Is Pubic Hair In A Bikini Obscene?

[SanguiniusMagnificum]

They were right to take the pictures down. It is obscene.
Put it away woman! She got the tiniest bikini bottoms she could find, then did a extreme closeup of her crotch, with her barely covered vagina.You're really desperate when you can see the top and bottom of the hair!
Damn right they took it down! She's straight up showing off her crotch to get attention!
She looks like she stuffed a wig down her tiny, too small, obscenely revealing, bottoms!

Cretinous morons desperately trying to get attention aside.

There is a reason it's not acceptable in society. It's nasty. Really, really, nasty.
Seriously, if you're going to wear a disgusting tart outfit, shave your crotch hair off enough to not show!

It's the same for both genders. It's firetrucking gross to see crotch hair hanging out of swimwear.

And that's saying something, because I would never shave my crotch. No ones going to see me in anything other than fully dressed, so it does'nt matter. I will NEVER wear swimwear, of any kind!

It's not the same if you swam naked. Then you can be as hairy as you want down there.

Hair on the stomach, that's something else. That's fine. Unless it's like really high, then shave it.
The hair on females stomaches is usually hidden in underwear.
If you are so stupid as to wear one of those tart outfits, and go so ultra tart, that people can see the hair on your lower stomach, then you're practically naked to begin with.
A functional bikini would cover you hair on your lower stomach as well as knickers would.

Males are hairy all over. The hair is all joined up and visable. That fine.
They should trim their crotchs so the hair does'nt show in swimwear though.

The female stomach hair thing is a anomaly. Women are not as visablely hairy, so if a woman did have hair beyond the normal levels, it looks wrong. It's like female facial hair. It does'nt look right.

No sensible person would wear bikinis to begin with. They are disgusting outfits that make anyone stupid enough to wear them look like a tart.

All swimwear looks atrocious. On both genders. But it looks especially appalling on females.

A one piece swimsuit makes you look tarty or drags you breasts down and makes you look fatter and worse than you are. It's tart or frump.
A bikini makes anyone look like a tart. Every single time.

Sooo.... if bikinis are "disgusting outfits that make anyone stupid enough to wear them look like a tart" and one piece swimsuits "make you look tarty or drags you breasts down and makes you look fatter and worse than you are", then what do you wear when you're going for a swim, a burqini?

 

[Battenberg]

If you're a guy and you want to pull off a Speedo then you need to be tanned, have a swimmer's body and have shaven your chest, legs and pubic area. Otherwise it just looks god-awful...

How exactly does one get tanned without going outside untanned first? Also on a more serios note why does the tan even matter? I genuinely don't get the obsession with changing your skin colour just because you can, particularly with the risks that come with certain tanning methods.

On topic - Perhaps a silly question but are there images on Instagram of guys with their pubes on display to the same extent who aren't getting banned? If not then the gender argument seems a little irrelevant here. I mean there obviously is a massive divide between beauty standards for men and women but if Instagram are treating all cases like this the same, regardless of gender, then there's not really any need to accuse them of sexism, that only serves to detract from legitimate cases of it.

That aside it does seem silly to ban someone over something like this, I assume whoever came up with this rule is one of those people who doesn't like any kind of reminder that we all have genitals hidden away under our clothes, the kind of person who deals in absolutes when it comes to good and bad.

 

[Barbas]

but that's just my personal opinion since I've never been one to like body hair; I think it looks untidy and is unhygienic.

the funy thing is its probably more hygenic to have hair down there.

That's...actually surprising. I wouldn't have thought that hairy areas tend to be more prone to afflictions. Eh, I guess there must be some reason why humans grow so much of the stuff, though.

OT: Actually not really that noticeable from a distance and surprisingly not that shocking either. Still, I guess someone must be deciding to draw the line somewhere when it comes to people...erm...falling out of their clothing. >.>

 

[Vault101]

That's...actually surprising. I wouldn't have thought that hairy areas tend to be more prone to afflictions. Eh, I guess there must be some reason why humans grow so much of the stuff, though.
>.>

why would that be surprsing? they are sensitive areas and if theres hair down there it might be for a reason

 

[Haunted Serenity]

I personally have the opinion that since everyone is naked under their clothes, nudity and/or almost nudity should be no ones concern except the wearer(or un-wearer)of clothes. If you don't like that, go look at yourself naked in front of mirror. Someone else looks pretty similar to you, isn't that awesome! How you "look" should not affect anything. I as a male you looks like a wookie under my clothes(it is cold where I reside)personally do not like my body hair, as far as anyone else's goes. That is up to them.

