Is it just me or is liking games not "in"?

[DEAD34345]

I don't think it's a problem specific to this site, it's just how people work. If we find something good we generally don't comment on it (unless specifically asked), but if we find something bad then it becomes our sacred duty to inform the rest of the world how terrible it is.

Basically, people like complaining more than they like praising.

 

[Erttheking]

Not really. Skyrim is universally praised, the Witcher 2 had a great reception here, Deus Ex: HR was met with a positive reception here,.....I don't see it. Personally, most of the games I played this year I liked/loved.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332369-Skyrim-Nice-patch
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.331000-First-Person-Skyrim-is-Soulless
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.329715-Deus-Ex-Human-Devolution

oi?
Have you SEEN the hype for Skyrim this website generated?
Have you SEEN how much love this site has for Mass Effect, Silent hill, Half-life, Portal, etc.?
We aren't THAT cynical, and I wouldn't say that just liking a game isn't "in" as you put.
unless I'm horribly misunderstanding the point of this thread.

Can't say much for Half Life Portal or Silent Hill (And call me as ass if you wish but I suspect that half of the support for those games comes from Yahtzee saying how good they are) but Mass Effect is most certainly coming under fire.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332217-Mass-Effect-3-New-Trailer
Read some of the comments

See some of my earlier links for Skyrim.

I was referring to the overall reception on the site. Some people are not going to like a game. And complaining that a company can't properly patch a game is uncalled for? Hell, one of your links is a site contributor explaining why he didn't like Skyrim. I still don't see it.

Games are still taking fire from all directions aren't they?

Isolated threads criticizing parts of a game amid tons of positive threads or threads just discussing the game? I don't see how that qualifies as "taking fire from all directions".

I've dug through the Skyrim threads and I've seen a lot of people getting really annoyed with it, a lot of people saying "STOP ALREADY" and if I'm wrong and the game is an exception...ever other game is still getting torn to shreds arounds here.

How so? I've seen nothing but positive things about Bastion, this community loves Minecraft, the community is obsessing over Skyrim, Dark Souls has a good following here....you need to stop exaggerating.

You need to point me in that direction, because whenever I look up games that I like, I get reminders about how much they suck.

What? So the community is split on some games you like=the community is always down on all games. Half the comments in that ME3 are positive for heaven's sake.

And the other half are saying how much it sucks. Half is a lot. I'm not getting worked up over it I'm just making an observation.

 

[The Diabolical Biz]

I get what you mean, in that in every discussion about a game that's popular, say Skyrim, although the tradition has been going on far longer than that, there are always 2 or 3 people who use the game's name in the title as a platform to put out a load of flame-bait and rant on and on about how much they dislike the game, and make all these implications about how liking it makes you less of a person in their eyes, etc etc without contributing at all.

Best to just ignore them, and let them gather up their hipster points.

NOTE: I'm not saying that you shouldn't dislike things, nor am I saying that you shouldn't air your opinions, BUT! You shouldn't just go onto every discussion like 'What's your favourite x in y' and say y is a buggy piece of shit and I hate it, for fuck's sake it's not God's own gift to man etc etc.

 

[Therumancer]

I've been clicking around and it kinda seems like every game from here to there is being bashed for one reason or another by a healthy portion of the website's population non the less. I get the idea that there's the whole "it's my opinion" thing, but I'm also starting to get the vibe that the Escapist is one of the more cynical websites around. Considering that it's the home of Zero Punctuation I guess that I shouldn't be surprised, but seriously guys. Any thoughts?

I think it's a matter of the gaming industry becoming too corperate. We're seeing an increasing number of games released that are conceived and developed largely by committee to sell lots of copies based on the performance of similar games. The result being that we see a lot of mediocre games with high production values hitting the market, that you can't exactly defend as being good or paticularly innovative. Especially seeing as a tendency to aim at the lowest human denominator in many cases creates games that are incredibly simple and provide little or no investment on the part of a serious gamer.

It's not that The Escapist is cynical, so much as this is a gaming website, and as such there are a lot of serious gamers. Even the legions of casuals here are ones that tend to think of themselves as serious gamers and might half-way make it towards that claim. The result being that your looking at a far more critical audience.

