It's Only Biological.

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Eggsnham

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Due to the recent influx of sex threads, including one of mine that got locked (DAMN YOU, MODERATORS! DAMN YOU!), I've had to state my cold and biological thoughts on sex and the like, which made me wonder:

A. how the fuck did I manage to come up with any sort of sensible biological explanation as justification for being horny, when I can barely pass high school biology, and

B. Being human, how do you manage to balance your human emotions, your conscious and your cold, biological instincts? Or do you just not balance them at all?

Mods: I don't hate you, and I'm sure that there was a good reason for locking my sex thread.

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About my viewpoint on this all, I think that things such as sex and human relationships should be kept at a healthy mixture of emotion and instinct i.e. Sex is just your body's way of trying to make sure that your genes get passed on over time, and as such, is purely biological, but because of the way our society holds sex in such a personal and private, yet glorified manner; sex tends to be better psychologically when emotion is involved, and (hopefully) physically satisfying as well...

I hope that made sense.

Please also note that I'm not just getting at sex here, for instance, one could argue that racism is instinct (which I would argue against, but one could still argue that) and, as such, is biologically natural (again, I do not think this at all).
 

reg42

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Personally I only want to have sex with someone I'm completely sure I love, which hasn't come close to happening yet, so I'll just wait. I have no problem waiting for the right person.
I don't much care about what others do with their sex life, I don't really like to judge.
 

UnusualStranger

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This is likely going to be the oddest discussion I will have ever participated in.

Well, sex is really not held in as high regard in other cultures as is held in the USA. If I remember correctly, there is actually a legitimate business in Japan which treats sex as a business transaction, rather than an intimate moment. This is because it is believed that as long as there is no emotional attachment, it is a legitimate way to respond to a body's biological urges. In short, there is a separation from sex and emotional well being.

Though I am not exactly sure what you mean by balancing human emotions and instinct. What, does that mean you have met people who just randomly start having sex, emotions be damned?
 
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Me, personally I learned to control myself.
I control my emotions and whatnot by basically, well not letting them get to my head.

Not exactly sure how, and I don't think thats a decent excuse, but I've learned to control myself.
 

Goremocker

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Erm...*Throws well written argument out the window*...I didn't over think it...I just...What was I getting at?

Oh,yes...I don't have much of an opinion on this and speaking strictly as an outsider looking in.All I can say is that sex is an over rated and over powered word and act that I've grown tired of hearing about.The same goes for love.
 

Free Thinker

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My name is Free Thinker...and I'm a sex addict. JK!
OT: It's in the emotion now. I think we've evolved enough to where we aren't procreating for the sake of genes being passed on.
 

Eggsnham

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UnusualStranger said:
Though I am not exactly sure what you mean by balancing human emotions and instinct. What, does that mean you have met people who just randomly start having sex, emotions be damned?
No... I dunno how to explain it really. I guess I'm just asking the my fellow Escapists how they about their lives balancing instinct and the human conscience.

I've been in a few relationships before where we had been going out for a while and she decided that we should cut it off because we'd had sex and it wasn't "meaningful". Which made me wonder about things such as why people associate emotion with sex so quickly... I'm rambling.

Anyways, I guess the point is, how do you as a human, take your emotions and allow them to peacefully coincide with your instincts?
 

Macgyvercas

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I plan to wait until I'm married to have sex *snaps towel to quell laughter*

However, if something happens before then, whatever.
 

MBergman

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Old Trailmix said:
People like to have sex a little too much.

And that scares me.
Well it is kind of nice.

People eating a little bit too much cake scares me!

OT:

I reckon' it's all about whatever floats your boat. At the moment I'm in a relationship with a girl I care for very much and that's awsome. A friend of mine just sleeps around with a truck load of chicks (he's pretty good at picking up girls) and he's enjoying the hell out of that, so as I said: Whatever floats your boat.
 

Julianking93

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Personally, I think the majority of people have yet to evolve past the point of merely wanting to have sex just to pass on genes.

Sure, some people have sex for the emotional part of it, others have sex as a sort of social acceptance thing while others do it just to procreate.

I don't really control my sexual urges. I embrace them. And by that, I mean I masturbate a lot.
 

UnusualStranger

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Eggsnham said:
she decided that we should cut it off because we'd had sex and it wasn't "meaningful".
Uh....Huh?

Well....I never really thought of sex as really..."Meaningful" in the first place. I always saw it as something that too many people put too much on, when I see it as just sex. Protection is damned important in keeping this thought in line, but it can be done pretty easily.

I just like to think of sex as more of a...separate type of thing. People keep telling me some day I'll find "the One" and it'll change my mind on a bunch of stuff, and that sex with them would be special.

Which I just think is a bunch of bull.
 