 

[Loonyyy]

I don't accept the excuse that it's more difficult or more effort for men to shave.

Probably because you don't have balls hanging down there which are definitely more complicated to shave then the rest of the area.
I'd say trimming was just as easy but not shaving i wouldn't ever try shaving them balls again its to scary, trim instead quick & easy.

What you shaving with? A cut-throat razor? Cos shaving down there is far easier than shaving my face ever was. There's no pesky skull getting in the way for a start.

All these people saying they're cutting themselves or that they can't? It's called a safety razor. It's like a buck. Get one, use it for a week or so, then chuck it. Sharp razor, less likely to cut you because you don't have to press. Who the hell is having trouble with this shaving their balls nonsense? Be grateful you've never nicked the clitoral hood. When most people cut themselves shaving, it's because of laziness. You don't bother switching up your razor even though it's blunt (Got myself a few times like that). You try to clear out a razor of stubble with your fingernail (The worst). If women have to shave because it's unsightly, but you don't because "Balls", then you're a sexist, and not a particularly sneaky one.

Shaving is about as hard a task as brushing your teeth, except after shaving, I don't have to floss my face, or balls, or whatever. Come back when you're trying to cultivate a beard without it growing too long or patchily in places, and without ending up with an unsightly mess on your neck, that's a challenge. Damn hairs on my face extending over my jawline, get back where you belong!

OT: While I think the pubic hair is unsightly, it's not obscene. It's not "Part of the pubic area" (Please, go read a book on anatomy. The hair does not make it part of the genitals). Particularly since, when shaved, the area is NOT considered obscene. That's silly. If you don't like the look (I don't), don't like it. It's not somehow "Obscene", (And "obscenity" as a cultural and legal concept has a pretty rough history, namely as a means of spreading specific christian ethics, sexual liberation, censorship (Which gamers seem to love getting up in arms about, particularly the closet misogynists), and oppressing homosexuals and radicals) just because you think it's unsightly, especially if the shaved area is fine.

Also, what the hell do you guys think a "Treasure trail" "Snail Trail" etc is? It's fucking pubes. It joins up with the hair and extends up the stomach. There's no difference(And don't say the stomach placement matters, because this wasn't pubes covering labia, or vulva or anything "dirty", have none of these people seen female genitals?). So yes, we have men walking around with exposed pubes all the damn time.

 

[Scow2]

Wear a bikini that completely covers the pubic hair next time, then. Pubic hair is part of the genital area, and should not be shown in public or uncensored online.

If there's a gendered double-standard, it's that women are allowed to show off more of their bodies than a male - a guy needs to wear something that spans from the bottom of the hip to the top, while women don't. Males don't usually wear anything that threatens to expose pubic hair, either. A similar complaint would be if a well-endowed male were to complain that he's being persecuted for an image with his junk showing because a man who's smaller down there (Or took the time to tuck it away) can get away with showing the same area sans junk in the way.

That said, there are still sexist issues (Such as taboos about female breasts that are extremely unhealthy for society - a woman's chest is no more obscene than a male's). But genital exposure (Including pubic hair) is not one of them.

Somebody has never heard of a 'Budgie Smuggler' then. Even if you're the smallest hung man in the world it still gives a solid play-by-play of your penile movements, yet is completely ok to wear to the beach.

And uhhh... no, the double standard on the women here with the whole 'hair' thing - as numerous people have said, blokes can look like they're wrapped in grizzly fur while women have to be nice, clean and shaven otherwise they're 'weird'. The amount of pubic hair in this picture is nothing compared to the bush I've seen some blokes tote down at the beach too...

What you actually expose on the beach is not the same as what you post/highlight in an image - and a woman with hairy legs/chest/arms/pits/belly/etc., while it may get a few "Ewws" from people who hold the female body to an unrealistic standard, isn't as obscene as exposing pubic hair is. (Frankly, I think "it's allowed on the beach" isn't a good standard for what's allowed for general viewing on the web - beaches have looser standards) Also - the other problem with the image is that it puts the female's pubes front-and-center - There wouldn't have been the same commotion if it had been something like a family or solo shoot emphasizing the entire figure (instead of just the exposed crotch), or someone with a bare bush photobombing another image. Photographic intent matters. This is a "Teehee - I'm showing off my pubic hair" image.

