I actually don't touch my Facebook that often. I'm kinda scared of what I'll find if I go there between CBC news which I somehow ended up following and some of the political crap my friends post.
To this day, I never had and I never will make a Facebook account.
I was a hipster back in the day thinking Facebook is dumb, we have Cell-phones for communication, so why need facebook and twitter?
I was a hipster back in the day thinking Facebook is dumb, we have Cell-phones for communication, so why need facebook and twitter?
Yes? What do I care? Not like I put anything I expect to be private on a social network.
Spying on chat is a bit more concerning, but even without any data sharing it's not like end to end encryption was ever advertised as a feature (right?), so the same reasoning applies. At the very least, the assumption was always that your "private" conversations were subject to Facebook's internal perusal.
Facebook is a tool, use your tools with discretion and use the right tool for the job.
Spying on chat is a bit more concerning, but even without any data sharing it's not like end to end encryption was ever advertised as a feature (right?), so the same reasoning applies. At the very least, the assumption was always that your "private" conversations were subject to Facebook's internal perusal.
Facebook is a tool, use your tools with discretion and use the right tool for the job.
I find it too useful for keeping up with friends, plus events.
That and the LARPs I join typically organize over facebook, so if I want information about what's going on, or getting some sweet "downtime" action, I kinda need to be on it.
So I'm kinda stuck. :s
That and the LARPs I join typically organize over facebook, so if I want information about what's going on, or getting some sweet "downtime" action, I kinda need to be on it.
So I'm kinda stuck. :s
Part of the problem is the Facebook app on the phone listens in to phone-calls, emails and texts, even outside of Facebook. You use What'sApp for messaging, Facebook is taking a copy of those messages. You place a call, Facebook is logging to whom and for how long. You send an email, Facebook makes a copy.Jadak said:
Hell it came out Facebook was tracking people who didn't even have a Facebook through phone apps!
As for myself I deleted my Facebook account back in '06 after an argument with my then girlfriend who wanted my password so she could change whatever she wanted, delete photos and unfriend people she didn't like, all on my behalf, to make us a better couple. It was either her or Facebook, so I choose neither and haven't looked back since. And with the current news, I don't feel bad about it.
Never used it once. I always new that it would become a worse version of MySpace. At this point, Facebook is about to be as dead as MySpace.
The way it worked was the Facebook app comes pre-installed on phones, and cannot be uninstalled. And even without activating the app, without logging into Facebook through the app or creating a Facebook using the app, the app was already tracking phone usage.RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
So lets say you get a new iPhone. The facebook app goes 'Oh hey, Riseofthewhitewolf's new iPhone is on! Lets just see what he's doing and send his contacts back to facebook. He thinks that if he never uses me I can't track him, teehee'
It was very very insidious and Facebook still hasn't answered how it was legal and how its not stealing private data.
I deactivated my account before this even happened.
The place is just filled with narcissists, showboaters and political activists who think they are morally superior. It's just turned into one big circle jerk where your either in the clique or youv tuned them out or unfollowed anyway.
Besides I don't want to see your baby, food or your legs on some random beach thanks, I'm good.
The place is just filled with narcissists, showboaters and political activists who think they are morally superior. It's just turned into one big circle jerk where your either in the clique or youv tuned them out or unfollowed anyway.
Besides I don't want to see your baby, food or your legs on some random beach thanks, I'm good.
I deleted my account back when I first realized that Facebook had the ethical standards of the Gambino family, maybe ten years or so ago, and I wasn't on it for very long in the first place. If you do decide to bail on them (and good for you if you do!), bear in mind that you'll likely find it trickier than I did; some people didn't bother responding to the emails I sent, and I've since lost contact with them, and things have only gotten worse since then. You'll find a surprising amount of content gated off behind Facebook's walls- for example, I had a devil of a time in the election last month because several candidates only kept a Facebook page. If I ignore them, am I being practical, or just spiteful?