Your typical casual pretty much wants a game that is simple to play, has pretty graphics, and most importantly he can finish with enough back patting to make him feel like he did something impressive even if he didn't. A game like that will have millions of people clapping and make lots of money, but isn't objectively a very good game.

You also have to understand the standards for games, as the capabilities of games increases and everyone is making multi-million dollar productions at a minimum, that kind of thing becomes an average. You no longer deserve praise for a game looking good, that's expected, if your game looks like crap you deserve scorn, pretty graphics, a physics engine, good sound by professional musicians, that's all assumed just to be considered average since everyone does it.

 

[Woodsey]

We have plenty of people who'll chuck out the "no no, just switch off your brain and drill out your eyes and its a really good game/film!", if that's what you're looking for.

 

[Sixcess]

The latest ME3 trailer is underwhelming to a sizeable number of people who do like the series and do want the new game, but find it difficult to be enthusiastic when every 'trailer' is "hey, look at Shepard's new way of jumping over stuff and punching dudes in the face."

That's the price a game series pays for having an established fanbase. Good trailer = excited fans who will buy overpriced collector's editions and building buzz by speculating and anticipating the game. Bad trailer = disapointed fans reconsidering their pre-order and expressing that disapointment.

With Skyrim it's simply that we've had a solid month of 50% of the threads in gen discussion being about it and praising it as the best thing ever. People are just fucking sick about hearing about it now, and are becoming less reluctant to say so now that the initial lovefest is dying down.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Not really. Skyrim is universally praised, the Witcher 2 had a great reception here, Deus Ex: HR was met with a positive reception here,.....I don't see it. Personally, most of the games I played this year I liked/loved.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332369-Skyrim-Nice-patch
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.331000-First-Person-Skyrim-is-Soulless
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.329715-Deus-Ex-Human-Devolution

oi?
Have you SEEN the hype for Skyrim this website generated?
Have you SEEN how much love this site has for Mass Effect, Silent hill, Half-life, Portal, etc.?
We aren't THAT cynical, and I wouldn't say that just liking a game isn't "in" as you put.
unless I'm horribly misunderstanding the point of this thread.

Can't say much for Half Life Portal or Silent Hill (And call me as ass if you wish but I suspect that half of the support for those games comes from Yahtzee saying how good they are) but Mass Effect is most certainly coming under fire.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332217-Mass-Effect-3-New-Trailer
Read some of the comments

See some of my earlier links for Skyrim.

I was referring to the overall reception on the site. Some people are not going to like a game. And complaining that a company can't properly patch a game is uncalled for? Hell, one of your links is a site contributor explaining why he didn't like Skyrim. I still don't see it.

Games are still taking fire from all directions aren't they?

Isolated threads criticizing parts of a game amid tons of positive threads or threads just discussing the game? I don't see how that qualifies as "taking fire from all directions".

I've dug through the Skyrim threads and I've seen a lot of people getting really annoyed with it, a lot of people saying "STOP ALREADY" and if I'm wrong and the game is an exception...ever other game is still getting torn to shreds arounds here.

How so? I've seen nothing but positive things about Bastion, this community loves Minecraft, the community is obsessing over Skyrim, Dark Souls has a good following here....you need to stop exaggerating.

You need to point me in that direction, because whenever I look up games that I like, I get reminders about how much they suck.

What? So the community is split on some games you like=the community is always down on all games. Half the comments in that ME3 are positive for heaven's sake.

And the other half are saying how much it sucks. Half is a lot. I'm not getting worked up over it I'm just making an observation.

A hasty, inaccurate observation. Revnak just provided another example: Valve is more popular than bacon on this site. Every game they come out with is praised here.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

/thread

Damnit! ninja!

Well aside from that, there's also the fact that the griefers are usually the loudest group, but are also often the smallest (in more ways than one).

 

[Erttheking]

Not really. Skyrim is universally praised, the Witcher 2 had a great reception here, Deus Ex: HR was met with a positive reception here,.....I don't see it. Personally, most of the games I played this year I liked/loved.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332369-Skyrim-Nice-patch
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.331000-First-Person-Skyrim-is-Soulless
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.329715-Deus-Ex-Human-Devolution

oi?
Have you SEEN the hype for Skyrim this website generated?
Have you SEEN how much love this site has for Mass Effect, Silent hill, Half-life, Portal, etc.?
We aren't THAT cynical, and I wouldn't say that just liking a game isn't "in" as you put.
unless I'm horribly misunderstanding the point of this thread.

