Japanese Scientists Unveil Thinking, Learning Robot

[Tragedy's Rebellion]

Well think about it like this.
If they have emotions and sentience,wouldn't they see something a little fishy about being slaves to humans,and considering that they would most likely be stronger than us,don't you think they would want respect and compassion from those that they serve even though the humans would never understand that and continue to abuse them and treat them like servants.

Now picture yourself as a robot,wouldn't you want to do something to stop you and the other robots from being abused?

Then this raises the question: Why would we treat them like slaves? Nobody likes being a slave, obviously, and human slaves rebel against their "masters". I think we should treat them with respect and dignity; we created them after all.

 

[lolmynamewastaken]

"Self-Organizing Incremental Neural Network (SOINN)"
Well that scares my dick off.

on a related note,

Why are these captchas becoming so human proof?! i don't know how to make greek letters!

 

[Alphakirby]

Well think about it like this.
If they have emotions and sentience,wouldn't they see something a little fishy about being slaves to humans,and considering that they would most likely be stronger than us,don't you think they would want respect and compassion from those that they serve even though the humans would never understand that and continue to abuse them and treat them like servants.

Now picture yourself as a robot,wouldn't you want to do something to stop you and the other robots from being abused?

Then this raises the question: Why would we treat them like slaves? Nobody likes being a slave, obviously, and human slaves rebel against their "masters". I think we should treat them with respect and dignity; we created them after all.

Because not all people think like us,most if not all people are assholes in their own special ways and you can bet your ass some group of jerkoffs would do just that to the robots and it would lead to an uprising,because not everyone has a soul.

 

[Ukomba]

I was cool with it until the end where they explained that the robots can learn from each other.

Maybe it's just personal preference, but the Geth's beginning was pretty much the only sci-fi robot apocalypse scenario that ever actually made sense to me, and that's pretty much exactly what they seem to be setting up.

Though, these are probably going to be far too expensive to be showing up in those numbers in my lifetime.

I hope :/.

Look on the bright side. Legion is awsome.

 

[Ghengis John]

Why are the Japanese so obsessed with building better and better robots when we can't even employ all the people in the world as it is? I'm not advocating a Luddite agenda here, but it might be time to ask if what we need are more machines handling more applications for humans.

 

[Bloodstain]

Personally, I welcome our new robot overlords. I think this is awesome.

Where can I buy one? It'll be my personal robot fighter.

 

[Sporky111]

Very cool, that was an entertaining watch. I'd love to be able to understand that graphical representation that they showed, with the dots forming waves and circles and webs. Though, the part at 3:59 was kinda creepy. The way it kinda posed that way, as he was saying "it can learn from the internet" I had a little chill run down my spine.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

The fact it tries to solve all it's problems by straggling any person that gets in reach and demands, "SOLVE IT YOURSELF CHIMP!" is nothing to worry about!

 

[Zaik]

I was cool with it until the end where they explained that the robots can learn from each other.

Maybe it's just personal preference, but the Geth's beginning was pretty much the only sci-fi robot apocalypse scenario that ever actually made sense to me, and that's pretty much exactly what they seem to be setting up.

Though, these are probably going to be far too expensive to be showing up in those numbers in my lifetime.

I hope :/.

Look on the bright side. Legion is awsome.

Legion is awesome, what, 600 years after the Quarians bungle their way off their planet for good? I won't be around for that.

 

[McNinja]

Is it just me, or does this sound an awful lot like the Geth form Mass Effect? There goes the neighborhood.

 

[Farther than stars]

Useful, and amazing, but people ought to remind themselves that it is not self-aware, and that self-awareness is impossible with an Artificial intelligence.

I too believe in the existence of the human soul, but don't you think that it is unscientific to deny the possibility of self-awareness in machines? After all, neither you nor I can provide actual evidence that it isn't just a neurological construct which allows thought.
And what about animals? I argue that quite a lot of them are not actually "self-aware", but are definitely capable of complex tasks and even learning, as the sciences of classical and operant conditioning have taught us.
Come to think of it, if you believe in evolution, then you must also believe that self-awareness came to us during a stage of neurological development, which poses the question whether or not robots could evolve to become self-aware.
Like I said, I too believe in the existence of the human soul, but that makes it all the more important that I should take into account the possibility that synthetic life forms might exist. Because if I don't, I could potentially harm something which has the capability to feel without even realising it.

It is paradoxical. You cannot have AI that is self-aware, it will be REAL intelligence, not Artificial intelligence in that case.

Hmm, sounds like we're just discussing terms then. I propose that the circumstances which created that intellegence could still be artificial. Otherwise you could always change the term to synthetic life form, instead of AI.

 

[Farther than stars]

Think that's impressive?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKLuXUh3M4&feature=related

That is a robot telling a man he "loves" he is afraid of leaving for another country. The future's knocking on the door.

