James Cameron Commits to Avatar 2 & 3

[RooftopAssassin]

Awesome. I can't wait for some pretty pictures and more Dances With Wolves... in space!

I thought everyone knew by now that pointing out that Avatar has a similar plot to Dances With Wolves doesn't make you funny or clever, it just makes you look like a giant bandwagoner douche.

OT: I personally liked Avatar, but are squeals necessary?

Then I must be the funniest, cleverest, giantest, bandwagonerest, douchiest, douche who uses the most horribleist grammar!

High five!

Fixed it! And yes, high five!

 

[TheTejs]

for fucks sake
These movies arent going to be good, it's just either gonna be some crazy make no sence plot twist out of the first
or something set long time after the other movie, having nothing to do with the first...

sequals are NEVER as good as the first, and it ruins the whole experience of the first...

(Except LOTR... As they were books to begin with)

 

[RJFTW]

Awesome. I can't wait for some pretty pictures and more Dances With Wolves... in space!

I thought everyone knew by now that pointing out that Avatar has a similar plot to Dances With Wolves doesn't make you funny or clever, it just makes you look like a giant bandwagoner douche.

OT: I personally liked Avatar, but are squeals necessary?

Then I must be the funniest, cleverest, giantest, bandwagonerest, douchiest, douche who uses the most horribleist grammar!

High five!

Fixed it! And yes, high five!

I'm on that bandwagon too! Let me guess, you were one of those idiots who cried during the movie, and when you were pried away from your little fake 3D world? Did you need help coping when they told you it wasn't real?

 

[SmokingMirrors]

No, just no.

But wait- hold on.. as I recall the humans are out of the picture at the end of the first, so who's going to be the embodiment of corporate villainy in these supposed sequels?

 

[FlameUnquenchable]

Also, for a site full of nerds, I'm always surprised people don't say the plot is just Dune in the jungle.

To chime in here, Avatar has so little complexity that I completely forgot that it has one or two plot points that echo minor plot devices in Dune.

Unobantium = Spice
Guy going native

Common themes from multiple books/movies and genres. But Dune is ultimately more complex in every aspect than Avatar, so it doesn't really compare that well.

 

[zfactor]

Avatar had flaws, but the story itself wasn't one of them ("Unobtanium" was, though). I enjoyed the movie, just not enough for it to be nominated for Best Picture. Maybe the sequels will be good, but that really doesn't happen often. I'm not going to hold my breath.

Also, for a site full of nerds, I'm always surprised people don't say the plot is just Dune in the jungle.

Well, now that you mention it...

EDIT:
Dune has an entire backstory that was never directly explained in the movie. It just sort of dropped you in and expected you to make sense of everything. Avatar explained everything (either in the opening or as the movie progressed).

 

[FlameUnquenchable]

Why all the hate for the original? Yes, you could predict several plot developments, but the same could be said of the vast majority of films in existence. Just seems to me that its now 'cool' to hate Avatar.

Despite what other people think, i'm still going to see Avatar 2 and 3, and like most people enjoy them.

Mainly because Cameron overhyped his own movie, it isn't the Epic he thinks it is, it was just a big fancy piece of eye candy with an overdone storyline. If he can do something different with the next two, doubtful, I would like them, if not I'll say the same about them that I did about the first.

 

[Danpascooch]

Yay... There will apparently be two more movies I can hate with a fiery passion.

Plus, I hope we get to see Giovanni Rabisi reprise his role as the squirmy businessman Parker Selfridge. I love that guy.

It's Ribisi, Greg.

Also, "emotional horsepower"? Seriously, James?!

Lol, I laughed my ass off at "emotional horsepower"

 

[Nouw]

Giovanni from Saving Private Ryan! Hell yeah.

Well this is news we never saw coming! I'd rather have him make Aliens:Colonial Marines!

 

[RooftopAssassin]

Awesome. I can't wait for some pretty pictures and more Dances With Wolves... in space!

I thought everyone knew by now that pointing out that Avatar has a similar plot to Dances With Wolves doesn't make you funny or clever, it just makes you look like a giant bandwagoner douche.