Can't say much for Half Life Portal or Silent Hill (And call me as ass if you wish but I suspect that half of the support for those games comes from Yahtzee saying how good they are) but Mass Effect is most certainly coming under fire.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332217-Mass-Effect-3-New-Trailer
Read some of the comments

See some of my earlier links for Skyrim.

I was referring to the overall reception on the site. Some people are not going to like a game. And complaining that a company can't properly patch a game is uncalled for? Hell, one of your links is a site contributor explaining why he didn't like Skyrim. I still don't see it.

Games are still taking fire from all directions aren't they?

Isolated threads criticizing parts of a game amid tons of positive threads or threads just discussing the game? I don't see how that qualifies as "taking fire from all directions".

I've dug through the Skyrim threads and I've seen a lot of people getting really annoyed with it, a lot of people saying "STOP ALREADY" and if I'm wrong and the game is an exception...ever other game is still getting torn to shreds arounds here.

How so? I've seen nothing but positive things about Bastion, this community loves Minecraft, the community is obsessing over Skyrim, Dark Souls has a good following here....you need to stop exaggerating.

You need to point me in that direction, because whenever I look up games that I like, I get reminders about how much they suck.

What? So the community is split on some games you like=the community is always down on all games. Half the comments in that ME3 are positive for heaven's sake.

And the other half are saying how much it sucks. Half is a lot. I'm not getting worked up over it I'm just making an observation.

A hasty, inaccurate observation. Revnak just provided another example: Valve is more popular than bacon on this site. Every game they come out with is praised here.

Which kinda pisses me off, as I've gotten the orange box and have been severely underwhelmed by everything on it. I guess a more accurate observation would be about how there is always a loud complainer for half of the games that are currently popular on this site.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Not really. Skyrim is universally praised, the Witcher 2 had a great reception here, Deus Ex: HR was met with a positive reception here,.....I don't see it. Personally, most of the games I played this year I liked/loved.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332369-Skyrim-Nice-patch
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.331000-First-Person-Skyrim-is-Soulless
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.329715-Deus-Ex-Human-Devolution

oi?
Have you SEEN the hype for Skyrim this website generated?
Have you SEEN how much love this site has for Mass Effect, Silent hill, Half-life, Portal, etc.?
We aren't THAT cynical, and I wouldn't say that just liking a game isn't "in" as you put.
unless I'm horribly misunderstanding the point of this thread.

Can't say much for Half Life Portal or Silent Hill (And call me as ass if you wish but I suspect that half of the support for those games comes from Yahtzee saying how good they are) but Mass Effect is most certainly coming under fire.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332217-Mass-Effect-3-New-Trailer
Read some of the comments

See some of my earlier links for Skyrim.

I was referring to the overall reception on the site. Some people are not going to like a game. And complaining that a company can't properly patch a game is uncalled for? Hell, one of your links is a site contributor explaining why he didn't like Skyrim. I still don't see it.

Games are still taking fire from all directions aren't they?

Isolated threads criticizing parts of a game amid tons of positive threads or threads just discussing the game? I don't see how that qualifies as "taking fire from all directions".

I've dug through the Skyrim threads and I've seen a lot of people getting really annoyed with it, a lot of people saying "STOP ALREADY" and if I'm wrong and the game is an exception...ever other game is still getting torn to shreds arounds here.

How so? I've seen nothing but positive things about Bastion, this community loves Minecraft, the community is obsessing over Skyrim, Dark Souls has a good following here....you need to stop exaggerating.

You need to point me in that direction, because whenever I look up games that I like, I get reminders about how much they suck.

What? So the community is split on some games you like=the community is always down on all games. Half the comments in that ME3 are positive for heaven's sake.

And the other half are saying how much it sucks. Half is a lot. I'm not getting worked up over it I'm just making an observation.

A hasty, inaccurate observation. Revnak just provided another example: Valve is more popular than bacon on this site. Every game they come out with is praised here.

Which kinda pisses me off, as I've gotten the orange box and have been severely underwhelmed by everything on it. I guess a more accurate observation would be about how there is always a loud complainer for half of the games that are currently popular on this site.