And, the "Budgie Snuggler" still covers the penis - it's not like itleaves the balls or tip hanging out completely. I've not seen them expose pubic hair, either - though the pubic hair equivalent on a female is a bikini bottom that's puffed out from the bush (With some of the texture imprinted on the outside), but not actually showing any of the hair (Or a bikini with a camel toe). Leaving the contours visible =/= actually exposing it.

If you have a larger bush, wear a bikini with a front large enough to conceal it.

 

[Lucem712]

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Not in defence of her or anything; but, I can assure you that there are much much tinier bikini bottoms in existence. A simple search for 'tiny bikini' will show you some that are basically an inch of masking tape & string.

OT: In regards to if such a photo should get her account shut down, I did a brief search on Instragram & saw a much more revealing photo of a guy in a snug semi-mesh speed camera angled looking down at his junk basically with out much left to the imagination, along with a guy laying down clearly naked, showing thick pubic (clearly pubic hair from the different thickness) & stomach hair with the photo cut off before you saw any kibbles n' bits. So, yeah. If I've learnt anything, it's that 99.9% of people look awful in a speedo.

 

[Gali]

Meh, I'm kinda on the fence. I don't think this picture is gross since it's not THAT much pubic hair from my point of view. I don't care how/what people shave. Though I'd be weirded out a little when I see a woman without shaved legs and armpits who is wearing certain clothes that reveal this fact. I only shave when I know someone would see it. Winter? Fuck you legs, I'm wearing long trousers anyway. Boyfriend's visiting? Well that is a whole different story.

The only location I find shaving really silly are arms. If you have caveman hair as a lady, yeah I can understand shaving it. Personally, I have a very pale skin and brown hair so one can clearly see that I have some hair on my arms. Shocking! Problem is, when I shave I get stubbles and the new growing hair gets darker. I already have to deal with this shit in other places so fuck that. I won't shave it so a random person finds me more attractive, I already have someone who thinks that way about me.

 

[Gatx]

There's no double standard here. It'd be equally obscene/gross for a male's pubic hair to be showing out of a speedo.

 

[Hagi]

Should her account have been deleted? No, might take the picture in question down though, their hosting, their rules.
Is it obscene? Nope, no more than any other natural part of the human body yet we make all kinds of strange rules there as well.
Is it a double standard? Nope, as has been pointed out a dozen times before male pubic hair isn't really anymore acceptable to show in a swimsuit.

 

[Treeberry]

OT: I'd say it doesn't matter whether the person is male of female, if they want to wear a speedo/monokini, then they should be expected to groom themselves accordingly. After all, it's not like there aren't any swimwear alternatives, like

I very rarely see bikinis with shorts in lieu of briefs. You can find plenty of stuff to cover up the top half but not the lower half.

I wonder if it's obscene if a guy wears speedos that make him look like he's got an erection? Because I've seen that a lot at beaches and pools. :/

 

[Batou667]

...You know, you would have had a point had you... actually linked a comic that was relevant to the issue. Dress in the office is different to dressing on the beach and as such you can't point at one and go 'fucking double standards in the other!'

I dunno, I think the inconsistent logic behind it is part of a wider whole. A woman is allowed to do what she wants with her body, at least in the liberalsphere - she can dress up, that's fine, she can dress down, that's fine, she can sexualise herself, that's fine, she can desexualise herself, that's fine. She can wear clothes that draw the eye to her boobs, butt or groin. She can show off her unshaved armpits or legs. She can wear a crop top that reveals her fat rolls, stretch marks and C-section scar. And, the most important thing, is that nobody is allowed to raise even the mildest criticism about whether their attire is appropriate - because that's judging and shaming and body-policing. The mildest rebuke is abusive, personal opinions are trolling, the most polite request to adhere to standards of modesty is fascism.

And it's a double standard because the same is never extended to men in a mainstream setting. Men aren't allowed to show up to a business meeting in a vest top or sandals. A man walking shirtless down the street would be viewed either as "grotesque" or "sexually aggressive", depending on his body type. A man's body hair or facial hair is always fair game for ridicule (except for a few instances where cultural or racial sensitivity would prevent it).