OT: I personally liked Avatar, but are squeals necessary?

Then I must be the funniest, cleverest, giantest, bandwagonerest, douchiest, douche who uses the most horribleist grammar!

High five!

Fixed it! And yes, high five!

I'm on that bandwagon too! Let me guess, you were one of those idiots who cried during the movie, and when you were pried away from your little fake 3D world? Did you need help coping when they told you it wasn't real?

Yeah, I'll stand by my statement and say that ignorant people shouldn't go around making assumptions.

And really? Insults? I wasn't trying to insult anyone more than I was trying to bring the fact that the movies been out for quite awhile, but people are still trying to use that old line. It's like making a Portal reference.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Eh. My favorite thing about the films were the environments, and a few choice lines, neither of which really seemed to matter. Impossibly floating mountains were neat, and epic forest worlds with hyper-deadly creatures are fair, as are giant trees used as an free-to-dwell apartment complex. The description of their bodies was pretty cool (though, as a materials engineer, I want to put one through all kinds of mechanical testing, and make a nice chart of how Na'vi bones and human bones both react under a tensile test...).

But the hair sex thing I could care less about. Sure, it's a nice way to commune with mother nature, but there's really only so many times you can talk to her before she tells you to stop calling for a bit.

 

[edthehyena]

Also, for a site full of nerds, I'm always surprised people don't say the plot is just Dune in the jungle.

Warning to those who do not know Dune's plot, there may be very minor spoilers bellow

Well they're really not that similar. Avatar is more of a Pocahontas in space then anything. Admittedly the basic premise of the two are little similar, ie Paul joining the Fremen and going on to fight the Harkonnen and Jake Sully defecting to the Navi to fight the RDA, and Paul being the Mahdi overlaps with Jake being the chose one thing that he is, but even those similarities are loose, and go no further. For example, Paul was never an enemy of the Fremen, while Jake started out as an enemy of the Navi. This is actually a fairly major point as it changes the story from one based around the lead character's morality (Avatar) to one that is based around multiple issues, revenge and politics being the first that spring to mind (Dune). There is much more to this subject then that, but I honestly don't feel like doing a whole write on the differences between the plots of the two stories, and anyway, I'm sure you get the idea.

That was kinda my point. It really has as much in common with Dune as all the other things people say it's ripping off (which isn't really all that much). Also, Dune is older than everything else people point at.

Believe it or not, Unobtanium is an actual thing. It's a word created to describe building material needed to construct objects that go against the laws of physics. For example, one might need Unobtanium to build a frictionless pulley. It doesn't really exist, but Cameron used the term, probably because he felt like it. It does sort of imply why the material is worth so much in the movie.

Actually, it's an imaginary thing. A placeholder for a thing that hasn't been discovered. Once a material were found that could make a frictionless pulley or something else, it would be named. The mineral they were going after was already discovered, and should have more than a dumb-sounding placeholder name.

 

[Axzarious]

Im keeping my fingers crossed for "The Imperium stumbles across the homeworld of the Navi" plot.

I do remember hearing that since the 'planet' the movie took place on was a moon, and the planet has 3 moons, that they would have a story focusing on each moon or something like that.

 

[cobrausn]

Im keeping my fingers crossed for "The Imperium stumbles across the homeworld of the Navi" plot.

I do remember hearing that since the 'planet' the movie took place on was a moon, and the planet has 3 moons, that they would have a story focusing on each moon or something like that.

After the Imperium got there, provided you're talking about the Imperium I think you are, there would probably be a few less moons.

Suffer not the alien to live...

 

[Axzarious]

Im keeping my fingers crossed for "The Imperium stumbles across the homeworld of the Navi" plot.

I do remember hearing that since the 'planet' the movie took place on was a moon, and the planet has 3 moons, that they would have a story focusing on each moon or something like that.

After the Imperium got there, provided you're talking about the Imperium I think you are, there would probably be a few less moons.

Suffer not the alien to live...

Yup, that Imperium. I was thinking they would just send the Catachan jungle fighters (Unfair to every living thing on the planet due to much more hospitible the Navi homeworld is compared to catachan) or Cadians (Much more balanced).

