Is Gaming Dead?

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Desert Tiger

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krazykidd said:
retyopy said:
Just look at the new games coming out. A Halo clone, a God of War clone, a Call of Duty clone, and countless sequels. The indie game market seems to be the only place with orginal games, and that's dying too, because more and more clones are coming out to capitalize on the succes of other games. (I'm looking at you, fortresscraft! And a ton of zombie games that are somehow released on the indie market, my other eye is on you!)

So is gaming dead?
So... by your logic , if games are not original , then gaming is dead? If that's true then gaming is dead, buried , sent to hell and is dining with hitler. Only so many original ideas can be had. There were mario clones , tetris clones( inorite ? ) , Sonic clones and many more clones back in the day. Today is no different, imitation is the best form of flattery no ?

Furioso said:
No way, the indie market is picking up steam, Arkham City and Skyrim are coming out, as far as I'm concerned, gaming is far from dead
So two awesome games ( hopefully) is enough to save a dying industry ( if it is indeed dying.) ? I think not , but here's to hoping those games will be as good as we are all hype out it will be.


OT: Gaming is not dead, but there are less and less original games like OP said,but more money is generated by video games. For us who have been gaming for decades, games seem bland , and boring, because we have seen much, and have played much in our lifetime as gamers. For newcomers and casual gamers ( not a derogatory term ) most of these ideas seem new and fresh and awesome, as it should. Also people are comfortable with what they know, as they say, if it ain't broke don't fix it . But that logic is killing certain genres, like horror , RPGs and RTS. But we as a gaming society need to support original ideas, buy games that differ from the norm, and show developpers that, WE ARE INTERESTED IN SOMETHING DIFFERENT. That they WILL sell, and we WILL buy them . WE as gamers need to show that , we support innovation , even though it might not be perfect at first. Mirrors edge ( to name a game ) was quite original and different , i really liked how that was different , and would actually like to see a improved version of that game, it could lead to something new, but because alot of people dismissed it , we are not likely to see a Mirrors edge 2 . Tis a pity really.
I'm all for innovation and new things, but Mirror's Edge had quite possibly the worst story I've ever had to experienced, combined with clunky movement and complex controls for simple movements. So yeah. I wouldn't buy Mirror's Edge 2, because in my opinion, the first was bad enough that a sequel would be overkill.

As much as we should all support innovation, don't forget what that can lead to if we blindly support it without criticising it.

It leads to Peter Molyneux talking about the various ways you can dress up your dog.
 

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retyopy said:
Just look at the new games coming out. A Halo clone, a God of War clone, a Call of Duty clone, and countless sequels. The indie game market seems to be the only place with orginal games, and that's dying too, because more and more clones are coming out to capitalize on the succes of other games. (I'm looking at you, fortresscraft! And a ton of zombie games that are somehow released on the indie market, my other eye is on you!)

So is gaming dead?

I reckon you should rephrase the question "Is Gaming Innovation Dead?"

But, you make a fair point OP. And it's a question that has no easy answer.
 

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retyopy said:
Just look at the new games coming out. A Halo clone, a God of War clone, a Call of Duty clone, and countless sequels. The indie game market seems to be the only place with orginal games, and that's dying too, because more and more clones are coming out to capitalize on the succes of other games. (I'm looking at you, fortresscraft! And a ton of zombie games that are somehow released on the indie market, my other eye is on you!)

So is gaming dead?
This is how proliferation works. Knowing your reviewers and/or using Gamefly instead of making those $60 purchases on untested games is the way to avoid crap, and a sea of crap always follows a work of brilliance. I'm not sure whether to be more unhappy with myself for how gross that metaphor was or how upset Orwell would've been with me over it.

Let me ask you this: is Rock dead?

Short answer: no. Not at all. Look at your collection of games and count the number that you would/will play through again. That should also answer your question.
 

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krazykidd said:
retyopy said:
Just look at the new games coming out. A Halo clone, a God of War clone, a Call of Duty clone, and countless sequels. The indie game market seems to be the only place with orginal games, and that's dying too, because more and more clones are coming out to capitalize on the succes of other games. (I'm looking at you, fortresscraft! And a ton of zombie games that are somehow released on the indie market, my other eye is on you!)

So is gaming dead?
So... by your logic , if games are not original , then gaming is dead? If that's true then gaming is dead, buried , sent to hell and is dining with hitler. Only so many original ideas can be had. There were mario clones , tetris clones( inorite ? ) , Sonic clones and many more clones back in the day. Today is no different, imitation is the best form of flattery no ?

