Is it logical to hate a medium?

[Eric the Orange]

For example, is logical to hate TV shows? To clarify not the TV it self. Or what TV has become, or stereo typically is, But what TV has the potential to be.

Not to be confused with hating a genre. For example, I can't stand musicals (note here I don't want to say I hate or would disrespect people if they like musicals, it's just an opinion). But that doesn't mean I dislike movies. And with the most recent addition of the escapist you can see a lot of people who have hate for JRPGs (a lot of it sadly seems to be blind hate).

I ask this because I've seen people express the opinion that the hate anime. Which is a medium of art, not so much a genre. I feel that most of the hate for anime is that people classify it as a genre rater than a medium. The only logical justification that I can think of is disliking the specific art style, but that doesn't seem to be the reason most people give for there hate of anime.

So to reiterate the question. Is it logical to hate a medium?

 

[Skorpyo]

It is illogical.

Say I was offended by radio. Hating it so completely, I would stay away from cars and other vehicles equipped with it.

Logic is nil.

 

[Lullabye]

Isn't anime a genre of a medium?...

 

[RaphaelsRedemption]

I thought you were talking about psychics. Never mind

And hating upon anything in general is usually foolish. You might not enjoy something in particular, but that doesn't negate it's value to others, and should not automatically make everything associated with it bad too.

 

[RatRace123]

I think it's logical to hate, or dislike an art style, I can't really think of one I dislike, but I think it can be done.
I think we, the people who aren't anime fans, tend to see it all as one big genre rather than as an art style. That's probably wrong, and it's like placing all western animation under a big genre.

As for your main question, I think it's logical to hate anything, or at least some hatred is seated within logical thinking. If emotions can be subjected to logical thinking. That extends to a certain medium, too. Whether certain types of hatred are logical or not, depends on the person hating.

 

[Eric the Orange]

Isn't anime a genre of a medium?...

Not exactly, it's an art style. Anime can be dramas, romance, horror, comedy, or pretty much anything that TV, movies, ect. can be.

 

[Eric the Orange]

Like and dislike are instinctive emotional reactions. There is nothing logical about "loving" anime nor is there anything logical about "hating" JRPGs.

Well OK, I'm defining logic here of having an opinion that is backed up by accurate facts. Like I hate stepping on spikes because it hurts my feet. But an illogical hatred would be to hate Germans because you hate Hitler for causing the holocaust. This kind of logic is chop logic. The incorrect proof would be,

Hate=holocaust

Hitler=holocaust

Hitler=German

German=holocaust

German=hate

The incorrect step being "German=holocaust". Or to put it another way they assume because 2 things have one thing in common, then they must have other things in common.

So to relate this back into the anime topic, the only thing all anime has in common is the art style. So to hate it for any other reason (like for example character stereo types), is illogical.

 

[The Bum]

No it's foolish, and just plain mean. I'm assuming you mean games. Saying you hate games is like saying you hate Music. It's so ignorant it makes my head hurt.

 

[Eric the Orange]

No it's foolish, and just plain mean. I'm assuming you mean games. Saying you hate games is like saying you hate Music. It's so ignorant it makes my head hurt.

I was more specifically targeting anime because it gets hate on this site. Vidja games work just as well, but I didn't use it as the example because you don't see hate on games from this community.

 

[Hollock]

I think a medium is a bit to broad to paint your hate over completely.
And anime is not a medium, it's a style. Animation is a medium, which includes western cartoons. (did you know that in Japan that they refer to all animation from Trigun to simpson as simply 'anime'? Yes, and when you say anime you are almost always reffering specifically to Japanese cartoons. Can we please stop saying this? )

 

[The Bum]

No it's foolish, and just plain mean. I'm assuming you mean games. Saying you hate games is like saying you hate Music. It's so ignorant it makes my head hurt.

I was more specifically targeting anime because it gets hate on this site. Vidja games work just as well, but I didn't use it as the example because you don't see hate on games from this community.

