Japanese Scientists Unveil Thinking, Learning Robot

[WabbitTwacks]

So what happens if you ask the robot to kill somebody and then it uses the hive mind to teach other robots to do it?

 

[Metalrocks]

some technologies are alright and good, but this i think is not alright at all. so much for i-robot and terminator. hope i will be dead when the war starts.
who knows. mass effect could turn out to be real.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

Think that's impressive?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKLuXUh3M4&feature=related

That is a robot telling a man he "loves" he is afraid of leaving for another country. The future's knocking on the door.

To be honest I think a robot actually learning something is more impressive. Sure, the mere mimicry of human expression like the Hanson robots do will have them pass the Turing Test, but it doesn't mean the robots are actually feeling for themselves.
I know you're not implying any different, but you're wording makes me feel the need to reiterate that this robot has been told to say that he is afraid by extracting information from humanly-compiled database, not because he's drawing a conclusion from a neurological response.

No, that robot hasn't been told to do ANYTHING since it was created. Everything it said in that video it said because of interaction with his creator and learning.

 

[anthony87]

Wow, that article was bad. Where did you even find that? It's style was all over the place. Why would the writer even suggest about avoiding that "cliché", when he's then going to go and say something like "you'll need that innate hope when the metal ones come for you"?
This just reads like blatent alarmism to me and look what it's fuelling:

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

Oh lord.. what are we doing..

and

Fucking hell Japan, you'll be the death of us all.

Look, I know it's the most reliable survival tactic to fear everything that's unfamiliar, but it's part of beign a human that we can use knowledge to counteract those primal fears. Yes, robots could potentially be turned into killing machines, but if humans managed to become social animals of which a staggeringly high percentage are docile (only 2.84 percent of death is caused by violence, which is by far the lowest of any carnivorous species) and we are the ones who have to teach robots to think, then we can also teach them to be agreeable creatures.
If they do turn into death machines, then that's won't be because robots themselves will be inherently evil or selfish, but because humans did that to them. I think by far the biggest undermined threat here is that PEOPLE SUCK. Not inherently of course, but it's the who do that have malicious intent and it would be those who would teach that to robots.
And furthermore, other revelations in science also caused social unrest, such as the discovery of nuclear fission and genetic engineering, but those never caused an apocolypse and probably never will (no matter how much fiction writers would have you believe that). This is also why I disagree with Jehovah's witnesses so much, because for all the doing good for humanity and listening to what J.C. said about loving each other, their insistence that there will be global ruination during the time that we are alive, simply isn't being realistic, considering that we've been around for millenia and life itself has been around for millions of years.
So, with that in mind, just sleep easy and carry on with life, because it's all going to be OK. But, I'm thirsty after all of this, so now I'm going to go and pour myself a nice cool cup of water.

Source: [link]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate[/link]

My apologies for having a bit of fun with a post....?

I even smiled as I was typing it, of all the nerve eh?

 

[Anti Nudist Cupcake]

Ok so wait, a robot that can exchange knowledge with other robots over the internet which is also a massive network?

Where have we seen that before... And what where the consequences of that ?

Spoiler

Oh yeah, that's what. They learned to shoot at things that contain organs.

 

[vid87]

So there's your fail-safe: before they all go rogue, program them to think that all water is actually a bunch of pebbles. Then, while they're chasing us, lead them into a river.

*Dusts off hands* Problem solved

 

[Atmos Duality]

Two posts in...and there's the boring Skynet reference.
*sigh*

It's the sort of thing that just sinks my interest in a topic I should be interested in.

Why always Japan with the technological leaps?

It's not always just Japan; but we tend to over-emphasize Japan's scientific contributions in publication.

 

[k-ossuburb]

Why always Japan with the technological leaps?

I dunno, DARPA in Boston made a pretty kick-ass robot. It's also creepy in how "alive" it looks, it almost behaves like a living quadruped.

 

[Tragedy's Rebellion]

Well think about it like this.
If they have emotions and sentience,wouldn't they see something a little fishy about being slaves to humans,and considering that they would most likely be stronger than us,don't you think they would want respect and compassion from those that they serve even though the humans would never understand that and continue to abuse them and treat them like servants.

Now picture yourself as a robot,wouldn't you want to do something to stop you and the other robots from being abused?

Then this raises the question: Why would we treat them like slaves? Nobody likes being a slave, obviously, and human slaves rebel against their "masters". I think we should treat them with respect and dignity; we created them after all.

 

[lolmynamewastaken]

"Self-Organizing Incremental Neural Network (SOINN)"
Well that scares my dick off.

on a related note,

Why are these captchas becoming so human proof?! i don't know how to make greek letters!

 

[Alphakirby]

Well think about it like this.
If they have emotions and sentience,wouldn't they see something a little fishy about being slaves to humans,and considering that they would most likely be stronger than us,don't you think they would want respect and compassion from those that they serve even though the humans would never understand that and continue to abuse them and treat them like servants.

