Is Sony done with Video Games?
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I hope not. I havn't played a sony game since PS2 but they do make great games. An i have had a lot of fun with the titles they have made in the pass. Hopefully if they ever pull out of the hardware business they will still make a publish games like Sega have done.
I'd be amazed if they rolled out the PS4 within the next two years. If they do, it would have to have internals that would allow them to make a profit right off the bat. Financially, they just couldn't sell the console at a loss at the moment. We'll see though.
Wow, massive brain fart on my end. Both Japanese companes starting with "S" and 4 letters long.MetalDooley said:
What does Sony produce? SOE games like Everquest and the now disconnected Star Wars: Galaxies, I guess? Somewhat successful but nothing compared to their immediate competition. Not to mention SOE has a pretty terrible reputation in the MMO market.
The PS4 will happen, the "Orbis" is just about complete so unless something really drastic happens there is no reason for them to scrap it. The PS Vita is salvageable too, but Sony need to get some decent games out for it. The 3DS appeared to be a huge flop at first, Nintendo turned it around though. The same could happen for the Vita but not until we get games for it. They struggled with the PSP though, still the PSP did what no other handheld ever managed to do. It survived and became a second handheld in a market dominated by Nintendo. Every other handheld pretty much died, so much so that few companies where ever brave enough to take a crack at the handheld market.
Microsoft reached the point where you no longer take losses on hardware far sooner than Sony, not sure of the exact date but around 2008 Microsoft made a profit on every single Xbox sold. Microsoft made huge revenues from advertising and Xbox live too. Dont forget the damage that hack did, the lawsuits they faced must have equaled the losses Microsoft made on the RRoD debacle. Not forgetting the PS3 managed a failure rate three times higher than the Wii and about half as much as the Xbox, so between their own failure rate and class action suits up the arse they far from win in that department. After M$ changed the processors the failure rate dropped dramatically (estimated at 4%, same as the Wii), the revisions are also where the console became profitable.s69-5 said:
M$ have made billions from the XBox division, they easily beat Sony finacially.
While that may or may not be true, its not cell phones people want. What they want is a portable device that isnt locked and restricted six ways from sunday that you are in violation of ToS simply by looking at it. You could completely remove the cell phone component and people would be interested so long as it had the freedom in its operating system.Andrewtheeviscerator said:
Sorry to be an arse but statistics>anecdotes. States estimate the PS3s failure rate to around 10-12%, early "Xenon" and "Zephyr" 360s (the 90nm CPUs) to be around 25%. After the introduction of the 65nm "Jasper" chips where introduced RRoD rates dropped to 1% with a total failure rate of 4%. You can go and find your own sources, I have little inclination to quote several dozen links and schematics of the various revisions the 360 has undergone.s69-5 said:
The Wii is and oddball but thats probably because its last gen hardware, Consoles of that era where far more reliable than the 360 or the PS3.
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Sod it I will put one link in that confirms my posts with a survey of over 16,000 consoles. https://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_Xbox360_PS3_Wii_Reliability_0809.pdf
It's the Nintendium.s69-5 said:
Sony had a slow start this gen, but they seem to be doing well now. When it was first released it was an overpriced system with no games. Now I think it has a better library (more variety and exclusives) and with the price drop I know a ton of people who picked one up. They won't drop out as long as they learn from their mistakes, but I'm afraid they will start copying the competitions BS.
Tech warranty and investment advisement firm>Game informer. You didnt read the PDF either did you? it said the RRoD rate could exceed 24% because most are only reported to Microsoft under their warranty and Microsoft did not give accurate statistics, there is a section in that PDF that also proves my earlier point.s69-5 said:
RRoD replacements set Microsoft back by $1.15b USD, Sony suffered much greater losses due to the lawsuits. Add in their own 10% failure rate and they have lost a lot more than the RRoD cost M$.
There is also a reason all the stats are old, the RRoD is old news and was fixed back in 2008.
All I can say is that I hope not.
Not because I like Sony, or their products, I've avoided them like the plague. But because having more competition in gaming is good for everyone and without the occaisonal PSP coming out to prod them Nintendo would probably slack off in the handheld market.
Not because I like Sony, or their products, I've avoided them like the plague. But because having more competition in gaming is good for everyone and without the occaisonal PSP coming out to prod them Nintendo would probably slack off in the handheld market.
