Is this ''cheating?''

[Ralen-Sharr]

I didn't have that much problem with arrows. Although I also played stealthy so most of my shots were 1 hit kills.

oh yeah, put the magic: drain life 100 pts for 1 second on your bow. It's not cheating, and it's HELLA effective. Anything with less than 100 hp dies without a chance, and if you find something higher, stealth and pop it in the head and it'll likely be dead anyway.

It does look strange though if the target survives barely. HP drop to almost nothing then bounce right back.

 

[GraveeKing]

If I keep 200 on me I just look arrows I shot into enemy's after they die, I'd say just try and be more efficient instead. And heck as long as they're your level arrows I don't see why not.

 

[therandombear]

Well...I had to actually cheat in FO:NV today...I was in Vault 11 punching mantis' when I suddenly fell through the floor and ended up under the overseers desk, in the hidden tunnel.

I walked down and finished the whole Martyr event...I found the PC saying "Override Lockdown" I assumed this opened the overseer desk...when I got back, nope...so I had to open console and use the "movetoqt" command to get out of there >.<

OT: You are cheating...but you're not cheating to ruin the game for anyone, would be worse if it was in a MP game.

 

[GamerPhate]

Technically yes it is cheating. Does it matter? It is a single player game, and it is only you who's experience is altered. You could dream about the alternate timeline where you didn't cheat and instead left caches of arrows all over the land in attempts to be able to restock from time to time. And you can imagine what the epic journeys to all these caches will be like each time you need more. Dream about the hours you would spend backtracking to the places so that you could legitimately say that you beat the game without cheating. But is it worth all the time sink? Only you can say.

An alternate way to do things, and similar to what you do in the Fallout series, is that you sometimes need to have a backup skill to fall back on in case you run out of a certain type of ammo, or perhaps need that extra bit of firepower from a different weapon. I think someone mentioned bringing a sword along to finish the crawl with if run dry of ammo. That is usually the best plan in a game where ranged ammo is somewhat limited. Another solution would be that perhaps 200 arrows isn't enough? Maybe you need to take 300 just to be sure you have enough to make it to the end. These are just suggestions, again, it is your game experience, and if being able to say you beat it without cheating is important to you, there are alternative methods to getting around low ammo if that is your primary issue. But again, if that doesn't REALLY matter to you, then do what you want, it is your game

It is only online games where cheating gets QUITE a bit more sketchy XD

 

[Radoh]

You are breaking restrictions that the game has set upon you, so yes you are cheating. However its not game breakingly so, so if you want to keep on doing so, then continue.

 

[fenrizz]

I don't consider it cheating.

Having to run out of the dungeon and back to town to restock on ammo is a very annoying inconvenience.

Besides, it's not like you're breaking the game balance or anything.

 

[GamerPhate]

Well...I had to actually cheat in FO:NV today...I was in Vault 11 punching mantis' when I suddenly fell through the floor and ended up under the overseers desk, in the hidden tunnel.

I walked down and finished the whole Martyr event...I found the PC saying "Override Lockdown" I assumed this opened the overseer desk...when I got back, nope...so I had to open console and use the "movetoqt" command to get out of there >.<

OT: You are cheating...but you're not cheating to ruin the game for anyone, would be worse if it was in a MP game.

What you did there was NOT cheating. If the game BREAKS on you (bad level design and you fall through the world for example) using the console to FIX the game breaking element isn't cheating. Granted I suppose if you had a fairly recent save you could backtrack hopefull less than 30 mins of gameplay worth to do it again and see if the glitch happens again, or try to avoid it of course.

Usually when I am in a situation like that I see how much time I would lose and if I can spare redoing it again. Usually I reload and try again to avoid having to use the console. But if a save is corrupt or the game is literally broken regardless of the saves I fall back on, then there is nothing you can do but over-ride the game and FIX what ever problem persists.

This type of console use is NEVER cheating if the problem can not be resolved. But again, you can always reload and try again, but if it happens again, what can you do?

 

[spartandude]

Its single player, doesnt affect anyone else so it dont matter

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

SNIP

Ye that is cheating, and I know this has already been said... but how do you use so many arrows????

I don't know! *falls to knees sobbing*

One minute I have 200 the next that awful crack noise as you run out :<. Oh and I aslso pick the stray ones back up too it just seems to get less and less.

 

[therandombear]

Well...I had to actually cheat in FO:NV today...I was in Vault 11 punching mantis' when I suddenly fell through the floor and ended up under the overseers desk, in the hidden tunnel.

I walked down and finished the whole Martyr event...I found the PC saying "Override Lockdown" I assumed this opened the overseer desk...when I got back, nope...so I had to open console and use the "movetoqt" command to get out of there >.<

OT: You are cheating...but you're not cheating to ruin the game for anyone, would be worse if it was in a MP game.

What you did there was NOT cheating. If the game BREAKS on you (bad level design and you fall through the world for example) using the console to FIX the game breaking element isn't cheating. Granted I suppose if you had a fairly recent save you could backtrack hopefull less than 30 mins of gameplay worth to do it again and see if the glitch happens again, or try to avoid it of course.

