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Gades

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Cap said:
No, they'd to do it a few times before they're labelled vexatious.
Oh! Okay! Clarification accepted.

Silentpony said:
But don't they have to prove that in a court of law? Like one judge thinking they're vexatious isn't enough, even if multiple suits are brought. DigiHom could argue Jim continues to slander and harass them, and the judge has ensured they're defenseless against him. There has to be a separate trial to prove DigiHom is simply wasting time for the sake of wasting time.
Well, won't the process of Pretrial (which is what this is) waste money to the court system and the Judge's time, as it would be better for him to had used it on more important cases than this. I believe they would have to pay the costs, cause in the end the systems time studying each case that is brought costs money.

As for the Vexations Litigant part, as I was clarified by Cap'nPipsqueak, and checked they need to have brought multiple lawsuit to then get then get described as Vexatious. So I believe then Judge would deny if for both been baseless, lack of evidence, Frivolous in nature (which I could happen as it is getting Jim to be silent) and the Jurisdiction aspect on the Defense Motion for Dismissal.
 

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EXCEPT for two things. First, we can be reasonably sure that the DigiHom brothers haven't got the mental capacity to be able to make that work...because all evidence points to them being atrocious. And second, we all blatently KNOW that Jim will basically go public with the means to put a stop to that, because that would simply be giving people who are dealing with shitty people some advice on how to handle it, and he's do it for free.
 

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Silentpony said:
But my understanding of the Legal system is there is no way to prevent DigiHom from suing other people, unless the State/Government brings charges of fraud/legal malpractice and gets a conviction. And even then, I'm sure there are ways to bring more suits.
On a purely practical level, all indications are that James Romine couldn't afford legal representation in his case against Jim. If that is the case, it's unlikely he would be able to afford to sue anyone else if he loses this time around.

Which is not to say he wouldn't. But when the filing fee alone is $400 in his home state, it's difficult to imagine him spending what could end up being a significant amount of money on other cases if he doesn't get some sort of payout from this one. Additionally, if he were to want to bring a case on behalf of his company - he'd be required by law to hire a professional lawyer to represent the company.
 

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Elwes said:
Silentpony said:
But when the filing fee alone is $400 in his home state, it's difficult to imagine him spending what could end up being a significant amount of money on other cases if he doesn't get some sort of payout from this one. Additionally, if he were to want to bring a case on behalf of his company - he'd be required by law to hire a professional lawyer to represent the company.
That's a damn good point, and is pretty easy to assume by now their cash had long since ran out in filing this, with their Gofundme been a failure and all their attempts to find support in the community having fallen on deaf ears.
 

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Silentpony said:
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If they lose, and the Judge denies the trial cause the lawsuit is Vexatious, then yeah, the Judge would force them to pay for wasting his time.
No, they'd to do it a few times before they're labelled vexatious. On the bright side, if they get labelled vexatious they're never allowed to sue anyone again.
But don't they have to prove that in a court of law? Like one judge thinking they're vexatious isn't enough, even if multiple suits are brought. DigiHom could argue Jim continues to slander and harass them, and the judge has ensured they're defenseless against him.
There has to be a separate trial to prove DigiHom is simply wasting time for the sake of wasting time.
While this is true, the judge can summarily dismiss the case with prejudice. This would force DigiHom to have to pay Jim's legal fees if not more and would be the first step on getting that vexatious ruling down the line.
 

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KoalaMan412 said:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/case/19146067/Romine_v_Unknown_Party_et_al
Uhhh care to provide a better link, cause all I see is asking to log in.

Update: Sorry but I went to the search, google it, marked Romine's full name and all that gives me are other cases with people who happened to have Romine in the last name, BUT nothing close to what you are sharing.
 

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Gades said:
KoalaMan412 said:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/case/19146067/Romine_v_Unknown_Party_et_al
Uhhh care to provide a better link, cause all I see is asking to log in.

