Is IGN Biased?

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Azaraxzealot said:
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Azaraxzealot said:
yes. IGN is very biased. have you ever noticed how strongly backed by corporate advertisements they are? it should be obvious. :/

besides that, they said InFamous is better than prototype.

no. its not. both games should be judged independently of each other as each game has its own strengths and weaknesses. shows a PS3 bias right thar.
Or perhaps they thought it was the better game?
I know I did, don't get me wrong they are as biased as all hell but using that as an example simply shows your own bias.
did i say prototype was better? read my post before saying im biased.

besides that, the OP has the right idea when saying that that Mass Effect 2 review was biased. it's only a matter of time before xbox gets a GOTY edition with all the DLC included.
I never said you did, the bias you are displaying is a clear bias against IGN, you also claim a PS3 bias when many would claim they had an XBOX bias.

However I took issue with your reasoning, not your preferences.

You claim that prefering inFamous is a clear sign of bias, then say that both games are different and should be judged independantly and be found equal, so you are claiming that a game reviewer can't have a personal preference of one game over another?
On top of which you claim that your oppinion is right and any deviation from it is bias?
And that they preferred inFamous to Prototype somhow shows a preference of system?
What if they had prefered Prototype?
How exactly would that show bias?
Think long and hard before you awnser, Prototype is multiplatform so console bias doesn't come in to it and if you claim that it shows no bias you are clearly displaying an overt dislike of the PS3, inFamous or you are simply trying to make faults where none exsists.
 

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Azaraxzealot said:
yes. IGN is very biased. have you ever noticed how strongly backed by corporate advertisements they are? it should be obvious. :/

besides that, they said InFamous is better than prototype.

no. its not. both games should be judged independently of each other as each game has its own strengths and weaknesses. shows a PS3 bias right thar.
Yeah.... but Prototype was also on the PS3.
 

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moretimethansense said:
Azaraxzealot said:
moretimethansense said:
Azaraxzealot said:
yes. IGN is very biased. have you ever noticed how strongly backed by corporate advertisements they are? it should be obvious. :/

besides that, they said InFamous is better than prototype.

no. its not. both games should be judged independently of each other as each game has its own strengths and weaknesses. shows a PS3 bias right thar.
Or perhaps they thought it was the better game?
I know I did, don't get me wrong they are as biased as all hell but using that as an example simply shows your own bias.
did i say prototype was better? read my post before saying im biased.

besides that, the OP has the right idea when saying that that Mass Effect 2 review was biased. it's only a matter of time before xbox gets a GOTY edition with all the DLC included.
I never said you did, the bias you are displaying is a clear bias against IGN, you also claim a PS3 bias when many would claim they had an XBOX bias.

However I took issue with your reasoning, not your preferences.

You claim that prefering inFamous is a clear sign of bias, then say that both games are different and should be judged independantly and be found equal, so you are claiming that a game reviewer can't have a personal preference of one game over another?
On top of which you claim that your oppinion is right and any deviation from it is bias?
And that they preferred inFamous to Prototype somhow shows a preference of system?
What if they had prefered Prototype?
How exactly would that show bias?
Think long and hard before you awnser, Prototype is multiplatform so console bias doesn't come in to it and if you claim that it shows no bias you are clearly displaying an overt dislike of the PS3, inFamous or you are simply trying to make faults where none exsists.
i already have thought a lot about this. it should not be mentioned in any review whatsoever when one game is "better" than another unless there is blatant "ripping off" going on.

they even made a video comparing the two. and i say PS3 bias because its a console exclusive. and then in the Mass Effect for PS3 review they also blatantly went "this is better". personally, i saw no differences in the graphics (just one looked darker than the other. does better graphics = darker?) and it includes all the DLC? so? what if they had come out at the same time? then there WOULD be no DLC to compare them to.

games that SEEM similar should not be compared to each other. thats like calling every Hack-N-Slasher a "God of War" rip off or every open-world game a "GTA rip-off".

the fact that InFamous is a console exclusive to the PS3 doesn't instantly make it a better game
 

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Hatchet90 said:
Azaraxzealot said:
yes. IGN is very biased. have you ever noticed how strongly backed by corporate advertisements they are? it should be obvious. :/

besides that, they said InFamous is better than prototype.

no. its not. both games should be judged independently of each other as each game has its own strengths and weaknesses. shows a PS3 bias right thar.
Yeah.... but Prototype was also on the PS3.
i know this, but because InFamous was exclusive to the PS3 they gave it a better review. in fact, most of the PS3's major exclusives get better reviews on that site. and multi-platform games also get better reviews on the PS3 on that site.
 