I'm not saying men have it worse than women - a lot of the fiercely-guarded female pride and body-positivity is no doubt reflective of the fact that women are usually placed under more pressure to look good, regardless of whether their role calls for it (politicians, sportswomen, etc). And yeah, there was nothing positive about the historical situation where women were forced into very restrictive (figuratively and literally) clothing lest they be condemned as socially unacceptable. The pendulum has swung the other way and women now claim the right to look however they like - which is great, mostly - but this same paradigm shift hasn't happened for men.

I very rarely see bikinis with shorts in lieu of briefs. You can find plenty of stuff to cover up the top half but not the lower half.

Spoiler

Eh, it exists, and it looks pretty good on skinny chicks. (Chubbier girls look better in a tankini, I think that's the rule of thumb?) There's also denim shorts, beach skirts or sarongs, that kind of thing.

you shouldn't get so upset over "tarts" not conforming to your standards...or call them tarts eather

Yeah, that's a disrespectful way to talk about bitches. [/Ali G reference]

 

[Strazdas]

Hair as a concept is something i dont like. I get why it was necessary for us evolutionary in the past, but now with invention of clothing it has became a hinderance. That being said, i will not shame anyone for not shaving, it is theri body and their decision. Heck, people tell me my hands and legs are unusually hairy but i care little about it. chest hair is the most annoying though, whoever thought it was sexy must have never had them.

If you're a guy and you want to pull off a Speedo then you need to be tanned

so you need to mutilate your skin to pull of a speedo?

 

[Eddie the head]

That's...actually surprising. I wouldn't have thought that hairy areas tend to be more prone to afflictions. Eh, I guess there must be some reason why humans grow so much of the stuff, though.
>.>

why would that be surprsing? they are sensitive areas and if theres hair down there it might be for a reason

You know what I hate? When people state vauge ideas on nature like they're fact. Hmm I seam to remember hearing something like that recently. Anyway yeah it might be there for a reason, or just as likely it might not be. Not everything in the human body evolved for a reason.

I'm not even saying this is wrong, but this line of thinking is.

 

[Vault101]

You know what I hate? When people state vauge ideas on nature like they're fact. Hmm I seam to remember hearing something like that recently. Anyway yeah it might be there for a reason, or just as likely it might not be. Not everything in the human body evolved for a reason.

I'm not even saying this is wrong, but this line of thinking is.

[i/]SOOOOOooooorryyyyyy[/i]

ok ok my wording was indicative of....some pretty shoddy reasoning certain people can have, I should have said it better

but again this idea that pubic hair is somehow "unclean" is a completely misguided idea due to popular society yadda yadda and it surprises me that it surprises some people...[i/]its just hair[/i]...I mean yeah, shaving down there is not the worst thing you can do and generally you'll be fine, but you are probably going to get some redness and some irritation (good chance of ingrowns too) and if your female a better chance of getting a yeast infection

 

[Ratty]

I don't get the pressure put on women to get rid of all their body hair. It's just mindless conformity that punishes women who do not wish or don't have the time/energy/money to waste on shaving or waxing so much of their body for no real reason. I'm a dude and I hate just having to shave my face. Body hair is perfectly natural on men AND women, why shame people for something that is intrinsic to their biology?

chest hair is the most annoying though, whoever thought it was sexy must have never had them.

Google image search Burt Reynolds (while not at work lol) and the 1970s obsession with hairy manly men will make more sense. As far as I can tell for the last 20 years or so though it's increasingly expected of men who want to show off their bodies to shave as well. Though I'd guess that's more a result of men shaving in sports culture.

 

[BeerTent]

I like how all the guys are like, "If I posted MY Pubic hair... I'd be shut down too!"

It's like they've never seen a woman with hair down there. Her hair can extend pretty far, whereas with a guy, you give it half an inch and it becomes part of "The trail." What the fuck is wrong with you guys? Of course, if you show off your pubic hair, you might as well pull down an extra quarter of an inch and let the damn thing flop out. Then it'd be REALLY obscene!

I'm fucking 26. That image? Nothing about that bothers me. While instagram is within their right, there is nothing wrong with her body or what she's showing off. Genitals are hidden, what more could you want on this side of the Atlantic?

Funny thing about this too? I'm willing to bet that without the hair, it'd probably someone's wank material. And they're just pissed that they're so shallow.

 

[Dragonbums]

It's really telling when having something as natural as fucking pubic hair showing on a women is considered "unseemingly".

It's like we are supposed to be hairless creatures or some shit.

I'm just gonna leave it at that.

 

[SUPA FRANKY]

Why did she take a picture of her crotch in the first place.