Jim Sterling Leaves Destructoid (UPDATE: Jim Joins The Escapist!)

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Well that was... sudden. I expect a rapid and dramatic downturn in the number of podtiod listeners, assuming they don't just cancel it. It would be interesting if he took the same route as another former Dtoid person (Tara long) and joined Rev 3 games. Come to think of it that would be amazing, With Adam sessler and Jim Sterling in one place I would never need to look anywhere else for game reviews.
 

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Nokturos said:
Time to take Destructoid off my bookmark list, it seems.
Yeah... Jim was the only reason I ever went to Destructoid. I hear they have a decent community over there, but now that Jim's gone I suppose I'll never find out >.>
 

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rasputin0009 said:
I'd suggest that he was fired because of his Batman review, but I'm sure Jim would make more of a fuss if that was the truth. But he was fired. Or else he'd have a job lined up already. Now, we can all speculate on why without ever knowing because I don't think Jim will ever tell. He's too much of a sexy gentleman.
I don't think it looks like he was fired. It seems more like a mutual parting of ways with no bad blood. Think of when CliffyB stepped down from Epic. He wasn't fired by a board or stock holders, he simply didn't want to be there any more. This isn't anything like the ProJared/Screwattack thing. Christ that was messy...
 

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Like most similar things, I doubt we, the plebes, will ever know the full truth of the matter. In general, you don't see many people going off in detail about why they were fired from a job, because for one if you can't prove everything you say, you can get sued, and what's more the policies at many companies involve some degree of non-disclosure agreement, or at least have internal policies that make gathering proof of wrongdoing or a dispute themselves an offense that can get you fired. In most companies if you say record your boss lying to you, you violate an agreement not to use recording devices, and thus gave them cause to terminate you right there. It can be a huge mess. On top of all of this, a huge mudslinging match with a former employer tends to make it so nobody else wants to hire you, no matter how right you might be... As sharp tongued as Jim might be, he does apparently want to keep working in and around the industry, or at least the media portion of it, so I'd imagine even if this was really ugly, this is the kind of parting we'd see anyway simply out of a sense of professionalism.

*THAT* said, if I had to make guesses as to why Jim was let go, well I'd point out that he promotes himself as a "gun for hire", and seems to produce a decent amount of material. It wouldn't surprise me if Destructoid had some concerns about the extent of his activities, even Jim himself points out he can't focus on doing all of this other stuff and being a full time editor for them. Not to mention that Destructoid seems to be trying to promote itself as a highly professional, and dare I say "classy" site. Jim is a guy who just did a video here where he humped a blow up doll, that kind of thing doesn't exist in a state of limbo all by itself, everyone who associates with Jim has what he does in all of his material reflect on them to some extent. Jim's style of humor is great, but honestly if I was running Destructoid and had the intention that they seem to (keeping the irreverence within limits) that might render me concerned as well. Add to this that Jim continues a crusade against Gearbox, which while righteous, can be a touchy subject given the sheer amount of popularity that company has due to it's success with "Borderlands", it still moves decent amounts of content, and has a fanbase that seems pretty fanatical and to have already forgotten about "Aliens: Colonial Marines" for the most part. While not the kind of immediate backlash that hit Gerstmann over "Kane And Lynch" it wouldn't surprise me if Jim's crusade against Gearbox caught up with him, or at least contributed to this. Being RIGHT is sadly not what's always important... and again, the guy is "parting ways" with his previous employer shortly after humping a blow up doll which had a product from that company taped to it's face as the punchline.

At any rate, I wish Jim well, and hope he continues to be on The Escapist for a long time to come. He makes me laugh which is very important at this stage in my life... while also making some great points even if I frequently disagree with him in his overall conclusions.

I'm half asleep so hopefully this is all coherent. In short, I doubt we'll ever know what happened for a number of reasons, and I personally suspect that if he was "asked to leave" (or told to change or leave) his blow doll humping probably had more to do with it than backlash to a game review. I mean honestly, it was great, and hilarious, but it was kind of over the top and not everyone is going to want to be professionally associated with something like that no matter whose site it's on.
 

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The Plunk said:
Considering the extremely speedy growth of his Youtube channel, it wouldn't surprise me if he plans to focus exclusively on video content.