Now you are getting it.
"Loud minority" is the best way to describe most of the criticism. There are exceptions (you should have been here for DA2).

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Not really. Skyrim is universally praised, the Witcher 2 had a great reception here, Deus Ex: HR was met with a positive reception here,.....I don't see it. Personally, most of the games I played this year I liked/loved.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332369-Skyrim-Nice-patch
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.331000-First-Person-Skyrim-is-Soulless
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.329715-Deus-Ex-Human-Devolution

oi?
Have you SEEN the hype for Skyrim this website generated?
Have you SEEN how much love this site has for Mass Effect, Silent hill, Half-life, Portal, etc.?
We aren't THAT cynical, and I wouldn't say that just liking a game isn't "in" as you put.
unless I'm horribly misunderstanding the point of this thread.

Can't say much for Half Life Portal or Silent Hill (And call me as ass if you wish but I suspect that half of the support for those games comes from Yahtzee saying how good they are) but Mass Effect is most certainly coming under fire.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332217-Mass-Effect-3-New-Trailer
Read some of the comments

See some of my earlier links for Skyrim.

I was referring to the overall reception on the site. Some people are not going to like a game. And complaining that a company can't properly patch a game is uncalled for? Hell, one of your links is a site contributor explaining why he didn't like Skyrim. I still don't see it.

Games are still taking fire from all directions aren't they?

Isolated threads criticizing parts of a game amid tons of positive threads or threads just discussing the game? I don't see how that qualifies as "taking fire from all directions".

I've dug through the Skyrim threads and I've seen a lot of people getting really annoyed with it, a lot of people saying "STOP ALREADY" and if I'm wrong and the game is an exception...ever other game is still getting torn to shreds arounds here.

How so? I've seen nothing but positive things about Bastion, this community loves Minecraft, the community is obsessing over Skyrim, Dark Souls has a good following here....you need to stop exaggerating.

You need to point me in that direction, because whenever I look up games that I like, I get reminders about how much they suck.

What? So the community is split on some games you like=the community is always down on all games. Half the comments in that ME3 are positive for heaven's sake.

And the other half are saying how much it sucks. Half is a lot. I'm not getting worked up over it I'm just making an observation.

A hasty, inaccurate observation. Revnak just provided another example: Valve is more popular than bacon on this site. Every game they come out with is praised here.

Which kinda pisses me off, as I've gotten the orange box and have been severely underwhelmed by everything on it. I guess a more accurate observation would be about how there is always a loud complainer for half of the games that are currently popular on this site.

Which really doesn't change that they are popular and that it is totally "in" to like them.

 

[Erttheking]

Not really. Skyrim is universally praised, the Witcher 2 had a great reception here, Deus Ex: HR was met with a positive reception here,.....I don't see it. Personally, most of the games I played this year I liked/loved.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332369-Skyrim-Nice-patch
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.331000-First-Person-Skyrim-is-Soulless
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.329715-Deus-Ex-Human-Devolution

oi?
Have you SEEN the hype for Skyrim this website generated?
Have you SEEN how much love this site has for Mass Effect, Silent hill, Half-life, Portal, etc.?
We aren't THAT cynical, and I wouldn't say that just liking a game isn't "in" as you put.
unless I'm horribly misunderstanding the point of this thread.

Can't say much for Half Life Portal or Silent Hill (And call me as ass if you wish but I suspect that half of the support for those games comes from Yahtzee saying how good they are) but Mass Effect is most certainly coming under fire.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332217-Mass-Effect-3-New-Trailer
Read some of the comments

See some of my earlier links for Skyrim.

I was referring to the overall reception on the site. Some people are not going to like a game. And complaining that a company can't properly patch a game is uncalled for? Hell, one of your links is a site contributor explaining why he didn't like Skyrim. I still don't see it.

Games are still taking fire from all directions aren't they?

Isolated threads criticizing parts of a game amid tons of positive threads or threads just discussing the game? I don't see how that qualifies as "taking fire from all directions".

I've dug through the Skyrim threads and I've seen a lot of people getting really annoyed with it, a lot of people saying "STOP ALREADY" and if I'm wrong and the game is an exception...ever other game is still getting torn to shreds arounds here.

How so? I've seen nothing but positive things about Bastion, this community loves Minecraft, the community is obsessing over Skyrim, Dark Souls has a good following here....you need to stop exaggerating.