Usually when I am in a situation like that I see how much time I would lose and if I can spare redoing it again. Usually I reload and try again to avoid having to use the console. But if a save is corrupt or the game is literally broken regardless of the saves I fall back on, then there is nothing you can do but over-ride the game and FIX what ever problem persists.

This type of console use is NEVER cheating if the problem can not be resolved. But again, you can always reload and try again, but if it happens again, what can you do?

True, I could just have loaded from last point....but I had been wading through the same wing in the vault for 1 hour, picking up anything I could use, ex. Cigarette packs for sierra madre chips and things to jury rigg xD

I was thinking of it, but when it's been 1-2 hours since last save...fuck no >.<

 

[GamerPhate]

I don't consider it cheating.

Having to run out of the dungeon and back to town to restock on ammo is a very annoying inconvenience.

Besides, it's not like you're breaking the game balance or anything.

If you use the console to get free stuff, it is cheating. You get free stuff for nothing. There is a limit to number of items in the world to create a sense drama or survival effect. If you can just create anything you need, when you want, there is no accomplishment. When you come across arrows natually in the game, they will become much more of a prize loot than if you can just clone some more at will.

 

[bassdrum]

Technically, I suppose it would be cheating... but it's not like it affects anyone but you, and it makes the game more fun for you, so I don't think it really matters. If it's bothering you, just put a good lightweight dagger in your inventory for when you run out of arrows (although I'd be inclined to say that you should just go right on using the console; once I finish the playthrough I'm on now I'm probably going to go back through making free use of console commands).

 

[Jamboxdotcom]

It's a single-player game. What the hell does it matter what others think? If it makes the game more fun for you, then by all means, keep consoling in more arrows. Technically it's cheating, but it's like cheating at solitaire: if you enjoy it, who cares?

 

[GamerPhate]

Well...I had to actually cheat in FO:NV today...I was in Vault 11 punching mantis' when I suddenly fell through the floor and ended up under the overseers desk, in the hidden tunnel.

I walked down and finished the whole Martyr event...I found the PC saying "Override Lockdown" I assumed this opened the overseer desk...when I got back, nope...so I had to open console and use the "movetoqt" command to get out of there >.<

OT: You are cheating...but you're not cheating to ruin the game for anyone, would be worse if it was in a MP game.

What you did there was NOT cheating. If the game BREAKS on you (bad level design and you fall through the world for example) using the console to FIX the game breaking element isn't cheating. Granted I suppose if you had a fairly recent save you could backtrack hopefull less than 30 mins of gameplay worth to do it again and see if the glitch happens again, or try to avoid it of course.

Usually when I am in a situation like that I see how much time I would lose and if I can spare redoing it again. Usually I reload and try again to avoid having to use the console. But if a save is corrupt or the game is literally broken regardless of the saves I fall back on, then there is nothing you can do but over-ride the game and FIX what ever problem persists.

This type of console use is NEVER cheating if the problem can not be resolved. But again, you can always reload and try again, but if it happens again, what can you do?

True, I could just have loaded from last point....but I had been wading through the same wing in the vault for 1 hour, picking up anything I could use, ex. Cigarette packs for sierra madre chips and things to jury rigg xD

I was thinking of it, but when it's been 1-2 hours since last save...fuck no >.<

1 to 2 hours is too long to waste imo It was an obvious glitch, you weren't SUPPOSE to be able to get down there like that, so really it isn't cheating. And I know what you mean about going on those huge loot binges and then getting to some point where something like that happens and you are like AHHHH I got all this stuff and don't REALLY want to do it again! It is like re-living the SAME thing again... and if that was the same outcome you would have had anyways, really why invest the time-sink redoing the same thing you JUST did?! So yeah, I wouldn't sweat that one at all.

 

[Tdc2182]

Oh please, I used to take advantage of all the money glitches and repeating glitches all the time.

If you have fun and absolutely no one else is affected by it, have a blast. It's your game.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Is that really bad cheating

Not at all

:S Do you think I should stop it.

No, not at all

Have you ever done anything similar in a game? What do you think?

Yes

In Neverwinter Nights 2 I used the debug console to put all of my stats to 40, gave myself 10 million gold coins, +5 Armor, a +5 enchanted weapon, and tons of magical scrolls.

What you do dwarfs in comparision.

Is that worse than using the test stats in the debug room in Morrowind? I had over 10k health + other shit.

OT: No I don't think it is in Oblivion. They make you take way too many arrows with you considering the damage they do. If you don't want to cheat turn the difficulty down. To be honest stealth kills should be 1 hitters anyway.

 

[GamerPhate]

Technically, I suppose it would be cheating... but it's not like it affects anyone but you, and it makes the game more fun for you, so I don't think it really matters. If it's bothering you, just put a good lightweight dagger in your inventory for when you run out of arrows (although I'd be inclined to say that you should just go right on using the console; once I finish the playthrough I'm on now I'm probably going to go back through making free use of console commands).

That is another thing, after your first play through where you can say you didn't touch the console, I don't think it really matters too much what you do on your second,third, or hundredth playthrough. If you beat the game without console once, you did it! Why climb Mt. Everst the second time without a few oxygen bottles for the ride if things get tough? Although I rarely ever use the console since it offers so much power, it doesn't mean you can't play around with the settings sometimes, but I usually don't save my game after playing around with it, but that is up to you, it is your single player experience.