Is this not a great idea?(TF2 updates for 360)

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Alexnader

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TikiShades said:
They said that TF2 can on low end computers.
My laptop was low end
.: I should have looked into trying to see if it worked.

WoW ran at 14 FPS for me at the very best of times.
FPS requires good FPS and a not shit connection.
.: I'll play it on the console, kthx

The same amount of cases where TF2 ran fine on a low-end computer, I also saw not run on a high-end computer.

Just because water is free from a faucet, when the only faucet is in the middle of nowhere, I feel like living in the town and drinking bottled water, along with other choices of drink, is a better idea. Doesn't mean that my bottled water shouldn't be able to taste as good as the faucet.
TF2 can hypothetically run on low spec computers, however the recent updates have left it badly "optimised". Once they release some updates that aren't gameplay related you can expect to see it go back to running on most low spec computers. However i doubt anything that could be classified as "high end" would have any trouble running tf2 unless it had a graphics card stolen from an alien race who don't support drivers for windows and mac :p

Also if you have a shit connection surely that'll make it just as bad for online console games?

For me the PC is my primary gaming console and while it is crash-hot, it doesn't take much money to get something capable of running tf2, I find it hard to believe that someone will fork out $500 or so (Aus price) for a 360 without having a decent machine... I mean high power computers are good for other things... you can run multiple applications without fear of crashing, you can have photoshop load faster than 10 minutes and they're just generally nicer to use!

Oh btw, you made another weird choice drinking bottled water :p It's bad for the environment, it's bad for your wallet and finally it's bad for your health. A PC is more like having a faucet in your home that gives you unlimited drinking time for a very low price. i.e steam online sales vs commercial retailed games for consoles.
 

maddawg IAJI

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blue_guy said:
maddawg IAJI said:
How about the fact that not everyone has a steam account?

How about the fact that not everyone has a computer capable of running TF2.

How about the fact that not everyone wants to pay 60 bucks for a second copy of the game. (I do not own a Steam account so if there is a way to get it for free without Pirating I am unaware of it.)

Honestly so what if we pay for it. We buy Treyarchs new map packs every 2 and a half months and if we have enough money to buy that we shouldn't be worried about paying 10-15 bucks for a huge set of updates and new maps.
Steam is free

Tf2 can run in direct x 8 mode

Tf2 is *checks* £13.99 which is about $23

Just because Treyarch rips you off with shite maps for a shite game that you still buy for some reason, doesn't mean it's okay for every other company to do it.
I don't have steam. So I do not check the price drops for those games nor do I know wether or not Steam is free. But I must ask. When has Valve ever charged us more then the inital price of the game? Then let us download new versions of maps for free! I don't see why or how Valve would be ripping us off. Most 360 fans would welcome it. That way they could experience the full game without having to paying for it again.

Persoanlly I enjoy sitting on my couch playing with a controller in my hand (And before you bring up the fact that you can plug your controller into the computer,let me remind you that most controllers now a days are wireless and it is rather diffcult to find a wired 360 controller where I live.)
 

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Mr.Pandah said:
Godofgame67 said:
I think it seems like a good idea. Why the hell are 95% of these responses talking about getting for the PC? I thought this was about the game not what system is superior. This is turning into a PC glorification thread.
Well you obviously didn't read the rest of the thread...or even see what my post was getting at.

Here is a little Disclaimer for anyone else that decides to read this thread. I am not glorifying the PC in any way. My original post was to point out the fact that paying for any sort of content updates to the Xbox 360 version of TF2 is absolute ludicrous considering the fact that you can get the same game, with FREE updates on the PC. Its insanity.
Well if you already own the game on a console, how do you get that to your computer completely free? You are going to have to pay £15 to buy it again, that money could just be used to buy the update in the first place. Sure if we could travel back in time and didn't buy it on the 360 and got it on the PC instead, then it would be free, but unfortunately I can't time travel.
 

Gingerman

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Xbox owners are already paying for something that should be free so I dont really see the hassle here. I would encourage console owners to try playing on a PC because games do tend to have a longer life on the PC due to mods etc, that and theres some PC only games which they are missing like Counter strike, battlefield and stalker.

Although its good to see that Valve is still supporting the xbox market in this way as I would of washed my hands a long time ago due to MS charging them for playing online. (Not a very good business trait but hey)
 

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I think any opportunity to update the 360 is a good one, but I still don't understand why the 360 game isn't compatible with the PC game. The 360 is essentially a windows machine. Just have the option to enable downloading content from Steam servers and connecting to Windows/Linux hosted games and operating along side PC players.