You need to point me in that direction, because whenever I look up games that I like, I get reminders about how much they suck.

What? So the community is split on some games you like=the community is always down on all games. Half the comments in that ME3 are positive for heaven's sake.

And the other half are saying how much it sucks. Half is a lot. I'm not getting worked up over it I'm just making an observation.

A hasty, inaccurate observation. Revnak just provided another example: Valve is more popular than bacon on this site. Every game they come out with is praised here.

Which kinda pisses me off, as I've gotten the orange box and have been severely underwhelmed by everything on it. I guess a more accurate observation would be about how there is always a loud complainer for half of the games that are currently popular on this site.

Which really doesn't change that they are popular and that it is totally "in" to like them.

I direct you to my last post before this one.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Not really. Skyrim is universally praised, the Witcher 2 had a great reception here, Deus Ex: HR was met with a positive reception here,.....I don't see it. Personally, most of the games I played this year I liked/loved.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332369-Skyrim-Nice-patch
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.331000-First-Person-Skyrim-is-Soulless
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.329715-Deus-Ex-Human-Devolution

oi?
Have you SEEN the hype for Skyrim this website generated?
Have you SEEN how much love this site has for Mass Effect, Silent hill, Half-life, Portal, etc.?
We aren't THAT cynical, and I wouldn't say that just liking a game isn't "in" as you put.
unless I'm horribly misunderstanding the point of this thread.

Can't say much for Half Life Portal or Silent Hill (And call me as ass if you wish but I suspect that half of the support for those games comes from Yahtzee saying how good they are) but Mass Effect is most certainly coming under fire.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332217-Mass-Effect-3-New-Trailer
Read some of the comments

See some of my earlier links for Skyrim.

I was referring to the overall reception on the site. Some people are not going to like a game. And complaining that a company can't properly patch a game is uncalled for? Hell, one of your links is a site contributor explaining why he didn't like Skyrim. I still don't see it.

Games are still taking fire from all directions aren't they?

Isolated threads criticizing parts of a game amid tons of positive threads or threads just discussing the game? I don't see how that qualifies as "taking fire from all directions".

I've dug through the Skyrim threads and I've seen a lot of people getting really annoyed with it, a lot of people saying "STOP ALREADY" and if I'm wrong and the game is an exception...ever other game is still getting torn to shreds arounds here.

How so? I've seen nothing but positive things about Bastion, this community loves Minecraft, the community is obsessing over Skyrim, Dark Souls has a good following here....you need to stop exaggerating.

You need to point me in that direction, because whenever I look up games that I like, I get reminders about how much they suck.

What? So the community is split on some games you like=the community is always down on all games. Half the comments in that ME3 are positive for heaven's sake.

And the other half are saying how much it sucks. Half is a lot. I'm not getting worked up over it I'm just making an observation.

A hasty, inaccurate observation. Revnak just provided another example: Valve is more popular than bacon on this site. Every game they come out with is praised here.

Which kinda pisses me off, as I've gotten the orange box and have been severely underwhelmed by everything on it. I guess a more accurate observation would be about how there is always a loud complainer for half of the games that are currently popular on this site.

Which really doesn't change that they are popular and that it is totally "in" to like them.

I direct you to my last post before this one.

Half is an overstatement. Far more than half of the community loves the majority of wRPG's and even more than that love Valve, though what I am saying is also an overstatement as far less than half of the community have played those games and a significantly smaller number actually care about those games one way or another, so it is more like more than half of those that care loved those games.

Your argument should be being made using the idea that liking something isn't "in" because caring isn't "in," but the people that don't care rarely care enough to look down on the people that do.

 

[natster43]

It isn't that people do not like the games, it is that there is just a lot of talk about said games. For the last month most threads about Skyrim were about how it was the best thing ever made ever and you should all talk about it. Now there are less of those threads so the threads about hating the game are popping up more frequently. As for other games, it always happens. I am pretty sure within the first few days of each of these coming out, Dead Rising 2, Modern Warfare 2 and 3, Dragon Age 2, Dead Island, and many more all had a thread about how they were shitty games full of problems and why people shouldn't like these games. Hell there have already been multiple threads about Metal Gear Rising Revengeance hate, and it isn't even out. These threads also just attract a lot of attention. People love to argue.

