I have this idea for keeping arrows, always retrieve them fom the body. Skeleton characters never get impale by arrows.
Is this ''cheating?''
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The real question is why if you have 200 plus arrows do you run out? Maybe you need to practice your aim teeheexXxJessicaxXx said:
Maybe, though I worded that poorly. Should have said less of your arrows break so you can pull them out. Also you said you were a stealth archer so what level are you? Most of the time I've used stealth arrows they one hit most enemies.xXxJessicaxXx said:
Wow, I just remembered why I never used bows and arrows in Oblivion: ammo is a pain in the arse. Go download that arrow patch so you do more damage per hit.
i wouldn't really call it cheating. the real question is who'll care. obviously if it was a multiplayer game and you kept gifting yourself arrows your friends might get bothered that it "ruins immersion" or something, but if it's just you playing the only opinion you should be concerned about is your own. does it bother you? if not then keep doing it, if it's getting to you then stop. closest thing i've done to this was using cheats (real, undeniable, true cheating) to get free money to buy all my characters the best equipment in Legend of Dragoon (on the second playthrough because it just bothers me to cheat myself out of the first)
The best question for this situation is; who cares outside of you?xXxJessicaxXx said:
Really, don't take it as a rude statement. It's your single-player experience, does it really matter?
It's like when my Grandmother would cheat at solitaire and act like she shot JFK or something. Like, come on, no one else has a personal investment to the game outside of you. Cheating to me, is breaking the rules to give yourself an advantage over others. You can't get an advantage over yourself, so it's not cheating. If you're looking for a dedicated level of immersion, you're cheating yourself out of that; but you're not suddenly doubling Enigma Armors and trading them off in other games (SUP DIABLO 2!).
if I remember correctly, couldn't you just loot the arrows you shot at the people from their bodies?
but as for cheating... that's all up to you. cheats are more or less, to me anyways, a difficulty setting. It's like, there's hard, normal, easy, then cheat. in single player games anyways. multiplayer... cheaters should be drawn and quartered in rl. but otherwise it's just up to you how you want to play your own game. I used to be all about the cheat codes in the gaming mags (remember that?) when I was a kid, but now I enjoy a bit more of a challenge. Again... it's your call how you want to play it. unless it's multiplayer... then you die. >)
but as for cheating... that's all up to you. cheats are more or less, to me anyways, a difficulty setting. It's like, there's hard, normal, easy, then cheat. in single player games anyways. multiplayer... cheaters should be drawn and quartered in rl. but otherwise it's just up to you how you want to play your own game. I used to be all about the cheat codes in the gaming mags (remember that?) when I was a kid, but now I enjoy a bit more of a challenge. Again... it's your call how you want to play it. unless it's multiplayer... then you die. >)
It's the fact that you're just giving yourself something in a potentially unlimited supply without paying for them. If you really have the money for them, just go out and buy a shit ton. Or you know, level up a melee skill =3 And trust me, it won't be long before you'll be bored and give yourself stat bonuses and better armor, and money to buy stuff like house items, and BAM game broken!xXxJessicaxXx said:
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Or none of that could happen. Perfectly possible.
Don't stop. Spawn in the arrows, but keep track of how mayn you use. Then when you get to town, buy back all the arrows you "spawned" and immediately destroy them/dump them in the river.xXxJessicaxXx said:
and BLAM! karmic balance!?
That's how Karma works right?.... right?
If you are hacking and/or modifying the game (and your inventory) it is cheating. Is it a bad thing? In multiplayer it is. In single player, it's up to you. I see it as a different way to play and if you have more fun that way there is nothing wrong with it. That applies to any game from Oblivion to Minecraft and Pokemon and any other game you can think of.
It's cheating but it's not really killing the game for you, one way or another you're going to get arrows.xXxJessicaxXx said:
It's not like you just upgraded all your shit because you feel like it.
I don't think I've done similar, although being a mage on Morrowind certainly felt like cheating at times.
The towns I harassed from the air whilst my elemental s wreaked havoc on their guards. Thank you House Telvanni.
I do this a lot, but I do try to "pay" for the arrows (or whatever it is) by destroying something of equal value, usually gold.xXxJessicaxXx said:
playing rpgs is fun. Traipsing back and forth between two places several times in order to play the next bit is a pain in the ass. Especially in games with no fast travel. Mass Effect (I think) pissed me off with quests that had me going back and forth between places I had already explored. Spent sooooo much time just walking, loading, walking, loading, walking only to get to the objective, 2 minute convo then return journey....argh!
your game, do whatever
i used to use it to give me limitless money right off the bat, but now i got a ps3 copy(no dev_console)
i used to use it to give me limitless money right off the bat, but now i got a ps3 copy(no dev_console)
You're trying to have fun with your game?! You know who else liked to have fun? HITLER. ARE YOU HITLER?!
But seriously, it's cheating, sure. But... Who cares? It's single-player, you can do whatever the hell you want to have fun. If you have fun not having to worry about ammo, then go for it.
But seriously, it's cheating, sure. But... Who cares? It's single-player, you can do whatever the hell you want to have fun. If you have fun not having to worry about ammo, then go for it.
Technically it is cheating because you used the console, but I suppose it's not that much worse than the reasons I never run out of arrows on the 360 version of Oblivion.
I equip 4 or 5 pieces of amour and accessories that are enchanted with the Chameleon spell so that I have permanent 100% Chameleon, that way I never run out of arrows because I can pick them up without being detected, plus I always get the stealth damage bonus so I only use a few arrows to take down a foe (unless I'm trying to build up my archery skill, in which case I use the weakest arrows and my opponents look like porcupines before they die).
I also reverse pick-pocketed the Adoring Fan so he acts like a mule, carrying all the ammo & equipment I need to every dungeon I visit.
At the end of the day, there's nothing wrong with "cheating" in a game so buggy and broken as Oblivion, through the course of a normal play through you can inadvertently "cheat" just by outwitting the dumb A.I., you actually have to go out of your way if you want to play the game "fairly" and give your enemies a fighting chance.
I equip 4 or 5 pieces of amour and accessories that are enchanted with the Chameleon spell so that I have permanent 100% Chameleon, that way I never run out of arrows because I can pick them up without being detected, plus I always get the stealth damage bonus so I only use a few arrows to take down a foe (unless I'm trying to build up my archery skill, in which case I use the weakest arrows and my opponents look like porcupines before they die).
I also reverse pick-pocketed the Adoring Fan so he acts like a mule, carrying all the ammo & equipment I need to every dungeon I visit.
At the end of the day, there's nothing wrong with "cheating" in a game so buggy and broken as Oblivion, through the course of a normal play through you can inadvertently "cheat" just by outwitting the dumb A.I., you actually have to go out of your way if you want to play the game "fairly" and give your enemies a fighting chance.
