I've seen a lot of stories lately on the Police in the US. This is by far the worst.
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This is beyond tragic. My heart goes out to the boy's family.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Still-on-patrol-1388322.php
Apparently the officer in question has been disciplined before. There comes a point where I think the police should be handpicked by their communities; Better training, better equipment to deal with low-threat situations. If the kid didn't have a gun or a knife at a glance, whole pattern is to run from you and hide, what is the point of drawing your pistol?
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Still-on-patrol-1388322.php
Apparently the officer in question has been disciplined before. There comes a point where I think the police should be handpicked by their communities; Better training, better equipment to deal with low-threat situations. If the kid didn't have a gun or a knife at a glance, whole pattern is to run from you and hide, what is the point of drawing your pistol?
Sorry, but after seeing the comments both here and on Reddit, I'm going to have to play Devil's Advocate.
"She says the cop had been reprimanded 16 times in the previous 4 years, suspended without pay 5 times, and "recommended for termination for insubordination," but the school kept him on the force "without remedial training."
Key words there. She Says. From what I can tell, this has not been confirmed by any other source.
EDIT
ost above me provided a source.
The guy was spooked, and fired a shot.
He was told to stay put, but didn't. Instead chasing after the perp who assaulted another (where I come from this is illegal).
Yes, he shouldn't have gone after the kid. Yes it's incredibly sad that a 14 year old had to die for something so stupid. No, I don't think he should get off scott free and he should go up for at least Manslaughter.
There are more police in the US than the few bad ones we hear about.
The majority are jumping to conclusions before all the facts are in.
And it's a School District Police Officer, They're more like beefed up mall cops with guns. They aren't actual police officers. they are pretty much the schools own police force.
Key words there. She Says. From what I can tell, this has not been confirmed by any other source.
EDIT
ost above me provided a source.The guy was spooked, and fired a shot.
He was told to stay put, but didn't. Instead chasing after the perp who assaulted another (where I come from this is illegal).
Yes, he shouldn't have gone after the kid. Yes it's incredibly sad that a 14 year old had to die for something so stupid. No, I don't think he should get off scott free and he should go up for at least Manslaughter.
There are more police in the US than the few bad ones we hear about.
The majority are jumping to conclusions before all the facts are in.
And it's a School District Police Officer, They're more like beefed up mall cops with guns. They aren't actual police officers. they are pretty much the schools own police force.
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Officers are only meant to use their guns in cases where they believe themselves or others are faced with a clear and present danger to their lives. I fail to see how a 14 year old kid opening a door on a full-grown adult constitutes a danger to the cop's life, so he's guilty of manslaughter at-least, if not murder, if this story is true.
Catchy Slogan said:
TrilbyWill said:
Glerken said:
Police officers employed by educational institutes are still full fledged police officers with regular police powers.Twilight_guy said:
Schools may also employ plain ole security guards, but police can be employed as well.
What so you can shoot in an innocent man/woman/child in a moment of panic????Death_Korps_Kommissar said:
No of course not! You're a entirely rational human being who would never ever fear for his life and accidentally let your self preservation instinct kick in.........
I think the police officer was definitely in the wrong for pulling out his gun (I mean, what did he expect the child to do, there was no justifiable reason for him to pull out his gun) and he certainly shoudn't have fired a shot when the kid hit him with the door, but I wouldn't call the cop a monster, an imbicile, yes, but not a cold-blooded kid murderer.
He should at least be charged with manslaughter, and there is absolutely no way he should get away from this scot-free, also someone should investigate the circumstances around him keeping his job without any diciplinary action despite all the complaints, what the heck is up with that?
He should at least be charged with manslaughter, and there is absolutely no way he should get away from this scot-free, also someone should investigate the circumstances around him keeping his job without any diciplinary action despite all the complaints, what the heck is up with that?
Well keeping with the "What do you call this" theme
This is what happens when you want to cut benefits and turn law enforcement into essentially a minimum wage job.
Seriously, most the time the only people who want to be a cop are the ones who have a massive chip on their shoulder and take pleasure in making peoples lives miserable. Takes a rare breed of person who is good natured, wanting to maintain order, peace and wanting to endure the hate the job generates only to make less than 25k per year.
So, when you have a job set at that pay scale you have to remember, you get what you pay for goes both ways. If you expect a higher standard of law enforcement you have to raise the standard of the pay scale.
This is what happens when you want to cut benefits and turn law enforcement into essentially a minimum wage job.
Seriously, most the time the only people who want to be a cop are the ones who have a massive chip on their shoulder and take pleasure in making peoples lives miserable. Takes a rare breed of person who is good natured, wanting to maintain order, peace and wanting to endure the hate the job generates only to make less than 25k per year.
So, when you have a job set at that pay scale you have to remember, you get what you pay for goes both ways. If you expect a higher standard of law enforcement you have to raise the standard of the pay scale.
Not for me, that's cause the local police only show up to write traffic tickets and when told by the state troopers to do something.chuckman1 said:
Oh, and when something risks their share in the drug money. Hell, my dad used to smoke pot with the county judge, that should give you an idea of how the "law enforcement" system works down here. NE Texas and surrounding area by the way.
Why did a school police officer have a gun? The only reason for doing that is if they honestly consider the kids to be an actual threat and real danger and thus police need to be threatening. Also, why didn't that guy get back-up? A run away in a shed with god knows what kind of tools stored in it... dumb!
I find it thoroughly amusing you have a picture of Ned Stark about to execute a deserter to the Wall, and here you arguing over a cop chasing a guy who wouldn't stop which ended in him being put down.
People need to just do as the police say. THAT gives them the right to do such things. Attacking an officer with a spoon and attacking an officer with a gun MAKE NO DIFFERENCE. They attacked the officer.
Note - Do not say anything about A Dance with Dragons...just don't. I don't want to know if Ned comes back, is Coldhands, etc. DO NOT SPOIL THAT BOOK FOR ME IF IT TURNS OUT HE'S ALIVE, EVIL, OR OTHERWISE.
People need to just do as the police say. THAT gives them the right to do such things. Attacking an officer with a spoon and attacking an officer with a gun MAKE NO DIFFERENCE. They attacked the officer.
Note - Do not say anything about A Dance with Dragons...just don't. I don't want to know if Ned comes back, is Coldhands, etc. DO NOT SPOIL THAT BOOK FOR ME IF IT TURNS OUT HE'S ALIVE, EVIL, OR OTHERWISE.