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

I've been clicking around and it kinda seems like every game from here to there is being bashed for one reason or another by a healthy portion of the website's population non the less. I get the idea that there's the whole "it's my opinion" thing, but I'm also starting to get the vibe that the Escapist is one of the more cynical websites around. Considering that it's the home of Zero Punctuation I guess that I shouldn't be surprised, but seriously guys. Any thoughts?

I think you're suffering from the side effects of freedom of speech. Yeah, Skyrim has gotten quite a brunt of criticism unloaded on it like a pile of elephant poop, but the elephant really was standing in the middle of the room, and others completely refused to even mention it being inappropriate.

The way I look at it is this: People, individuals, have written reviews and whole essays on and inspired by their experiences in Skyrim. As individuals they generally went for a holistic approach, focusing on the soft spots, or just let us know that, yes indeed, there are weaknesses, oddities, bugs - beware.

I don't see that as cynicism. To me, it feels more wholesome than the strawberry-flavoured pink Hannah Montana style redacted shallowness of other big sites. I like it.

 

[BlindMessiah94]

I think the real reason we see so much hate is because most of us are goddamned sick of seeing repeat threads about the same game for months.
It happens constantly...COD, Skyrim, etc.

After a while it doesn't matter if the game is good or not, most of us just get sick of the memes and the people jizzing their pants over the games that we tend to get extremely critical and cynical.

 

[mediarulestheworld]

Why the fuck do any of you care about this? Like games you enjoy, don't like games you don't enjoy. Simple as that.

 

[Machocruz]

Undue praise warrants undue criticism

Stop calling games the best ever in their genre when you aren't experienced with the genre enough to make that declaration. And most reviewers aren't.

 

[Yopaz]

Not really. Skyrim is universally praised, the Witcher 2 had a great reception here, Deus Ex: HR was met with a positive reception here,.....I don't see it. Personally, most of the games I played this year I liked/loved.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332369-Skyrim-Nice-patch
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.331000-First-Person-Skyrim-is-Soulless
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.329715-Deus-Ex-Human-Devolution

oi?
Have you SEEN the hype for Skyrim this website generated?
Have you SEEN how much love this site has for Mass Effect, Silent hill, Half-life, Portal, etc.?
We aren't THAT cynical, and I wouldn't say that just liking a game isn't "in" as you put.
unless I'm horribly misunderstanding the point of this thread.

Can't say much for Half Life Portal or Silent Hill (And call me as ass if you wish but I suspect that half of the support for those games comes from Yahtzee saying how good they are) but Mass Effect is most certainly coming under fire.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.332217-Mass-Effect-3-New-Trailer
Read some of the comments

See some of my earlier links for Skyrim.

I was referring to the overall reception on the site. Some people are not going to like a game. And complaining that a company can't properly patch a game is uncalled for? Hell, one of your links is a site contributor explaining why he didn't like Skyrim. I still don't see it.

Games are still taking fire from all directions aren't they?

Isolated threads criticizing parts of a game amid tons of positive threads or threads just discussing the game? I don't see how that qualifies as "taking fire from all directions".

I've dug through the Skyrim threads and I've seen a lot of people getting really annoyed with it, a lot of people saying "STOP ALREADY" and if I'm wrong and the game is an exception...ever other game is still getting torn to shreds arounds here.

That's complaints on the fanbase, not the game. Seriously, I don't care about Skyrim, not mt kind of game, but I'm sure it's great, but the fans have been nominating it for game of the year since July. Then there's the arrow to the knee joke that pops up. When people tell Skyrim fans to get over it that's because we've heard everything we need. You managed to find a thread complaining about a patch. That's not a sign of hatred for the game. That means that the person cared about the game and thought the patch was terrible.
There's pointless internet rage and there's genuine criticism of flaws. If you're not trolling learn the difference.
Now I absolutely love Batman Arkham City, but I doubt I will play it ever again because it deleted my save games. Well, it didn't delete them. It just doesn't recognize them making me start over after playing for 42 hours. Is this criticism or hate?

 

[Deviluk]

It sounds more clever to find negative points about something...I don't appreciate it at all either, but its definitely easier to ***** about something then to put yourself out there and be emotionally happy about something that thousands of anonymous people can put you down for...