Oh, well then. It's still stupid to hate a whole genre. Saying you hate anime is like saying you hate Action tv.

 

[Ham_authority95]

It isn't like EVERY TV show or EVERY video game etc, etc, will have nothing that you'll like.

So yeah, it's pretty illogical.(All generalizations are)

 

[Lilani]

It seems the core argument here is whether anime is a medium or a genre. True, "anime" refers to a style of Japanese cartooning, but (on the Engrish end, anyway) it's also evolved into a bit of its own genre.

When I think "anime," I admit I do think of it more as a genre than a medium--flawed as that is. However, doesn't the same thing happen when you think about "cartoons?" Don't you automatically think of a collective group of more light-humored or even childish shows rather than riveting dramas? Cartooning is also a medium and not a genre, but most have come to think of it as just that, which ends up greatly limiting it as a medium.

Both of these judgments are based solely off of the style and look of the works. The difference between an anime and a regular cartoon is much easier to spot at a glance than a live-action crime drama from a live-action medical drama.

Also, because live-action has come to encompass just about every genre (comedies, tragedies, romances, dramas, westerns) viewers have fewer standards and archetypes to draw on--essentially a blank slate of expectations created by the variety of its current body of work.

 

[Mr. Omega]

It isn't like EVERY TV show or EVERY video game etc, etc, will have nothing that you'll like.

So yeah, it's pretty illogical.(All generalizations are)

I'd say that sums up my opinion nicely, particularly the last part.

 

[Eric the Orange]

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Anime isn't a genre, it's an art style.

 

[Jaythulhu]

No. There is nothing logical about hate. Hating something requires an intense amount of emotional and mental involvement, as well as a lot of time. It's far more logical to not waste the time and effort caring enough to hate in the first place.

 

[VuvuZelaMan]

For example, is logical to hate TV shows? To clarify not the TV it self. Or what TV has become, or stereo typically is, But what TV has the potential to be.

Not to be confused with hating a genre. For example, I can't stand musicals (note here I don't want to say I hate or would disrespect people if they like musicals, it's just an opinion). But that doesn't mean I dislike movies. And with the most recent addition of the escapist you can see a lot of people who have hate for JRPGs (a lot of it sadly seems to be blind hate).

I ask this because I've seen people express the opinion that the hate anime. Which is a medium of art, not so much a genre. I feel that most of the hate for anime is that people classify it as a genre rater than a medium. The only logical justification that I can think of is disliking the specific art style, but that doesn't seem to be the reason most people give for there hate of anime.

So to reiterate the question. Is it logical to hate a medium?

Well, insofar as hatred of ANYTHING is logical, sure. Provided, of course, that what is hated is an aspect of the medium.

To use your example, hating anime because of shonen genre aspects is inaccurate. But if the eyes creep you out, or if you find the art style insulting to those with artistic talent, then your hatred being of the medium is correct.

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I think a medium is a bit to broad to paint your hate over completely.
And anime is not a medium, it's a style. Animation is a medium, which includes western cartoons. (did you know that in Japan that they refer to all animation from Trigun to simpson as simply 'anime'? Yes, and when you say anime you are almost always reffering specifically to Japanese cartoons. Can we please stop saying this? )

OK, so technically anime isn't a true medium, but rather a style. I'd guess it's the next grouping down - a 'sub-medium' of sorts - but it's the same sort of grouping as a medium (that is, it groups based on presentation rather than content).

 

[TeeBs]

No, but I do hate how Tv and Movies are considered two different mediums. I mean what the fuck.

 

[FriedRicer]

you can hate anime.its not illogical....sigh this is the like the tenth anime-likeness thread this week...wats up with that?

P.S.-anime is overall not as animated as other forms or animation.

 

[Jason Brett-Williams]

I think one takes offense more at the message the medium conveys. I hate extreme right and left wing radio. Doesn't mean I stop listening to radio, I just avoid those channels.