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Azaraxzealot said:
moretimethansense said:
Azaraxzealot said:
moretimethansense said:
Azaraxzealot said:
yes. IGN is very biased. have you ever noticed how strongly backed by corporate advertisements they are? it should be obvious. :/

besides that, they said InFamous is better than prototype.

no. its not. both games should be judged independently of each other as each game has its own strengths and weaknesses. shows a PS3 bias right thar.
Or perhaps they thought it was the better game?
I know I did, don't get me wrong they are as biased as all hell but using that as an example simply shows your own bias.
did i say prototype was better? read my post before saying im biased.

besides that, the OP has the right idea when saying that that Mass Effect 2 review was biased. it's only a matter of time before xbox gets a GOTY edition with all the DLC included.
I never said you did, the bias you are displaying is a clear bias against IGN, you also claim a PS3 bias when many would claim they had an XBOX bias.

However I took issue with your reasoning, not your preferences.

You claim that prefering inFamous is a clear sign of bias, then say that both games are different and should be judged independantly and be found equal, so you are claiming that a game reviewer can't have a personal preference of one game over another?
On top of which you claim that your oppinion is right and any deviation from it is bias?
And that they preferred inFamous to Prototype somhow shows a preference of system?
What if they had prefered Prototype?
How exactly would that show bias?
Think long and hard before you awnser, Prototype is multiplatform so console bias doesn't come in to it and if you claim that it shows no bias you are clearly displaying an overt dislike of the PS3, inFamous or you are simply trying to make faults where none exsists.
i already have thought a lot about this. it should not be mentioned in any review whatsoever when one game is "better" than another unless there is blatant "ripping off" going on.

they even made a video comparing the two. and i say PS3 bias because its a console exclusive. and then in the Mass Effect for PS3 review they also blatantly went "this is better". personally, i saw no differences in the graphics (just one looked darker than the other. does better graphics = darker?) and it includes all the DLC? so? what if they had come out at the same time? then there WOULD be no DLC to compare them to.

games that SEEM similar should not be compared to each other. thats like calling every Hack-N-Slasher a "God of War" rip off or every open-world game a "GTA rip-off".

the fact that InFamous is a console exclusive to the PS3 doesn't instantly make it a better game
Okay, where to start?

They were being compared because they were two similar games released at roughly the same time with roughly the same premise, these are competing games, of course they should be compared.

ME2 come to the PS3 with all the DLC, that's reason enough to prefer it to the 360 version, there's simply more game for your money.

Again, they have the same layout, same premise, same method of trave and they were released at the same time.

The fact that inFamous is PS3 exclusiver is TOTALLY FUCKING IRRELEVENT!
As I asked you, what if they had prefered Prototype?
Wopuld you be raising the stink you are now?
And as I said perhaps they merely thought it the better game, I did, are you going to claim I have a PS3 bias now?

You are basicly making up reasons to hate IGN, when there are so many legitimate reasons why bother?

To (mis)quote Kain "Hate them, but do it honestly".
 

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moretimethansense said:
Azaraxzealot said:
moretimethansense said:
Azaraxzealot said:
moretimethansense said:
Azaraxzealot said:
yes. IGN is very biased. have you ever noticed how strongly backed by corporate advertisements they are? it should be obvious. :/

besides that, they said InFamous is better than prototype.

no. its not. both games should be judged independently of each other as each game has its own strengths and weaknesses. shows a PS3 bias right thar.
Or perhaps they thought it was the better game?
I know I did, don't get me wrong they are as biased as all hell but using that as an example simply shows your own bias.
did i say prototype was better? read my post before saying im biased.

besides that, the OP has the right idea when saying that that Mass Effect 2 review was biased. it's only a matter of time before xbox gets a GOTY edition with all the DLC included.
I never said you did, the bias you are displaying is a clear bias against IGN, you also claim a PS3 bias when many would claim they had an XBOX bias.

However I took issue with your reasoning, not your preferences.

You claim that prefering inFamous is a clear sign of bias, then say that both games are different and should be judged independantly and be found equal, so you are claiming that a game reviewer can't have a personal preference of one game over another?
On top of which you claim that your oppinion is right and any deviation from it is bias?
And that they preferred inFamous to Prototype somhow shows a preference of system?
What if they had prefered Prototype?
How exactly would that show bias?
Think long and hard before you awnser, Prototype is multiplatform so console bias doesn't come in to it and if you claim that it shows no bias you are clearly displaying an overt dislike of the PS3, inFamous or you are simply trying to make faults where none exsists.
i already have thought a lot about this. it should not be mentioned in any review whatsoever when one game is "better" than another unless there is blatant "ripping off" going on.

they even made a video comparing the two. and i say PS3 bias because its a console exclusive. and then in the Mass Effect for PS3 review they also blatantly went "this is better". personally, i saw no differences in the graphics (just one looked darker than the other. does better graphics = darker?) and it includes all the DLC? so? what if they had come out at the same time? then there WOULD be no DLC to compare them to.

games that SEEM similar should not be compared to each other. thats like calling every Hack-N-Slasher a "God of War" rip off or every open-world game a "GTA rip-off".

the fact that InFamous is a console exclusive to the PS3 doesn't instantly make it a better game
Okay, where to start?