To be honest I think a robot actually learning something is more impressive. Sure, the mere mimicry of human expression like the Hanson robots do will have them pass the Turing Test, but it doesn't mean the robots are actually feeling for themselves.
I know you're not implying any different, but you're wording makes me feel the need to reiterate that this robot has been told to say that he is afraid by extracting information from humanly-compiled database, not because he's drawing a conclusion from a neurological response.

No, that robot hasn't been told to do ANYTHING since it was created. Everything it said in that video it said because of interaction with his creator and learning.

Exactly, but it's from learning from other social interactions, that it was able to take part in this one. The interesting thing about the Hanson robots is their advanced asthetics, which are capable of evoking emotions in other humans, but as long as they aren't feeling for themselves, I still prefere a robot to be able to pick up a cup.
You see, learning in the form that the Hanson robots do is basically just moving about 1s and 0s and then using mikes to deliver the product of the computed data. But I'm sure you can see how a robot which uses critical thinking to affect its surrounding 3D enviroment could be the start of something very useful, mechanically speaking.

 

[PissOffRoth]

"Please, Blue Fairy. Make me a real boy."

 

[PissOffRoth]

I dunno, DARPA in Boston made a pretty kick-ass robot. It's also creepy in how "alive" it looks, it almost behaves like a living quadruped.

This kicks ASIMO's ass. It reminds me of all the machines from MGS4.

 

[Farther than stars]

--snip--

My apologies for having a bit of fun with a post....?

I even smiled as I was typing it, of all the nerve eh?

Oh come now, no need to apologize. Sarcasm is misunderstood all the time online, since it is of course by nature ambiguous about a certain message. And since the internet is void of emotional feedback through tone and facial expression, the line between sarcasm, dark humour and sincerity can even be nonexistent at times.

 

[Bryshard Jackson]

Okay...not to throw a wrench in anything and WOW this really is a nice advancement for 'learning' Buuut....
Is "I can't do x, so I will do y" really that large a leap?
Understand, I've had my hands in psychology, ethics, and robotics before, and I know the limitations of programing, but isn't the concept of thinking slightly more complex than that?
Brains not only operate on past experiences, but emotional links to past acts as well...how does this robot recall what it needs to do? My own brain is frying thinking "what mental process went into 'Put water in cup'" and for it to realize that ice is needed to make water cold, the amount of processing power needed is a stagering amount when you think about it.
I'm going to talk myself into a hole with the amount of questions I want to raise, and don't think there's nearly enough time or space for me to ask them all but I'm really curious about the robot's 'thinking process'
How does it know an act even needs to be done?!
AHHH! I need to stop typing now or im not gonna stop!

EDIT: About that
'staggering amount' bit: I might be thinking that because I know the amount of accumulated information that my squishy human brain would have to sift through. Maybe that's why I'm not full on board impressed with this robot thinking on the level of an inept 2 year old with blocks. But then again...maybe I should be?

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

Think that's impressive?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKLuXUh3M4&feature=related

That is a robot telling a man he "loves" he is afraid of leaving for another country. The future's knocking on the door.

To be honest I think a robot actually learning something is more impressive. Sure, the mere mimicry of human expression like the Hanson robots do will have them pass the Turing Test, but it doesn't mean the robots are actually feeling for themselves.
I know you're not implying any different, but you're wording makes me feel the need to reiterate that this robot has been told to say that he is afraid by extracting information from humanly-compiled database, not because he's drawing a conclusion from a neurological response.

No, that robot hasn't been told to do ANYTHING since it was created. Everything it said in that video it said because of interaction with his creator and learning.

Exactly, but it's from learning from other social interactions, that it was able to take part in this one. The interesting thing about the Hanson robots is their advanced asthetics, which are capable of evoking emotions in other humans, but as long as they aren't feeling for themselves, I still prefere a robot to be able to pick up a cup.
You see, learning in the form that the Hanson robots do is basically just moving about 1s and 0s and then using mikes to deliver the product of the computed data. But I'm sure you can see how a robot which uses critical thinking to affect its surrounding 3D enviroment could be the start of something very useful, mechanically speaking.

Useful does not equal awesome.

But yeah I do see your point. But this isn't exactly new. IS still want a talking robot dog.

 

[k-ossuburb]

I dunno, DARPA in Boston made a pretty kick-ass robot. It's also creepy in how "alive" it looks, it almost behaves like a living quadruped.

This kicks ASIMO's ass. It reminds me of all the machines from MGS4.

And just think, if The Empire had that kind of technology none of their AT-ATs would've been tripped over on Hoth by a bunch of flipping tow-cables. >:[

DAMN YOU REBEL SCUM!

 

[The_Graff]

how long before the charming people at realdoll get ahold of this?

 

[Manoose47]

so if we were to follow this technology through its natural progression, would we not end up with robots fully capable of replacing hundreds of thousands of human workers, putting even more people out of work?

not much point of having a fancy robot bartender if no one can afford to come to buy drinks!

and so the great robo-depression of 2050 began!