Is it logical to hate a medium?
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But it's a genre of the broader medium of animation.Eric the Orange said:
Anyways, no, it's not logical to hate an entire medium. I think it's also completely and totally illogical to hate a game because of the parent company, the genre, or the player base, but we all do it anyways. There's not much you can do about it, because in the end, people are going to hate it regardless of how well you argue your point.
OK I admit the medium is animation, but it's still not a genre, it's an art style.theSovietConnection said:
It's not logical. It's certainly logical the dislike the popular forms of the medium or what you've seen of the medium, but anyone can find at least one thing in any disliked form that they really like. It's like how perfectly straight guys will have a celebrity mancrush (or how I, a perfectly homosexual woman, have a weak spot for the voice actor who does MGS's Vamp).
Thinking that all of a certain medium are the same, generally when it's negative in this forum it's anime or JRPG, is not accurate. That would be like saying that all oil paintings are the same by basis of being done out of oil paints. In reality there are the super realistics and the straight line modern art, and so on. And you will also find super realistic and straight line modern in charcoal, and silver, and wood, because a medium is just how the creator chose to get the point across. Granted different mediums have different connotations but for the most part you can get the same message across in any media.
The message is the important thing, the medium is just how the creator presents it.
Thinking that all of a certain medium are the same, generally when it's negative in this forum it's anime or JRPG, is not accurate. That would be like saying that all oil paintings are the same by basis of being done out of oil paints. In reality there are the super realistics and the straight line modern art, and so on. And you will also find super realistic and straight line modern in charcoal, and silver, and wood, because a medium is just how the creator chose to get the point across. Granted different mediums have different connotations but for the most part you can get the same message across in any media.
The message is the important thing, the medium is just how the creator presents it.
anime is not a medium it is an art style-medium would be animation in general or books.
regardless of the creators message if the medium is unliked THAT IT!
ex-people who like movies based on books but not the book itself
regardless of the creators message if the medium is unliked THAT IT!
ex-people who like movies based on books but not the book itself
Maybe not, but it's not the first time that someone has that comparison...I think it's already been done about 3 times, so I'm a little bit cranky with this example all the time.Eric the Orange said:
Why not the question of why our medium is filled with zombies all of a suddenly?
No, it's hardly logical to dismiss in advance everything delivered through a certain technology, or from a certain geographical location.
Whether one care to invest the time and resources to find the stuff that might be appealing is another matter entirely. I'm not going to sit through 500 showings of interpretive dance just to find out if there's one show I like, and I wouldn't expect or recommend someone to dive headfirst into Anime or Hollywood movies - both as much a desert of crap with an oasis of brilliance here and there as anything else - to do the same if they're not subjectively curious about the medium.
On the other hand, since I've not seen it all, I won't make any blanket statement about interpretive dance either. I'll just state that I don't want to invest myself into finding the pieces of quality stuff within it I might also like, because subjectively - and without any logically stringent reason - I have no curiosity or interest towards it.
Whether one care to invest the time and resources to find the stuff that might be appealing is another matter entirely. I'm not going to sit through 500 showings of interpretive dance just to find out if there's one show I like, and I wouldn't expect or recommend someone to dive headfirst into Anime or Hollywood movies - both as much a desert of crap with an oasis of brilliance here and there as anything else - to do the same if they're not subjectively curious about the medium.
On the other hand, since I've not seen it all, I won't make any blanket statement about interpretive dance either. I'll just state that I don't want to invest myself into finding the pieces of quality stuff within it I might also like, because subjectively - and without any logically stringent reason - I have no curiosity or interest towards it.
what if you didnt like anime at all? the art and animation were enough to deter you from enjoying the show?Then it wouldnt matter what it was.this could apply to games books etc...tho its games that people do this to the most.Imperator_DK said:
I am not a fan of anime whatsoever, but Akira was an incredible film. I stumbled upon it one night on tv and was just blown away. Granted, I didn't get in to anime at all, and other than DBZ and Lupin the Third I've never really liked another anime.
My point is that in a medium or even genre you despise there is probably something there you would really like. Another example: I hate musicals, but Rent was so good I bought the two-disc DVD.
To answer the original question, I believe it is illogical to hate a medium. Genres I can say it's pretty logical like I can understand someone hating horror films/books, but with a medium...it's just too vast. Like TV, film, radio, or even video games. Someone like Roger Ebert (who I am a huge fan of) dismissing a whole medium is absurd to me. I can't believe there isn't one game he wouldn't enjoy.
Also, anime is a not a medium. It's a genre. A medium would be a channel of delivering something, and anime is delivered the same thing as anything else. When it comes down to it anime is just a Japanese cartoon.
My point is that in a medium or even genre you despise there is probably something there you would really like. Another example: I hate musicals, but Rent was so good I bought the two-disc DVD.
To answer the original question, I believe it is illogical to hate a medium. Genres I can say it's pretty logical like I can understand someone hating horror films/books, but with a medium...it's just too vast. Like TV, film, radio, or even video games. Someone like Roger Ebert (who I am a huge fan of) dismissing a whole medium is absurd to me. I can't believe there isn't one game he wouldn't enjoy.
Also, anime is a not a medium. It's a genre. A medium would be a channel of delivering something, and anime is delivered the same thing as anything else. When it comes down to it anime is just a Japanese cartoon.
Given just how many art styles and forms of presentation there are within Anime (this [http://www.news-anime.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/higurashi.jpg] is hardly the same as this [http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs34/f/2008/289/d/c/Monster_Without_Name_by_Kira_Sakuya.jpg] or this [http://clintjcl.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/delme-thecount.jpg]), I find it highly unlikely that anyone could in advance dismiss every single one of them.FriedRicer said:
One could of course (theoretically) dislike any and all forms of animation, but that would be most subjectively, not logically founded. There is no rational basis for doing so. And - like with the dismissal of all video games as bad - it would seem the result of ignorance on what is possible with the art form.
According to formal logic... You can't really prove anything. It seems dumb but we have to be cool and let everyone have there own opinion and its certainly not a good thing to damn an opinion simply because we don't agree.