I've never played Sly Cooper, but Crash is done. As a matter of fact all the mascot games are done, except maybe for Mario, and I'm grateful for it. Naughty Dog obviously doesn't want to go back making Crash games, and any other studio the franchise gets shipped off to is likely to do a hack job. Maybe they could try their hand at a downloadable side scrowler, maybe something like the new Rayman games... Otherwise it's best they just put him out to pasture.xPixelatedx said:
The biggest mistake Sony made (in their gaming devision) was pigheadedly trying to stay in the handheld market. With the PSP I can understand they wanted to get a finger in there. But seeing as it pretty much failed, and smartphone gaming took off like a rocket not long after, it wasn't the best plan to launch another handheld. A handheld that offers an experience most people simply don't care for.
Other than that, from what I've heard the real problem is that Sony's business mindset is very ridgid and old fashioned. The way the company is structured can't keep up with current times. At least, that's what I heard, I don't know if it's true.
I don't know if I'll buy a PS4, but then I'm not sure if I'm going to buy any new console. Gaming as a whole is going in a direction I don't quite care for. And this new generation is filling me with dread.
Personally, I love the Vita. It's the best console I've owned since the Dreamcast. That being said, if I were in charge of Sony, I wouldn't have invested in making the Vita. It's far too costly for both the consumer and Sony themselves to make, and they're not investing enough marketing in it.lunavixen said:
Problem is, if they were to just suddenly drop the Vita now, consumer faith in Sony would drop lower than ever. And not just consumers, but developers also. With the Saturn/ Dreamcast fiasco, Sega lost support from companies such as EA and, to a lesser extent, companies like Konami. Sony couldn't afford to make that risk. so they're in a very sticky situation with the Vita.
Regarding the PSP however, I'm not sure it's so easy to wave that console off as a failure. It's STILL selling very well in Japan, and I'm not sure if it's ever been either a financial failure or success in the west. Sure, it's not sold anywhere near as much as the DS, but that's not to say it hasn't made a profit.
On the main topic, I think as long as Sony continue to produce enough great game exclusives, advertise them correctly, then they ought to be fine. The only thing I would add is that, indeed, perhaps Sony should seek to making a cheaper console this generation. Generally speaking, I don't think gamers are as concerned about graphics now as they were 10 years ago. What people are wanting are great gaming experiences.
I do not use PSN, I think you can guess why not....... Not only that I did not get the 3G Vita so its almost always offline (you know its a mobile handheld) and I only own a handful of games for my consoles I like my PC better. How much activity my PSN account shows doesn't really matter either, it certainly proves I do own both Sony and Microsoft platforms. I have consistently criticized both companies as well, all you have done is try to claim how superior Sony is. That simple evidence shows who is the real fanboy. Do not mistake the fact I cannot be bothered arguing with fanboys for some kind of victory either.s69-5 said:
No word about your bullshit statistics? (two can play that silly game, I put it down to you not wanting to argue. not "victory") Now really I am done, you can reply again if you want. You probably will as you will feel the need to have the last word but I will not even read it, but go ahead knock yourself out.
I never meant that they should drop out of the handheld market right now, i mean, let the vita run its course (seeing as it's already out), but make no more new ones in the next generation. Regarding the PSP, compared to the DS, the PSP has not sold all that well, because Nintendo have supported their handheld market really well, whereas Sony has pushed the PS3 more. The vita and the PSP both had poor launch titles and were/are relying on future promise, i think that both the PSP and the vita could have sold better if they had a better launch line up, the vitas sales may yet pick up though.Terramax said:
The Vita needs games, it also needs a price revision on the memory cards. There are only 5 or so games you would really want for it, depending on what type of games you like. The exorbitant price of the memory cards kill the other Vita function and prevent it from becoming a viable media player, storage simply costs to much per GB to fill it up with videos. Some people complain about the price of the Vita itself, personally I do not. £200 is a large amount of money but what you actually get for that is fairly good value. Look at the type of smartphone or tablet you would get for that much, nothing really comes close. Some things are cheaper sure but nothing else really comes with a pair of quad core processors and a 5 inch high res OLED screen with a fairly decent pixel density. The thing is though even cheap tablets like the Nexus 7 have at least 16GB of internal storage, leaving that out was a terrible mistake.lunavixen said:
The main problems are it being proprietarytastic, not enough games and overpriced storage.