I dont think they would explode the planet, they would probably strip mine the place of the unobtanium and then put it to use as a training ground or something. If they couldnt take the planet, well, they could always firebomb it then take the minerals, or just, well, as you stated, explode it.

 

[cobrausn]

Im keeping my fingers crossed for "The Imperium stumbles across the homeworld of the Navi" plot.

I do remember hearing that since the 'planet' the movie took place on was a moon, and the planet has 3 moons, that they would have a story focusing on each moon or something like that.

After the Imperium got there, provided you're talking about the Imperium I think you are, there would probably be a few less moons.

Suffer not the alien to live...

Yup, that Imperium. I was thinking they would just send the Catachan jungle fighters (Unfair to every living thing on the planet due to much more hospitible the Navi homeworld is compared to catachan) or Cadians (Much more balanced).

I dont think they would explode the planet, they would probably strip mine the place of the unobtanium and then put it to use as a training ground or something. If they couldnt take the planet, well, they could always firebomb it then take the minerals, or just, well, as you stated, explode it.

The Imperium thinks in the long term for some things. They would probably just explode the planet and mine the asteriod belt for 'Unobtanium', or (because of it's physics defying properties) declare it chaos tainted, blow it up, and declare that region of space restricted.

 

[Adzma]

I suppose this means Jim Cameron will finally make his first bad movie, most likely followed up by a second.

Avatar was good for its visuals. There's no way a sequel can match its success, let alone two of them.

 

[antipunt]

Wow. They -got some balls-....

They're -really- gonna do it? My friend and I have been making jokes left to right about how the Na'vi are so terribly screwed (aka: there will never be a sequel, lulz). Let's see what kind of miracle they can pull of this time... TWICE

 

[Kinokohatake]

Go James! Give us another good one! A show to remember!
I think there is a lot to be excited about here, lets look at the facts:
#A: He wrote all three scripts at once, so the chance of discontinuity is reduced somewhat.
#B: He had to remove a LOT of stuff from the first one becasue Hollywood was sure it was going to fail, therefore forcing him to make a movie that could stand on its own, thus why the story was a little archatypical (so yeah, what the naysayers complain about, was kind done on purpose because the people who backed Cameron were only interested in the technology,not the film)
#C: James Cameron made Terminator 2 and Aliens, so he seems to be well versed in making good sequels, or at the very least decent ones.
#D: He has created a massive, beautiful and stunning universe, so the bones of a great story are there
#E: Although the story may contain characters and settings from the first, i get the impression that he will be expanding the universe, exploring new characters and new ideas, you know, the way you make a good sequel.
#F: Even if the second and third movies blow harder than a Narwal, there is still the kick-ass first movie to watch.
#G: NOthing's over while he's breathin!

Still, i am not looking forward to the uncreative fucks who think they are funny, going on and on about "pocahontas in space' or 'dances with Na'vi',you know, the ones too dim to come up with thier own material, the ones who seem to take pleasure in ruining so many htings for other people. Ah well, they are a small price to pay for a return to Pandora.

Long story short, thank you mr. Cameron all i need to do is wait until 2014 until i can get my crack fix. I jsut hope they second and third go well, it would be a shame for the franchise that got me into writing to fail. Good luck and may Eywa bless this project.

#A: Scripts go through COUNTLESS rewrites
#B: Sort of messes up your #A
#C: So those movies he made 2 decades ago are what make you excited? 20 year old resume entries don't excite me.
#D: He threw glow in the dark paint on everything. BLUE paint. It is a gaudy rainforest.
#E: Cameron already said that he wants to take the story underwater. So brush up on your Little Mermaid.
#F: Tell that to Star Wars fans. Bullshit retcon can and will happen.
#G: Unfortunately. Directors need to leave their characters alone. Avatar doesn't need a sequel like Indiana Jones didn't need another, or Star Wars a prequel.

 

[faceless chick]

oh god 2 SEQUELS??
1 was too much anyway.
please don't turn this into the next star wars franchise i've had it up to here with that series as well ;.;