no. no. no. its fantastic. dont get me wrong. but those cliff racers made me rage so hard and the fact that you cant walk more than about .005 mph ruined the whole experience for me. so yeah. buy it i guess if you can put up with that. i personally can't. at some point i wanted to BE somewhere other than the woods.
Is Morrowind worth buying?
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You think the graphics are awful? I thought they were pretty sweet considering what how much has to be made.Popadoo said:
A bazzilion times yes you should get it. The only thing I remember being bad with it is the graphics but that isn't so much of an issue to be honest.
The game is fucking huge but can be done in around 7 minutes, if you want a speed run.
The game expects you to do certain things at certain levels, and if you come back later to do them, certain quests will be easier.Popadoo said:
The difficulty curve definately goes in reverse, but with efficent leveling, you can deal with that.
To ease the graphical transition, I suggest: http://morrowindoverhaul.net/blog/
Also this: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6173
And you might wanna mod the leveling system since it's rather annoying (but only slightly moreso then oblivion's).
And get used to more walking, there's a lot less quick transit options.
But overall the game is better and much more immersive.
Haha, like flies drawn to honey. As you can see Popadoo, those of us who played it years ago, remember it as probably the best RPG and exploration game ever made. While many of the newer RPG's since have had some better parts none have had the charm of Morrowind. The story in particular is on par (or even better) than KOTOR's. The old graphics (while amazing in their time) and the clunky combat might now make you miss the immersion what we felt, which is a shame because Morrowind is the most immersive game many of us have ever played.
Wait a minute?! Are you saying that Morrowind is backwards compatiple with my 360?! I need a reply right now! How does it perform? Does the game crash on a regular basis?Newhouse said:If you don't already own morrowind then shame on you. Also if you do buy it 1) Buy the game of the year edition to get tribunal and bloodmoon and 2) theres a mod for the pc version of morrowind thats brings it to an oblivion graphical standard if thats a concern. I think the mods on file planet. I own Morrowind for xbox (and can still play it on 360) so I don't know if the mod actually runs well but hey its an option. WARNING. This game will not fucking hold your hand like oblivion. No quick travel and you won't always get a map marker to where your going. You have to explore for yourself and thats half the fun of it really. That and the amount of quests and armor/weapon choices lets you really define your character. That and you can join the Morag Tong or Imperial Legion in this one. Also it feels like a bigger world because your not fast traveling everywhere. Just get the game.
If you can forgive aged graphics and some what flawed combat, its is a brilliant buy. Also Incredibly cheap now a days.
On PC though, theres mods that make the graphics look better than vanilla Oblivion.
And if you endure the combat system for about 3 hours, you will have leveled up enough for it not to be a problem.
On PC though, theres mods that make the graphics look better than vanilla Oblivion.
And if you endure the combat system for about 3 hours, you will have leveled up enough for it not to be a problem.
You N'wah!syrus27 said:
To OP: Buy the shit out of it, what it lacks in graphics it more than makes up for in everything else, and Bloodmoon has to be one of my favourite expansions to a game to date.
It's definitely an amazing game. To me it's richer in lore, more immersive, better from artistic point of view and feels like it has more content than Oblivion. I don't regret many hours I've spent playing it.
That being said graphics are a bit dated, lvling system isn't to everyone's taste (skills in Oblivion are more refined), combat is awful (dice rolling and stats decide will you actually hit something, but growing up on D&D RPG's that never bothered me), not as much fast travel options, no compass(meaning you'll have to read your quest log carefully to learn where you have to go,which somewhat adds to immersion),couple of NPC bugs...
But considering a number of user-made patches and mods, and it's low price I think it's worth the risk. At least so you can say you played it, or show your kids how games looked in "ye olden days"
That being said graphics are a bit dated, lvling system isn't to everyone's taste (skills in Oblivion are more refined), combat is awful (dice rolling and stats decide will you actually hit something, but growing up on D&D RPG's that never bothered me), not as much fast travel options, no compass(meaning you'll have to read your quest log carefully to learn where you have to go,which somewhat adds to immersion),couple of NPC bugs...