Update: Sorry but I went to the search, google it, marked Romine's full name and all that gives me are other cases with people who happened to have Romine in the last name, BUT nothing close to what you are sharing.
Whoops, sorry I was still logged into my account. I just updated the link and you should be able to view it now.

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/19146067/Romine_v_Unknown_Party_et_al

So yeah...he is actually going to try to sue Steam members.
 

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KoalaMan412 said:
Gades said:
KoalaMan412 said:
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So I just looked at parts of it and it seems from what I can understand from his complaint, he still hasn't gotten the Steam members and other users names yet and has to subpeona at Valve to get their information. It's almost the same kind of complaint Romine did to Sterling in that lawsuit and is now demanding $17,967,500. And of course, he's representing himself. So that's kind of a gist of what I've been looking at and still looking over it even more. The bigger question is, will this even go through at all? Would Valve respond to this in any other way if this will get a subpeona?
 

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KoalaMan412 said:
Gades said:
KoalaMan412 said:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/case/19146067/Romine_v_Unknown_Party_et_al
Uhhh care to provide a better link, cause all I see is asking to log in.

Update: Sorry but I went to the search, google it, marked Romine's full name and all that gives me are other cases with people who happened to have Romine in the last name, BUT nothing close to what you are sharing.
Whoops, sorry I was still logged into my account. I just updated the link and you should be able to view it now.

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/19146067/Romine_v_Unknown_Party_et_al

So yeah...he is actually going to try to sue Steam members.
My God, he is an idiot ... oh well, guess he opened himself to be deemed a Vexatious Litigant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vexatious_litigation
 

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By the looks of things in the comments, it's this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO3xTI7Hyuc

And someone who was in the comments (now deleted): https://s22.postimg.io/h9eko129r/DH_Pic_02.png

"As a competitor in the market I'm going to be going after you especially hard" urgh....

Plus some others as yet unknown.

Seems to be all about that doxxing tumblr and "imposter" twitter from ages ago.
 

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lurkur said:
By the looks of things in the comments, it's this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO3xTI7Hyuc

And someone who was in the comments (now deleted): https://s22.postimg.io/h9eko129r/DH_Pic_02.png

"As a competitor in the market I'm going to be going after you especially hard" urgh....

Plus some others as yet unknown.

Seems to be all about that doxxing tumblr and "imposter" twitter from ages ago.
I'm pretty sure the second one is the developer for a game called Cycle of Tyrfing.

Here's a link to a YouTube video that shows a thread on the Steam forum for Cycle of Tyfing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FfT8ZtZtdg It was started by one of the Romines (Robert I think) and is a pretty funny read. Very passive aggressive. lol Starts around 11:09. The video maker is Lord Crocosquirrel (he was mentioned earlier in this thread I think), he has a couple interesting videos on Digital Homicide and it wouldn't surprise me if he was one of the people James Romine wants to sue as well.

All I can hope is DemonSword (the dev) and everyone else the Romines try this on are in a position where they don't have to give in.
 

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Youtuber SidAlpha confirms is at least 100 people the target of the lawsuit. He shared a link of the PDF files in the description.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKqxAFHqQ7k
 

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ONE HUNDRED??!!!!

Whole leaf yuck. I wasn't sure about the grounds for Vexatious Litigant before (esp not being in the US and shaky on law-stuffs) but maybe now...

This whole thing is disgusting, hopefully they can band together to fight this. Jimmy-boy said he wouldn't ask for help funding legal council, and has the advantage of a following and Patreon, but if these guys set up a joint gofundme or similar I'd certainly chuck something in.

Can't believe they're always cry harassment while going full-nuclear on anyone who criticises what they do. From the original "review the reviewer" dummy-spit to demanding MILLIONS off people, it's hypocritical overkill.

You could tell from the phone interview they did that all they care about is money. Here's hoping that the greedy censoring hacks get truly hoisted by their own petards.

Fuxache.
 