They were being compared because they were two similar games released at roughly the same time with roughly the same premise, these are competing games, of course they should be compared.

ME2 come to the PS3 with all the DLC, that's reason enough to prefer it to the 360 version, there's simply more game for your money.

Again, they have the same layout, same premise, same method of trave and they were released at the same time.

The fact that inFamous is PS3 exclusiver is TOTALLY FUCKING IRRELEVENT!
As I asked you, what if they had prefered Prototype?
Wopuld you be raising the stink you are now?
And as I said perhaps they merely thought it the better game, I did, are you going to claim I have a PS3 bias now?

You are basicly making up reasons to hate IGN, when there are so many legitimate reasons why bother?

To (mis)quote Kain "Hate them, but do it honestly".
well even if there is not a PS3 bias (which i still think there is) i think we can both agree that IGN has a bias against independent or original game ideas (by hardly showcasing them at all and giving them bad reviews)
 

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well even if there is not a PS3 bias (which i still think there is) i think we can both agree that IGN has a bias against independent or original game ideas (by hardly showcasing them at all and giving them bad reviews)
Oh I wasn't saying they didn't necesserily have one, just that the thing between inFamous and Prototype wasn't a good example.

And I'm al too aware of their apparent hatred of smaller Devs, give Way of the Samurai 3 a 6/10 will you?
Them fuckers is gonna pay! :mad:

Honestly though, often their complaints are ridiculess or even innacurate, if you read the WotS3 review and have played the game you might get what I'm talking about.
 

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moretimethansense said:
Azaraxzealot said:
well even if there is not a PS3 bias (which i still think there is) i think we can both agree that IGN has a bias against independent or original game ideas (by hardly showcasing them at all and giving them bad reviews)
Oh I wasn't saying they didn't necesserily have one, just that the thing between inFamous and Prototype wasn't a good example.

And I'm al too aware of their apparent hatred of smaller Devs, give Way of the Samurai 3 a 6/10 will you?
Them fuckers is gonna pay! :mad:

Honestly though, often their complaints are ridiculess or even innacurate, if you read the WotS3 review and have played the game you might get what I'm talking about.
yeah i was looking into that game, is it really like a samurai sandbox game? because ive been looking for one of those :p
 

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Azaraxzealot said:
Hatchet90 said:
Azaraxzealot said:
yes. IGN is very biased. have you ever noticed how strongly backed by corporate advertisements they are? it should be obvious. :/

besides that, they said InFamous is better than prototype.

no. its not. both games should be judged independently of each other as each game has its own strengths and weaknesses. shows a PS3 bias right thar.
Yeah.... but Prototype was also on the PS3.
i know this, but because InFamous was exclusive to the PS3 they gave it a better review. in fact, most of the PS3's major exclusives get better reviews on that site. and multi-platform games also get better reviews on the PS3 on that site.
Yes, but the fact of the matter is that PS3 is superior.
 

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honestly i never liked IGN that much they do favor the 360 more than the ps3 but alot of companies do, but IGN makes it point blank that they like the 360 more out of frat boyism
This, and the fact that they wouldn't be caught dead saying anything nice about Nintendo, are the reasons why I stopped going to IGN. Also, I can kinda see how they would tend to favor the 360 when their editor-in-chief used to be their longtime 360 editor. Just sayin'.

demoman_chaos said:
I know they gave Bayonetta a higher score on the 360 despite them being 100% identical. Most all multiplatform games get higher scores on the 360 despite being the exact same.

If I remember right, they gave Kinectimals the same score as GT5 if that tells you anything.
Microsoft's money goes a long way.
Actually, if I remember right myself, pretty much every comparison between the 360 and PS3 Bayonetta commented on the visual and control issues with the PS3 version, giving the 360 the "edge" on that game, so to speak. I've also heard from friends who have played both versions and can back that up.
Haha, PS3 bias, Xbox Bias, people are so amusing.

It's like arguing about Fox News being biased towards Repubs and MSNBC being biased towards Dem's but we prefer to get our news from whatever organization shares a similar bias towards us. I just found that a little amusing.