But considering a number of user-made patches and mods, and it's low price I think it's worth the risk. At least so you can say you played it, or show your kids how games looked in "ye olden days"
I would have to disagree with Oblivion's graphics being awful. I think they're rather good. Probably the reason they look bad is because the people look bad, and it kind of drags the whole thing down a bit.
But as for Morrowind, GET IT. It's incredible. The story is far more interesting than Oblivion (IMO), the game world is larger, and I find the setting of Vvardenfell a lot more interesting than Cyrodiil because of the history and culture of it. Granted, if you think Oblivion's graphic are bad then you really won't think much of Morrowind's, but some graphical mods quickly sort that out and they end up looking pretty good (do remember that the game is from 2003). One of it's major drawbacks is the combat system, which is frankly rather pitiful, but really you just have to get used to it and after that it's alright. Of course is going to feel a bit more limited than Oblivion, with the text dialogue and such, but there are a lot of mods out there that add scripts and schedules to make it more dynamic.
It will take some getting used to after Oblivion, but it's well worth it.
But as for Morrowind, GET IT. It's incredible. The story is far more interesting than Oblivion (IMO), the game world is larger, and I find the setting of Vvardenfell a lot more interesting than Cyrodiil because of the history and culture of it. Granted, if you think Oblivion's graphic are bad then you really won't think much of Morrowind's, but some graphical mods quickly sort that out and they end up looking pretty good (do remember that the game is from 2003). One of it's major drawbacks is the combat system, which is frankly rather pitiful, but really you just have to get used to it and after that it's alright. Of course is going to feel a bit more limited than Oblivion, with the text dialogue and such, but there are a lot of mods out there that add scripts and schedules to make it more dynamic.
It will take some getting used to after Oblivion, but it's well worth it.
Of course Morrowind worth buying...
1) It's deep. As a guy, who lives on one of Russian TES communities, I can inform you that there are 100-page threads discussing Morrowind storyline.
2) It's original. While Cyrodiil is quite generic post-medieval image, Morrowind draws interesting and wery different from usual culture of Dunmers. Ashlander tribes, Great Houses, the Temple... Architecture, creatures, landscapes are all unforgettable.
3) Graphics. Even basic morrowind still looks good. After using MGE with grass mods and texture/model replacers you can get a picture BETTER then Oblivion.
4) "Tamriel Rebuilt" project is getting close for finishing. This lore-based plugin restores ALL the territory of province Morrowind, adding about FIVE original territories size to explore.
I've summarized what I like in Morrowind in this video. It's not the best, but it's the only cummulative MGE-Morrowind video I've found on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy6cl4lY9Fs
Morrowind requires more, but it pays off. You have much more freedom in your actions, you have more integrated organizations (in Oblivion Guilds do not interact, in Morrowind - they do), you have more visible effect of growing up character due to much more adequate leveling, and the game is actually CHALLENGING. And that's great.
1) It's deep. As a guy, who lives on one of Russian TES communities, I can inform you that there are 100-page threads discussing Morrowind storyline.
2) It's original. While Cyrodiil is quite generic post-medieval image, Morrowind draws interesting and wery different from usual culture of Dunmers. Ashlander tribes, Great Houses, the Temple... Architecture, creatures, landscapes are all unforgettable.
3) Graphics. Even basic morrowind still looks good. After using MGE with grass mods and texture/model replacers you can get a picture BETTER then Oblivion.
4) "Tamriel Rebuilt" project is getting close for finishing. This lore-based plugin restores ALL the territory of province Morrowind, adding about FIVE original territories size to explore.
I've summarized what I like in Morrowind in this video. It's not the best, but it's the only cummulative MGE-Morrowind video I've found on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy6cl4lY9Fs
Morrowind requires more, but it pays off. You have much more freedom in your actions, you have more integrated organizations (in Oblivion Guilds do not interact, in Morrowind - they do), you have more visible effect of growing up character due to much more adequate leveling, and the game is actually CHALLENGING. And that's great.
If going from whatever you usually play to oblivion was a hurdle than going from oblivion to morrowind may be nothing short of a shock.