The are alternatives out there, but while you may persuade a handful of people to set up new accounts, they're not likely to stick to them. Facebook, like EA, has its potential customers divided into two groups: for the first group, it doesn't matter what the company does, they'll stick with it. For the second group, it doesn't matter what the company does, they've already left. (Truth be told, I don't even know what they've done this time; I'm guessing it's yet another massive privacy violation.) My point is, you're not likely to see a massive exodus. Should you leave? Yes, absolutely; even if this particular case isn't especially heinous, sending the message that you have standards is a good thing to do, but you're likely to become a bit more isolated than you already are.
The are alternatives out there, but while you may persuade a handful of people to set up new accounts, they're not likely to stick to them. Facebook, like EA, has its potential customers divided into two groups: for the first group, it doesn't matter what the company does, they'll stick with it. For the second group, it doesn't matter what the company does, they've already left. (Truth be told, I don't even know what they've done this time; I'm guessing it's yet another massive privacy violation.) My point is, you're not likely to see a massive exodus. Should you leave? Yes, absolutely; even if this particular case isn't especially heinous, sending the message that you have standards is a good thing to do, but you're likely to become a bit more isolated than you already are.
I doubt you're on any watch list. There actually aren't nearly as many as people think there are, and most of the time they tell you your on this list or that, and those lists come with legal restrictions, like the No Fly List or the Terrorist Watch List. And having TOR and doing darkweb stuff isn't nearly enough. Watch Lists and active surveillance are expensive to maintain, and are meant to lead to prosecutions, so unless you're doing actively illegal things online and think the van at the end of the block is watching you in preparation for a raid next week, you're fine.RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
I should probably add two more relevant things.
I've never posted a Status update..thingie. Ever.
I only comment and like others posts.
I also don't own a smartphone. At least not one with an internet connection. An old one used as a camera mainly.
I would still be using my Nokia 3510i if it wasn't for the bad charging connection. Had to stand it up, weighing down onto the connector to even get it to charge at the end.
http://www.s21.com/images/nokia3510i.gif
So now I'm using a Samsung GTE 1080 instead.
https://mobilarena.hu/dl/cnt/2010-01/55236/e1080_1.jpg
I was fortunate to meet both my "gammelfarfar" and "gammelmormor" before they died.
I think I was around 15 when they passed.
I even have a picture of me, my father, my "farfar" and my "gammelfarfar" together in one.
Same with my mother, my "mormor" and my "gammelmormor".
Should probably scan them for the future. Future-proofing the past. ^^
I've never posted a Status update..thingie. Ever.
I only comment and like others posts.
I also don't own a smartphone. At least not one with an internet connection. An old one used as a camera mainly.
I would still be using my Nokia 3510i if it wasn't for the bad charging connection. Had to stand it up, weighing down onto the connector to even get it to charge at the end.
http://www.s21.com/images/nokia3510i.gif
So now I'm using a Samsung GTE 1080 instead.
https://mobilarena.hu/dl/cnt/2010-01/55236/e1080_1.jpg
Not quite, but doesn't all old people look alike? ,)McElroy said:Hmm, you were born in 1985. So that makes him... kinda old. I think I know the guy.Vendor-Lazarus said:
I was fortunate to meet both my "gammelfarfar" and "gammelmormor" before they died.
I think I was around 15 when they passed.
I even have a picture of me, my father, my "farfar" and my "gammelfarfar" together in one.
Same with my mother, my "mormor" and my "gammelmormor".
Should probably scan them for the future. Future-proofing the past. ^^
I have an account, i talk to one person and all my details are fake and created just for that account. My friend knows who i am, i just dont trust FB with any of my real information. People need to get on with a real life an use FB once a week or when they have something interesting to say. But people live their whole life on it, faking things to make out their life is good. Obsessing about their friends lives....."friends" that they have never met and never will. Its pathetic. When you turn your laptop or phone off and you have no friends......then you need to sort your real life. Friends online are not real when your alone offline.