Billion Backs

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Racism does seem like a viable self-defense mechanism. And perhaps not so much racism as stereotyping in general, dividing everyone into groups. Why?

It's obvious. At some point in history, the idea that "if they're not us, they're our enemies" would be rather logical and it's reasonable to distrust those who might bring harm.

Don't treat "natural" as something inherently good. That's a fallacy, and a rather dumb one at that. Natural means nothing. It's just grown out there, apparently without much human interaction, that's it.

As sex goes, yeah, it's pretty much only biological. I'm completely open to concepts of free love not because I'm a nerd that never gets laid (that gets thrown a lot) but because I do not think there should be some kind of spiritual importance attached to what has become an act of entertainment.

If you want to have sex just for the sake of sex, go for it. If you don't, well, don't.
 

Dyp100

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Everything humans do is biological.

Your idea of sex is good, it seems, but I'm a bit tired to take in everything.

Love is also, only biological, but humans love to glamorise things, it's made life...IDK, worst, if you ask me, since it makes people more ignorant, less willing to question why something is if it's just "magic".

Also, to your question, now I reread the thread...I'm too ugly to start having sex, (mostly) I've had offered once or twice, but it'd not want to kiss, let alone sleep with, someone unless I was in love. -Sigh- Sadly, my lack of love is terrible.

Also, I know one thing...Being horny is horrible, I hope if I DO ever enter a relationship (ha, yeah right) I hope it's with a female who also tends to get horny. (Rare, if you ask me, most girls I know are "prudes", though.)
 

Tharwen

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I have the urges. I'm human. However, somehow, without having had sex or being in any sort of relationship at all so far, I feel that I only really want to have sex with someone I really care about, if only because it'll be less embarrassing if something goes wrong.

Now, I must share the wise words of Dara O'Briain.


The bit that's appropriate to this is hidden somewhere in that video, but you might as well watch the whole thing because he's a hoopy frood.

Macgyvercas said:
I plan to wait until I'm married to have sex *snaps towel to quell laughter*
You won't get laughter here, my friend.

*Offers hand to help Macgyveras up from the proverbial floor*

[sub]Actually, did that have anything to do with this at all?[/sub]
 

Eggsnham

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UnusualStranger said:
Eggsnham said:
she decided that we should cut it off because we'd had sex and it wasn't "meaningful".
Uh....Huh?

Well....I never really thought of sex as really..."Meaningful" in the first place. I always saw it as something that too many people put too much on, when I see it as just sex. Protection is damned important in keeping this thought in line, but it can be done pretty easily.

I just like to think of sex as more of a...separate type of thing. People keep telling me some day I'll find "the One" and it'll change my mind on a bunch of stuff, and that sex with them would be special.

Which I just think is a bunch of bull.
Wait... We agree with each other.

Which is good. Because I was starting to get really confused.
 

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Julianking93 said:
I don't really control my sexual urges. I embrace them. And by that, I mean I masturbate a lot.
Ah, Julian. Succinct as always :p

OT: Pretty much this. Masturbation is nothing to be ashamed of; it helps prevent prostate cancer, increases sexual stamina and thus confidence (and helps you avoid that disasterous 'On Chesil Beach' moment), and it's a great way of relieving stress. Anybody who tells you 'it's dirty!' is just plain prudish; people have done it for millennia, and will continue to do it, and the sooner you understand that the sooner we can get on with our lives. It's natural to feel a little ashamed at first, because basically your body considers it a waste of good, babby-forming sperm, but you get over that pretty quickly.
Plus, it just feels grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat!.

Sex can be emotional (and I think that if you feel a connection to your partner, it feels better on the whole if it goes well) or just biological, for release, like in a one-night-stand etc. Really, either's fine, do whatever you see fit.
 

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Free Thinker said:
I think we've evolved enough to where we aren't procreating for the sake of genes being passed on.
How exactly has that evolution taken place?

Julianking93 said:
I don't really control my sexual urges. I embrace them. And by that, I mean I masturbate a lot.
It's not that hard to tell by looking at your avatar. But yeah, good to embrace it.
 

Macgyvercas

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Tharwen said:
I have the urges. I'm human. However, somehow, without having had sex or being in any sort of relationship at all so far, I feel that I only really want to have sex with someone I really care about, if only because it'll be less embarrassing if something goes wrong.

Now, I must share the wise words of Dara O'Briain.


The bit that's appropriate to this is hidden somewhere in that video, but you might as well watch the whole thing because he's a hoopy frood.

Macgyvercas said:
I plan to wait until I'm married to have sex *snaps towel to quell laughter*
You won't get laughter here, my friend.

*Offers hand to help Macgyveras up from the proverbial floor*

Actually, did that have anything to do with this at all?
Not particularly, but it's standard response for me in a thread about sex. Except for the towel bit. That's for Towel Day.