OH WAIT I KNOW - MICROSOFT WON'T LET THEM OPERATE OUTSIDE OF THE XBOX LIVE ENVIRONMENT - FUUUUUUCK

Seriously, who else would LOVE to hook up your xbox and computer to the same network and play THE SAME GAME? What on earth is so fucking rediculous about that? There is no technological hurdle to accomplishing this, only limitations imposed by designers to pressure consumers into buying more of one product. FUCK THEM - OPEN UP THE GAMES SO WE CAN PLAY PC VS XBOX

If I could do this, you'd better believe I'd have a 360 tomorrow. I'd pawn almost everything I have and I'd go get one ASAP.
There are actually technological hurdles to multi-platform online gaming, especially in the case of updates and DLC. The primary and most obvious ones being different coding, and in the case of PC vs the 360, different versions of the games being available.
I couldn't say about all games, but the main problem with TF2 has always been the hardware limitations of the 360. The Orange Box release version of TF2 already strained the available memory, and in order to add additional content they're having to completely rework entire sections of code in order to fit things in. It's a huge undertaking, and is almost akin to having to completely rewrite the game from the ground up. It's not as simple as in some games, where you just download maybe a new map to the HD and you're good to go. Many of the TF2 updates have made fundamental changes to the gameplay.
 

Mr.Pandah

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conqueror Kenny said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Godofgame67 said:
I think it seems like a good idea. Why the hell are 95% of these responses talking about getting for the PC? I thought this was about the game not what system is superior. This is turning into a PC glorification thread.
Well you obviously didn't read the rest of the thread...or even see what my post was getting at.

Here is a little Disclaimer for anyone else that decides to read this thread. I am not glorifying the PC in any way. My original post was to point out the fact that paying for any sort of content updates to the Xbox 360 version of TF2 is absolute ludicrous considering the fact that you can get the same game, with FREE updates on the PC. Its insanity.
Well if you already own the game on a console, how do you get that to your computer completely free? You are going to have to pay £15 to buy it again, that money could just be used to buy the update in the first place. Sure if we could travel back in time and didn't buy it on the 360 and got it on the PC instead, then it would be free, but unfortunately I can't time travel.
And unfortunately you still miss the point of my post. If you have to pay for something that is already free elsewhere, there is a big problem. Holy shit, how hard is it to understand that?
 

Conqueror Kenny

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Mr.Pandah said:
conqueror Kenny said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Godofgame67 said:
I think it seems like a good idea. Why the hell are 95% of these responses talking about getting for the PC? I thought this was about the game not what system is superior. This is turning into a PC glorification thread.
Well you obviously didn't read the rest of the thread...or even see what my post was getting at.

Here is a little Disclaimer for anyone else that decides to read this thread. I am not glorifying the PC in any way. My original post was to point out the fact that paying for any sort of content updates to the Xbox 360 version of TF2 is absolute ludicrous considering the fact that you can get the same game, with FREE updates on the PC. Its insanity.
Well if you already own the game on a console, how do you get that to your computer completely free? You are going to have to pay £15 to buy it again, that money could just be used to buy the update in the first place. Sure if we could travel back in time and didn't buy it on the 360 and got it on the PC instead, then it would be free, but unfortunately I can't time travel.
And unfortunately you still miss the point of my post. If you have to pay for something that is already free elsewhere, there is a big problem. Holy shit, how hard is it to understand that?
You make that surprisingly hard to understand when you say things such as
Mr.Pandah said:
I got a better idea. Just buy it on the Computer and be done with it already.
You see how you can be easily misunderstood.
 

Mr.Pandah

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conqueror Kenny said:
Mr.Pandah said:
conqueror Kenny said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Godofgame67 said:
I think it seems like a good idea. Why the hell are 95% of these responses talking about getting for the PC? I thought this was about the game not what system is superior. This is turning into a PC glorification thread.
Well you obviously didn't read the rest of the thread...or even see what my post was getting at.

Here is a little Disclaimer for anyone else that decides to read this thread. I am not glorifying the PC in any way. My original post was to point out the fact that paying for any sort of content updates to the Xbox 360 version of TF2 is absolute ludicrous considering the fact that you can get the same game, with FREE updates on the PC. Its insanity.
Well if you already own the game on a console, how do you get that to your computer completely free? You are going to have to pay £15 to buy it again, that money could just be used to buy the update in the first place. Sure if we could travel back in time and didn't buy it on the 360 and got it on the PC instead, then it would be free, but unfortunately I can't time travel.
And unfortunately you still miss the point of my post. If you have to pay for something that is already free elsewhere, there is a big problem. Holy shit, how hard is it to understand that?
You make that surprisingly hard to understand when you say things such as
Mr.Pandah said:
I got a better idea. Just buy it on the Computer and be done with it already.
You see how you can be easily misunderstood.
Of course things can be misconstrued when one feels the need to post as soon as they read one thing without reading anything else. So I read this book called Lord of the Rings, but I only read the first few chapters. Strider is actually a mass murderer hell bent on aquiring the Ring...obviously.
 

GamingAwesome1

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The fundamental problem with the "Go get PC version" argument is that some of us lack a powerful enough rig.

My computer is a pile of absolute shit when it comes to PC games so I look to the consoles for my TF2 fix.

Before you say get another computer, I'm not made of money, I'm a schoolboy with no job and rely solely on my parents money income. They're not buying me a new computer, it's out of the question.
 

GuerrillaClock

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I'd love the updates without the achievements. It seems like every other game I play on the PC version is full of achievement farmers.