Now picture yourself as a robot,wouldn't you want to do something to stop you and the other robots from being abused?

Then this raises the question: Why would we treat them like slaves? Nobody likes being a slave, obviously, and human slaves rebel against their "masters". I think we should treat them with respect and dignity; we created them after all.

Because not all people think like us,most if not all people are assholes in their own special ways and you can bet your ass some group of jerkoffs would do just that to the robots and it would lead to an uprising,because not everyone has a soul.

 

[Ukomba]

I was cool with it until the end where they explained that the robots can learn from each other.

Maybe it's just personal preference, but the Geth's beginning was pretty much the only sci-fi robot apocalypse scenario that ever actually made sense to me, and that's pretty much exactly what they seem to be setting up.

Though, these are probably going to be far too expensive to be showing up in those numbers in my lifetime.

I hope :/.

Look on the bright side. Legion is awsome.

 

[Ghengis John]

Why are the Japanese so obsessed with building better and better robots when we can't even employ all the people in the world as it is? I'm not advocating a Luddite agenda here, but it might be time to ask if what we need are more machines handling more applications for humans.

 

[Bloodstain]

Personally, I welcome our new robot overlords. I think this is awesome.

Where can I buy one? It'll be my personal robot fighter.

 

[Sporky111]

Very cool, that was an entertaining watch. I'd love to be able to understand that graphical representation that they showed, with the dots forming waves and circles and webs. Though, the part at 3:59 was kinda creepy. The way it kinda posed that way, as he was saying "it can learn from the internet" I had a little chill run down my spine.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

The fact it tries to solve all it's problems by straggling any person that gets in reach and demands, "SOLVE IT YOURSELF CHIMP!" is nothing to worry about!

 

[Zaik]

I was cool with it until the end where they explained that the robots can learn from each other.

Maybe it's just personal preference, but the Geth's beginning was pretty much the only sci-fi robot apocalypse scenario that ever actually made sense to me, and that's pretty much exactly what they seem to be setting up.

Though, these are probably going to be far too expensive to be showing up in those numbers in my lifetime.

I hope :/.

Look on the bright side. Legion is awsome.

Legion is awesome, what, 600 years after the Quarians bungle their way off their planet for good? I won't be around for that.

 

[McNinja]

Is it just me, or does this sound an awful lot like the Geth form Mass Effect? There goes the neighborhood.

 

[Farther than stars]

Useful, and amazing, but people ought to remind themselves that it is not self-aware, and that self-awareness is impossible with an Artificial intelligence.

I too believe in the existence of the human soul, but don't you think that it is unscientific to deny the possibility of self-awareness in machines? After all, neither you nor I can provide actual evidence that it isn't just a neurological construct which allows thought.
And what about animals? I argue that quite a lot of them are not actually "self-aware", but are definitely capable of complex tasks and even learning, as the sciences of classical and operant conditioning have taught us.
Come to think of it, if you believe in evolution, then you must also believe that self-awareness came to us during a stage of neurological development, which poses the question whether or not robots could evolve to become self-aware.
Like I said, I too believe in the existence of the human soul, but that makes it all the more important that I should take into account the possibility that synthetic life forms might exist. Because if I don't, I could potentially harm something which has the capability to feel without even realising it.

It is paradoxical. You cannot have AI that is self-aware, it will be REAL intelligence, not Artificial intelligence in that case.

Hmm, sounds like we're just discussing terms then. I propose that the circumstances which created that intellegence could still be artificial. Otherwise you could always change the term to synthetic life form, instead of AI.

 

[Farther than stars]

Think that's impressive?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKLuXUh3M4&feature=related

That is a robot telling a man he "loves" he is afraid of leaving for another country. The future's knocking on the door.

To be honest I think a robot actually learning something is more impressive. Sure, the mere mimicry of human expression like the Hanson robots do will have them pass the Turing Test, but it doesn't mean the robots are actually feeling for themselves.
I know you're not implying any different, but you're wording makes me feel the need to reiterate that this robot has been told to say that he is afraid by extracting information from humanly-compiled database, not because he's drawing a conclusion from a neurological response.

No, that robot hasn't been told to do ANYTHING since it was created. Everything it said in that video it said because of interaction with his creator and learning.

Exactly, but it's from learning from other social interactions, that it was able to take part in this one. The interesting thing about the Hanson robots is their advanced asthetics, which are capable of evoking emotions in other humans, but as long as they aren't feeling for themselves, I still prefere a robot to be able to pick up a cup.
You see, learning in the form that the Hanson robots do is basically just moving about 1s and 0s and then using mikes to deliver the product of the computed data. But I'm sure you can see how a robot which uses critical thinking to affect its surrounding 3D enviroment could be the start of something very useful, mechanically speaking.