Overall I think it was way better. For one it's way more expansive: dozens of towns, the main quest takes ages, joinable vampire clans,... Just to name a few things.
But you are gonna have to bear with it's odd perks: there's some serious balance issues with some skills, no quick travel (wich is not such a bad thing because it makes things more immersive but you WILL curse it), enchanting is way more complicated than it should be, the graphics are meh even with mods,... Oblivion may have gotten a lot of things wrong but it fixed just as many of morrowind's problems.
And finally: for better or for worse, it's "realistic" compared to oblivion. Stuff doesn't level up with you so you can and will run into monsters that can 2-hit you (quicksave is your friend). Especially when you are low level. And deadric/glass/ebony stuff will not only appear when you are high level yourself, it can be found at any level. Sometimes you will even find it just laying about on a shelf or something. In fact, I know of a way to get yourself 1 deadric weapon of your choice and a small fortune without fighting a single monster, wich can be done at any level.
Note: personally I find the balance issues not such a big deal. In a multiplayer game it would be a serious problem because everyone would flock to certain skillbuilds but in a single player game it just adds realism. After all, not all skills are equally usefull and figuring this out is part of becoming stronger.
Final tip: don't make a pure magic guy for your first character. Making a good mage in morrowind isn't impossible, but it's nearly a science.
EDIT: ohohohohoh you want details eh? Ok, buckle up!
-Non-generic setting: the first time I saw their local mode of transportation I thought it was a bossmonster
-Have your own castle/town built
-Memorable locations: from swamptowns to huge cities to mushroomtowers.
-Tons of factions, most of them joinable, some secret. All of them have loads of quests and becoming their leader or whatever takes an actual effort. They also have rivalries going on so sometimes you will have to pick a side.
-Way more weapon types: For marksmen oblivion just has bows while morrowind has bows, crossbows, throwing stars and darts. There's also an entirely new weapon type: spears.
-over the top magic: it's hard to get into but given some research you will eventually find yourself nuking cities with one spell and crossing the map in a single jump.
Honestly I can go on all day
Overall I think it was way better. For one it's way more expansive: dozens of towns, the main quest takes ages, joinable vampire clans,... Just to name a few things.
But you are gonna have to bear with it's odd perks: there's some serious balance issues with some skills, no quick travel (wich is not such a bad thing because it makes things more immersive but you WILL curse it), enchanting is way more complicated than it should be, the graphics are meh even with mods,... Oblivion may have gotten a lot of things wrong but it fixed just as many of morrowind's problems.
And finally: for better or for worse, it's "realistic" compared to oblivion. Stuff doesn't level up with you so you can and will run into monsters that can 2-hit you (quicksave is your friend). Especially when you are low level. And deadric/glass/ebony stuff will not only appear when you are high level yourself, it can be found at any level. Sometimes you will even find it just laying about on a shelf or something. In fact, I know of a way to get yourself 1 deadric weapon of your choice and a small fortune without fighting a single monster, wich can be done at any level.
Note: personally I find the balance issues not such a big deal. In a multiplayer game it would be a serious problem because everyone would flock to certain skillbuilds but in a single player game it just adds realism. After all, not all skills are equally usefull and figuring this out is part of becoming stronger.
Final tip: don't make a pure magic guy for your first character. Making a good mage in morrowind isn't impossible, but it's nearly a science.
EDIT: ohohohohoh you want details eh? Ok, buckle up!
-Non-generic setting: the first time I saw their local mode of transportation I thought it was a bossmonster
-Have your own castle/town built
-Memorable locations: from swamptowns to huge cities to mushroomtowers.
-Tons of factions, most of them joinable, some secret. All of them have loads of quests and becoming their leader or whatever takes an actual effort. They also have rivalries going on so sometimes you will have to pick a side.
-Way more weapon types: For marksmen oblivion just has bows while morrowind has bows, crossbows, throwing stars and darts. There's also an entirely new weapon type: spears.
-over the top magic: it's hard to get into but given some research you will eventually find yourself nuking cities with one spell and crossing the map in a single jump.
Honestly I can go on all day