Furioso said:
No way, the indie market is picking up steam, Arkham City and Skyrim are coming out, as far as I'm concerned, gaming is far from dead
So two awesome games ( hopefully) is enough to save a dying industry ( if it is indeed dying.) ? I think not , but here's to hoping those games will be as good as we are all hype out it will be.
Well I meant those as examples, not the entire list, I wasn't going to bother looking up every single title coming out this year, but theres still Deus Ex, Dead Island, Bastion and From Dust just came out, etc
 

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Clones? Let's see...

Dead island? Not really a clone. Space marine? Some may say it's a gears clone, but the gameplay seems very different. Skyrim? Is it really so bad a sequel? After all this time? I could go on.

As much as there are soulless franchises and greedy corporations, I'd say gaming is alive and well.
 

Jodah

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One of the few industries that still turns a profit in this economy is dieing? Yeah...
 

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@OP

Hi.

I'm one of the few here who was alive (11 yrs old) at the time of the 1983 gaming crash. By contrast, you are living in a time when U.S. society is saturated with gaming. We have games on consoles, PC, phones, and many other devices. Gaming's influence has reached all forms of media and all age groups. Working in gaming is considered a valid career path instead of a stupid fantasy that indicates that you haven't grown up. I won't presume to speak for other countries but I imagine it's similar for just about all non-third-world countries.

Where did you come up with the idea that gaming is dying?

Because it's similar? Friend, one of the minor reasons that I'm dropping gaming as this generation ends is that, at my age, even the non-COD/Madden/Sequel-Heavy titles have the uncomfortable feeling of "I've played this before" so I am not wholly unsympathetic to the statement of being in a rut. Seriously, there are only so many evil corporations/malevolent gods/president-stealing ninja clans you can beat before it starts seeming a little too familiar. Innovation in gameplay is also rare. Whether you're talking COD, Halo, or Half-Life 2, the basic gist of all FPS games is "Target pops up. You shoot it in the face." Fighting games? "Memorize special moves and a few combos. Punch opponent in the face." And so on.

So I can understand it feeling very similar. But dying? Not by a long shot.
 

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I think a little competition is good amongst the companies and really, has anything ever truly been original.
 

Burst6

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So what if squeals are coming out? That's not a bad thing. I loved demons souls and oblivion, so I'm really looking forward to Dark Souls and Skyrim.
 

Mxthe

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I'm tired of people claiming that "Gaming is dead" or that "PC Gaming is dead" just because they don't see any games they like over there...
 

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no gaming is not dead.. maybe ideas are but no those titles you mentioned are just successful franchises that people want more of.
We still have new unique types and kinds of games coming out every years. But gaming would be dead if everything was the same.
 

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Hehe, it is always funny to see people realize every game shares commonalities with or drew inspiration from another game. You know what "kills" gaming faster than anything? Calling anything that shares commonalities a "clone" and not giving it credit for what it is. Some clones get made from time to time, sure, but most triple A games aren't clones.
 

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Harken, Escapist, for the end is nigh!

Of course people are copying off each other. What do you mean, a Halo clone and a CoD clone? They're both Doom clones.
 

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This thread is so dumb... Is gaming dead? It has never been as popular or reached a larger audience.

What about the lack of innovation? Have you seen the mobile market. So it's is suffering from the thing all game markets have done since time began, of there being a myriad of clones to popular titles. That is normal.

I think what the OP was asking really was about 'traditional gaming', you know consoles etc. And in that case yes there are issues with the amount of FPS's etc. And yes it may well be that 'traditional gaming' might be in a decline, but gaming overall, never been healthier.
 

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retyopy said:
Just look at the new games coming out. A Halo clone, a God of War clone, a Call of Duty clone, and countless sequels. The indie game market seems to be the only place with orginal games, and that's dying too, because more and more clones are coming out to capitalize on the succes of other games. (I'm looking at you, fortresscraft! And a ton of zombie games that are somehow released on the indie market, my other eye is on you!)

So is gaming dead?
No, just the drive of gamers to look for something different. If you like the genres that there are countless examples of, you're happy. If you like genres that hardly have any examples, LOOK HARDER!
 

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Deus Ex human Revolution, Elder Scrolls 5 Skyrim, Catherine, Batman: Arkham City, BioShock Infinite and Mass Effect 3....

Need i say more???
 

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Gaming is nowhere near dead.
The fact that these clones exist just mean it's becoming more mainstream, and in the mean time we're still free to play the originals.