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Do you think this would make the new lawsuit open to be deemed "Vexatious" if the Judge sees so? Cause if you think about it, in less than a year, James Romine opens a second lawsuit while no decision has been made on the first one - in total over 100 people now (counting Jim) had been dragged to court for the man's own petulance in that period of time, and is asking for more money than in the first case. By now Judge Tuchi, the judge in the case against Jim, must well aware of what has happened, as his plaintiff has essentially open an near identical lawsuit to the one he is dealing behind his back.

Finally, I don't Valve will surrender those names without a fight and they will present probably a posse of lawyers that will use every legal meaning in the books, or the months and months of Spam Abuse reports they have receive from DigiHom without no end, just to have that subpoena denied - which in term could kill the lawsuit right there. And regardless of what happens to the subpoena, this move by Romine is one that Valve won't forgive them form, I bet you anything, they will make the full ban hammer move on them soon.

This time, Romine really cross the line, and they will get payback for this. This is it, they will get banned.
 

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So, are the Romines threatening to sue Valve if they don't give out the names of the Steam Users that they're trying to sue? Because that'd be suicide on DigiHom's part - without Steam, they don't have a platform to sell their "games" on, and I very much doubt that Valve wouldn't blacklist them from Steam for filing a lawsuit.

They'd be biting the hand that feeds them.
 

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Mangod said:
So, are the Romines threatening to sue Valve if they don't give out the names of the Steam Users that they're trying to sue? Because that'd be suicide on DigiHom's part - without Steam, they don't have a platform to sell their "games" on, and I very much doubt that Valve wouldn't blacklist them from Steam for filing a lawsuit.

They'd be biting the hand that feeds them.
Its DigiHom palbert. They killed themselves years ago and now their shambling corpse is simply lurching around trying to infect as many people as it can before their body finally disintegrates.
Given how the Romines spoke to Jim in their interview, I'll bet they truly believe themselves more useful to Steam than Jim. Despite Jim's popularity, despite his Curator list usually in the Top 3, despite Jim's channel showing off both good and bad Greenlight trailers, DigiHom truly think Steam would sooner side against Jim than risk DigiHom pulling their games.
 

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Mangod said:
So, are the Romines threatening to sue Valve if they don't give out the names of the Steam Users that they're trying to sue? Because that'd be suicide on DigiHom's part - without Steam, they don't have a platform to sell their "games" on, and I very much doubt that Valve wouldn't blacklist them from Steam for filing a lawsuit.

They'd be biting the hand that feeds them.
Beyond that, I think the Romines seem to have forgotten that Valve is a multi-billion dollar company that will be more than happy to run their asses straight into a homeless shelter for this nonsense. Going after someone with the resources of Jim Sterling is a far cry from trying to go after a corporation like Valve.
 

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Mangod said:
So, are the Romines threatening to sue Valve if they don't give out the names of the Steam Users that they're trying to sue? Because that'd be suicide on DigiHom's part - without Steam, they don't have a platform to sell their "games" on, and I very much doubt that Valve wouldn't blacklist them from Steam for filing a lawsuit.

They'd be biting the hand that feeds them.
Considering Valve has banned developers that have made threats at them before and (according to Digihom themselves) have considered blacklisting Digihom at some point, I can't see them hanging around long. It'll be interesting to see how Valve respond though, would it be possible they just agree to release the information?
 

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TrulyBritish said:
Mangod said:
So, are the Romines threatening to sue Valve if they don't give out the names of the Steam Users that they're trying to sue? Because that'd be suicide on DigiHom's part - without Steam, they don't have a platform to sell their "games" on, and I very much doubt that Valve wouldn't blacklist them from Steam for filing a lawsuit.

They'd be biting the hand that feeds them.
Considering Valve has banned developers that have made threats at them before and (according to Digihom themselves) have considered blacklisting Digihom at some point, I can't see them hanging around long. It'll be interesting to see how Valve respond though, would it be possible they just agree to release the information?
Well, I doubt that Valve would just give those names out without a courtorder to do so - customer confidentiality and what not, not to mention what it'd look like to Valve's customers if they just bent over to accomodate what is essentially a videogaming pariah.