Is Square racist?
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Yes the image from Tom Sawyer is racist, we've spent years denouncing those depictions from the first half of the 20th century in Western media for a while now. Japan doesn't get a pass.
I wonder if people aren't jumping to defend Japan's cultural differences because it's Japan. People, especially here where most of the membership loves Japanese culture will defend Japan when maybe they shouldn't. I kind of think that if this had been from another country, like say Germany, or China people wouldn't be so quick to defend them.
Japan's portrayal of other cultures in media has historically not been great, they're getting better now though. Barret wasn't racist, but he was absolutely a stereotype. Now there's the whole are stereotypes racist thing and I don't want to do that. They absolutely can be, but a lot of the time they're just stupid.
I wonder if people aren't jumping to defend Japan's cultural differences because it's Japan. People, especially here where most of the membership loves Japanese culture will defend Japan when maybe they shouldn't. I kind of think that if this had been from another country, like say Germany, or China people wouldn't be so quick to defend them.
Japan's portrayal of other cultures in media has historically not been great, they're getting better now though. Barret wasn't racist, but he was absolutely a stereotype. Now there's the whole are stereotypes racist thing and I don't want to do that. They absolutely can be, but a lot of the time they're just stupid.
I'd say that Square, and Japanese natives as a whole, are more racially ignorant/ insensitive than maliciously racist. I don't think many of them hate us.
What about Sazh? [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/User:Hamfruitcake_09/Sazh]Elamdri said:
No I do not think that Square is racist in any shape or form. A company which is not a sentient being cannot be racist. The people in it might be but I never saw a problem with Barret. Sure he had stereotypical characteristics but he also had a rich back story and was a strong character at the time.
Not any more or less than any other company based in a country that didn't birth people that have dark skin.
You seem to be shocked to find out that racism isn't something that American white men invented to ease their conscience when keeping African slaves. It's not.
You seem to be shocked to find out that racism isn't something that American white men invented to ease their conscience when keeping African slaves. It's not.
Ditto.Johnnyallstar said:
I thought TC was going to mention FF 13 that includes a "step n' fetchit" type of character that lets a bird live in his afro.
Makes me very uncomfortable, but I don't know I can call it racism per say.
Racism implies genuine hatred, and i don't get that vibe from Square. They're not racist, merely bone-shattering STUPID.
Yeah there is something to that. Why did they have to make the Crackdown cop white?Monkfish Acc. said:
I still don't see how people can say Barret's racist. He looks like Mister T, and no matter how you slice it, Mister T is a black man, so unless Mister T's existence is in and of itself racist, then calling a character who looks like him racist is ridiculous.
On the case of Jim, and I'm probably alone in this, but I don't see the exaggeration of physical traits as racist, like at all. Black people have darker skin and bigger lips than Asians (not pictured bigger noses) to deny this is to deny genetics, and quite frankly if this picture is racist, so is any caricature, including the type you get in a park.
Also, it's been a while since I read Tom Sawyer, but I don't remember Jim playing a large part at all. Are you sure this isn't Huck Finn?
On the case of Jim, and I'm probably alone in this, but I don't see the exaggeration of physical traits as racist, like at all. Black people have darker skin and bigger lips than Asians (not pictured bigger noses) to deny this is to deny genetics, and quite frankly if this picture is racist, so is any caricature, including the type you get in a park.
Also, it's been a while since I read Tom Sawyer, but I don't remember Jim playing a large part at all. Are you sure this isn't Huck Finn?
As a black man, I have to ask, does the fact I eat watermelon and chicken make me racist?EllEzDee said:
Yeah satire and carricatures are very likely to be understood racist, when the depicted is not white. Strangely no one ever claimed it the other way around. If finally you could stop to look at colours here, we all can have a laugh together.justnotcricket said:
(anyone remember the southpark episode about the city-flag?)
Thats the spirit i wanna see. Everyone crying out wolves here, is at least as prejudice as the one (s)he is pointing at at many times.
the new south park flag
I hate when people think it's racist to caricature an appearance. Black people look different from white people or asian people. Drawing them highlighting the difference is not racist because the one thing you can fairly judge a person by their race on is their appearance. It doesn't matter if 1/10th of the time that caricature looks ugly. Is mad magazines ugly mascot a racist portrayal of a ginger kid? No it's a funny caricature. If barret is a stereotype then so is Yuffie.
Uh, people, chill.
I really don´t think we want to go down that road.
If you go through "western" games and judge the racism of the devs by how often or how blatantly they use stereotypical attributes or depictions associated with race in their games, it shall not end well for us.
I think I have yet to play a modern fps without a BALP (black, angry, loud person).
I really don´t think we want to go down that road.
If you go through "western" games and judge the racism of the devs by how often or how blatantly they use stereotypical attributes or depictions associated with race in their games, it shall not end well for us.
I think I have yet to play a modern fps without a BALP (black, angry, loud person).