Is this Plagiarism?

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ivraie

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I stumbled onto this thread by accident, and boy, am I completely flabbergasted by the misunderstanding of the term plagiarism. Plagiarism: ?To take and use as one?s own the thoughts, writings or inventions of another? (Oxford English Dictionary). This definition is also used by every single .edu, university or art website. Just because you are not gaining monetary profit does not mean it isn't plagiarism! If you took parts of someone's work, idea or creation and modified it, traced it or copied sections to create your work WITHOUT acknowledging the original creator, IT IS PLAGIARISM. Leading others to think that the work is entirely of your own idea IS PLAGIARISM.

This was my reply on the mabinogi forum:
" The biggest beef is that the original artist took the time to think up the pose, the anatomical proportions, the shading, the fabric folds, etc etc. Not giving credit when you use original art as reference gives viewers the false impression that the copy artist is came up with all of that on their own.

It literally takes me hours to fine tune anatomical proportions, find subtle lighting differences, figure out how to express depths of fabric folds, or how metals reflect light, etc. It takes a whole lot of work, brain power and dedication to produce a completely original work. When someone uses another person's work and trace it/reference it/copy it, they basically skip all of those steps because someone else has figured it all out.

When someone takes the artwork of a relatively unknown artist and traces it/reference it/copies it, it's very unlikely that the average viewer will think "I've seen that somewhere else", rather the viewer will think "Holy shit, this stuff is awesome! You are highly skilled!". Of course, the second response is faulty, as the resultant picture shows the skill of both the referenced artwork and the copy artist.

If you traced/copied/referenced, you've had 50% of the work done for you. That is fact. It can be obvious that you've worked hard on the other 50% to produce the completed work, but this still means that the work is not completely yours.

I hope all aspiring artists on this forum learn to provide reference links, and give credit where credit is due. If someone's art inspired yours, as a form of respect to that artist, mention their names or provide a link!! This is such a simple thing to do, and will completely stop drama and accusations from happening."

I've been a digital artist for almost 10 years. It drives me crazy to see that most people don't even recognize plagiarism when such solid evidence is provided.

http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/
http://datenshikurai.deviantart.com/journal/21493555/

Give those two links a good read. Plagiarism is serious. It hurts the creators of original art. Relatively unknown artists (such as myself) regularly get our artwork used as "reference" completely without our knowledge and without giving us credit, even though we've spent hours working on the pictures. If you want to sympathize, sympathize with the creators of the original art work that was copied, not with the copy artists.

Sorry for such a long first post. As an artist, I feel very passionately about this.
 

Timbydude

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Dexiro said:
I wouldn't call that plagiarism.

These people haven't just done a blatant copy, they've at least added a little bit of effort to make it their own.

Although they should at least give credit to the original instead of passing it off as 100% theirs, or they can't blame people for calling them out on it.

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Actually on second thoughts i would call it plagiarism unless they give credit to the original artist. At least SOME of their work if being passed off as someone elses which isn't quite right.
This. There's a certain point past which imitation becomes thievery.
 

Chrissyluky

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This is essentially the same as tracing. It is what I would consider stolen. if it isn't an original idea you thought up and drew/painted/whatever then its not yours. I don't consider tracing an "effective way to boost your drawing skills" either. Anyone can play connect the dots.