Is attempted suicide a crime?

[rutger5000]

Dunno how it is in the rest of the world. But in the Netherlands you can be forced to go into an institution if you're a danger for your environment or yourself. So maybe it isn't a crime, but you can still be locked away for it.
Also ought to depend on the methode of the attempted suicide. Those who jump before trains and stuff ought to be put down in the most painfull way imaginable.

 

[AnarchistFish]

Not in my country (England), though Assisted suicide is still unfortunately illegal. One day we will progress forward past the bullshit Religion has shackled us with and people can die with dignity.

It isn't illegal because of religion though

 

[RagTagBand]

Not in my country (England), though Assisted suicide is still unfortunately illegal. One day we will progress forward past the bullshit Religion has shackled us with and people can die with dignity.

It isn't illegal because of religion though

Anti-suicide (and quite specifically Anti-assisted suicide) laws developed from the religious belief that only God can decide when a life should end.

 

[AnarchistFish]

Not in my country (England), though Assisted suicide is still unfortunately illegal. One day we will progress forward past the bullshit Religion has shackled us with and people can die with dignity.

It isn't illegal because of religion though

Anti-suicide (and quite specifically Anti-assisted suicide) laws developed from the religious belief that only God can decide when a life should end.

But they've been continued for separate reasons.

 

[StompinPaul]

I think where it's a crime, it's a crime in the following sense: it's something people agree is something one shouldn't be doing, to such a degree that state institutions are allowed or even forced sometimes to take action to stop the person attempting.
I would imagine that the 'punishment' in this case would usually be something like court ordered therapy or similar rather than more traditional fines or jail time.
I think the rationale for this is that in too many cases, someone commits suicide thinking things are terrible when they really aren't bad enough to warrant suicide, and as such the default is assumed to be that anyone who attempts isn't in the right state of mind to make the decision.
That is crime as distinct from something morally wrong.

Whether it's really amoral is a different question entirely, and to me depends on cost benefit: does the person and those around them truly benefit from the person's death? Or does is actually cause more harm?

 

[OmniscientOstrich]

Aww, come on man! You've taken away any reason I might have had to comment on this thread! You're a meanie, and I will tell my mom about you.

Oh noes! Not Mrs. Rustler! D:

 

[Olivia Faraday]

Suicide is murder in the same way that masturbation is rape. The crime lies in the lack of consent and enforcing your will on someone else's life in a damaging or destructive way.

Suicide is obviously not cool and it would be better if people tried not to do it, but calling it a crime is silly.

 

[him over there]

Obviously it depends on where you live, plus it's the only crime you can be arrested for attempting but not committing.

 

[Patrick Buck]

Yes. /thread
But seriously, yeah it is. Not saying it should be, but according to the law (Of at least where I live) it is.
To be honest, I would rather people didn't kill themselves, But I don't see how it is a crime. As long as they don't do it in a way that will harm others, hey. It's their life. /Bad pun/

 

[razuk]

Suicide is a crime punishable by death.

 

[AnarchistFish]

Where do all these people saying it's illegal live?

 

[nathan-dts]

In some places you can get fined and before you think we'll I'll be dead so f them. No, the fine will transfer to your family.

However, there are other places that have you committed. Which I find appropriate. Look these places have gotten better. They are no longer the horror stories they used to be.

Suicide is a legitimate measure to take in life. Suicide shouldn't be a cause of commiting someone. Self harm sans suicide is reason for psychological evaluation. Suicide achieves something were as cutting doesn't.

 

[Zen Toombs]

In some places it is, but it honestly shouldn't be. Any punishment you give to suicide doesn't make sense, and only serves to embolden suicide-ees to attempt suicide in ways that are more likely to result in their death.

[small]Fun fact: Most people don't want others to commit suicide.[/small]

 

[Sandytimeman]

if attempted suicide was a crime team sonic would have been locked up years ago? HAY-OH!...but no seriously your only hurting yourself so it shouldn't be a crime.

 

[Luciella]

Its just a case to be jailed in a mental institution PROBABLY.

 

[KingHodor]

Where I am, I think they kind of "reserve the right" to jail you if the suicide attempt is an illegal drug overdose, but I've never known them to enforce it. It will, however, get you involuntarily committed. That's not fun. The people in the state hospital are fucking crazy! Although, it's a great place to go if you want to feel completely sane.

I knew one guy who was put on a high dose of Haloperidol after his attempted suicide - by almost completely blocking your dopamine receptors, it removes one's ability to even want to do anything, in addition to reducing your motor skills to that of a Parkinson's patient.
Then again, the "good" thing about antipsychotics is that they also decrease your ability to give a shit about anything, including their horrible side-effects.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

In some places you can get fined and before you think we'll I'll be dead so f them. No, the fine will transfer to your family.

However, there are other places that have you committed. Which I find appropriate. Look these places have gotten better. They are no longer the horror stories they used to be.

Suicide is a legitimate measure to take in life. Suicide shouldn't be a cause of commiting someone. Self harm sans suicide is reason for psychological evaluation. Suicide achieves something were as cutting doesn't.

But its a sign of a larger problem that is usually psychological. Don't get me wrong when I was a kid my parents were seriously considering committing me. For my own safety they say, but to me it just sounded like a threat. I see now they were just trying to help. After you get low enough in life theres very little help those half baked therapist can do. There is something to be said about being dropped into a world that is blocked off from the world that makes you want to die.

 

[Gerishnakov]

Not in my country (England), though Assisted suicide is still unfortunately illegal. One day we will progress forward past the bullshit Religion has shackled us with and people can die with dignity.

It isn't illegal because of religion though

Anti-suicide (and quite specifically Anti-assisted suicide) laws developed from the religious belief that only God can decide when a life should end.

But they've been continued for separate reasons.

No pretty much the only reason we still criminalise assisted suicide is because of the unfortunately increasingly vocal UK religious lobby, mainly from evangelical Christians. Part of the reason that the great social reforms of the '60s were able to take place in the UK was that there wasn't then a very strong evangelical movement here, the Church of England is generally somewhat liberal, unless it comes to ordinating women bishops!

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Care_Not_Killing for the organisation (religious) responsible for holding back progress on assisted suicide, despite a sizable majority of the public supporting it.

 

[Vault101]

huh? oh Im surprised this thread got 2 pages :/

anyway thanks for the info (no Im not planning of killing myself..it was just one of my randowm questions)

 

[AnarchistFish]

Not in my country (England), though Assisted suicide is still unfortunately illegal. One day we will progress forward past the bullshit Religion has shackled us with and people can die with dignity.

It isn't illegal because of religion though

Anti-suicide (and quite specifically Anti-assisted suicide) laws developed from the religious belief that only God can decide when a life should end.

But they've been continued for separate reasons.

No pretty much the only reason we still criminalise assisted suicide is because of the unfortunately increasingly vocal UK religious lobby, mainly from evangelical Christians. Part of the reason that the great social reforms of the '60s were able to take place in the UK was that there wasn't then a very strong evangelical movement here, the Church of England is generally somewhat liberal, unless it comes to ordinating women bishops!

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Care_Not_Killing for the organisation (religious) responsible for holding back progress on assisted suicide, despite a sizable majority of the public supporting it.

Then why is suicide itself not illegal?