And correct me if I am wrong but don't they have separate channels for the platforms. I really don't think the PS3 editors have some scheme to undermine the system they are working for.

Anyways, i remember the first time i went to IGN, i wasn't looking for games but boobs. Wasn't till years later i went their again for gaming news. And now i come here.
 

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Azaraxzealot said:
moretimethansense said:
Azaraxzealot said:
well even if there is not a PS3 bias (which i still think there is) i think we can both agree that IGN has a bias against independent or original game ideas (by hardly showcasing them at all and giving them bad reviews)
Oh I wasn't saying they didn't necesserily have one, just that the thing between inFamous and Prototype wasn't a good example.

And I'm al too aware of their apparent hatred of smaller Devs, give Way of the Samurai 3 a 6/10 will you?
Them fuckers is gonna pay! :mad:

Honestly though, often their complaints are ridiculess or even innacurate, if you read the WotS3 review and have played the game you might get what I'm talking about.
yeah i was looking into that game, is it really like a samurai sandbox game? because ive been looking for one of those :p
Eh, pretty much don't get me wrong it's not to everyones taste and there are some legitimate complaints about it but it is a decent game, I'd say give it a try it's probebly not that expensive now, though my favorite is the second one.
 

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demoman_chaos said:
I know they gave Bayonetta a higher score on the 360 despite them being 100% identical. Most all multiplatform games get higher scores on the 360 despite being the exact same.
Obviously you haven't played the 360 version of Bayonetta, which is pretty much superior because of frame rate issues and such on the PS3. It isn't superior by a large margin, but it is the better version.

And a lot of developers find the 360 easier to develop for, so sometimes (ala The Orange Box) multiplatform games are better on the 360.
 

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After Watching a Video Review of the ps3 version of Mass Effect 2 They gave it a 9.5 And one of the Cons were 'Late to PS3' Even through he talks about how this is one of the best versions with ALL the Dlc put into it. so we lost 0.5 because we were late.

Im not angry about it just seems a little unfair.
Little Big Planet Two got editor's choice. Woooooo. Horrible bias there.
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/019/019675.html
I'll tell you this, once you own both consoles, crap like that will hardly ever bother you. You will however still be bothered when a review is wrong or ignorant of a fact. Which brings me to my next point. there is no rule of law for reviews, no rubric to consult on the guidelines of what constitutes goodness. Which leaves things in the hands of human beings. Who are opinionated, subject to acting unfairly on their own whims and who can become pig headed and self-important. I once caught an IGN review where the girl doing the review got several facts about the game wrong, and didn't even know one of her biggest complaints was handled by the game if she took the time to read the dialogue boxes in conversation properly.

They never re-reviewed that product because they're gods and we're slobs so there.

So in the end, reviews vary wildly and staffs have a lot of personnel. Don't get too worked up about the points.

warm slurm said:
demoman_chaos said:
I know they gave Bayonetta a higher score on the 360 despite them being 100% identical. Most all multiplatform games get higher scores on the 360 despite being the exact same.
Obviously you haven't played the 360 version of Bayonetta, which is pretty much superior because of frame rate issues and such on the PS3. It isn't superior by a large margin, but it is the better version.
Worth noting that a lot of games have slowdown on the ps3. Soul Calibur IV for instance. Other games like Fallout 3 or dead rising 2 have jaggies and I can tell ya from my experience with the ps3 mass effect 2 there is slowdown in some shoot outs. The ps3 doesn't seem to handle particles too well. Might be you can only give the threads so many tasks. While that blu-ray can certainly hold larger textures they need to be non-compressed because they read slower than dvd's. This is why a lot of ps3 titles require a pre-install. And I don't know what's up with the jaggies on a lot of the games. All in all the Playstation seems to have it's fair share of problems and to this day multiplats aren't coming out identical.
 

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Azaraxzealot said:
yes. IGN is very biased. have you ever noticed how strongly backed by corporate advertisements they are? it should be obvious. :/

besides that, they said InFamous is better than prototype.

no. its not. both games should be judged independently of each other as each game has its own strengths and weaknesses. shows a PS3 bias right thar.
Well to be fair I played both and proffered Infamous.
 

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Eh, at least they're better than Gametrailers. But I hate Gametrailers mostly for the sole reason that they're giving that fucktard Michael Pachter so much attention. My god that man is stupid. But then again, the whole site is stupid.


Just look at this shit.
I...I just...I wanted to rage so hard after watching that.
 

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I remember when Halo 2 came out it was getting perfect scores despite having numerous flaws, which the reviewer pointed out just before giving the game 10/10.

The number means nothing. Read the review itself.