While I respect the man a lot, his review scores were frankly a load of chungus, so I won't miss them.
Maybe, but the big question is whether he can make a decent amount of money by doing that. From the comments I've read from Jim he seems to still need the money from reviewing when you consider everything else, and says he plans to keep doing it for one source or another, since he (in his own words) doesn't have much else in the way of skills. If he had a new, reliable, publisher lined up, he probably would have said "I'm now here". The fact that he hasn't moved on to another, regular, job immediately is why so many people (including me) see this as a firing, albeit one being covered in a professionally amicable parting as far as the public is concerned.

As I mentioned in my rambling, I'm guessing he got in trouble for the last Jimquisition he did here, more than a bad review, especially seeing as he apparently has another review to still be published by Destructoid. This leads me to believe that his reviews are not the problem. Jim is the most outrageous, and colorful, character on Destructoid and has been getting even more outrageous on sites like this one, which like it or not, are going to be something his other employers consider. Not to mention that despite being totally right to keep digging at Gearbox, at the end of the day we're at the sort of ongoing confrontation that rarely occurs in the gaming media. "Colonial Marines" are a horrible deception, and Gearbox has not paid for it, however despite their wrongdoing Gearbox has TONS of rabid fanboys because of the game series they did which is actually pretty good, and which they continue to support (even to the point of giving away tens of thousands of dollars in prizes through a contest recently). Sure, other people still criticize Gearbox, but not everyone humps a blow up doll with a copy of one of their games taped to the face with the punchline that it's the most horrific thing ever, especially not after all this time. The over the top content was probably the biggest thing, but I'd imagine professional sites that want money from Gearbox in the future might not want the constant antagonism either, which is a little different than taking bribes for the review of a specific game. One also has to consider the impact on rabid fanboys as well, having seen the antics of a few hardcore Borderlands players over the years I'd imagine at least a few people probably took the last Jimquisition as something close to a personal attack (healthy or not).
 

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Therumancer said:
Like most similar things, I doubt we, the plebes, will ever know the full truth of the matter. In general, you don't see many people going off in detail about why they were fired from a job, because for one if you can't prove everything you say, you can get sued
Also when looking for a job it's much better to have been working for your former employer until you quit rather than until the former employer fired you. This is why CEOs often quit after they've brought disaster upon the company rather than getting fired. It's better PR for both the company and the person getting the boot.
 

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You know, my brother predicted that Jim's days at Destructoid were numbered back when he did the Jimquisition episode defending Phil Fish after Fish lashed out at his critics. Perhaps Jim is sick of reviewing games on a big site and getting some of the same treatment.

Or perhaps, and possibly more likely, he's just going to do something different. Maybe he wants to go independent. He's doing his own youtube stuff now. Maybe he's looking to get into video game writing. This is all pure speculation, of course.

At any rate, I can't imagine Destructoid got rid of him. He's probably their main attraction, so unless his salary is considerably larger than the other staff I can't see him getting the boot.

Anyway, I hope this doesn't mean the end to Jim hosting podtoid. That would be a real shame.
 

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I've always wondered how Jim was able to produce all of his works for Destructoid and the Escapist at such as fierce pace and wondered how he could keep up with it, I guess here is the answer.

If there is one thing I like about Jim, it's his unwaning pro-consumer integrity. I love his work and I will always follow him where he goes.

As for why he left? Maybe his integrity outgrew that of Destructoid's. But this is just speculation.

For what it is worth, This means Jim will now have more time for the escapist. I'd love to see where he goes from here.
 

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Caiphus said:
He's probably their main attraction,
Your right actually.

The only reason why I bothered with Destructoid was literally because Jim Sterling was there.

Not that the other writers were bad, but they weren't really all that interesting outside of your normal fares of writers.

This also seems to be the same perception on this thread, and Destructoid.

Articles Jim makes tend to get the most views on that site.
 

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Dragonbums said:
Your right actually.

The only reason why I bothered with Destructoid was literally because Jim Sterling was there.

Not that the other writers were bad, but they weren't really all that interesting outside of your normal fares of writers.

This also seems to be the same perception on this thread, and Destructoid.

Articles Jim makes tend to get the most views on that site.
Indeed. It would be like the Escapist firing Yahtzee. Even after the storm in a teacup that occurred after those trans jokes, he still brings in a hell of a lot of traffic. It wouldn't make any sense.
 

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I could see him starting with Polaris (formerly The Games Station). He has good chemistry with the people there. I'm personally not much of a fan of him, but I do enjoy some podcasts he's done. I hope he finds a good new place to stay, this industry can always use some more intelligent criticism.
 

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Fappy said:
Yeah... Jim was the only reason I ever went to Destructoid. I hear they have a decent community over there, but now that Jim's gone I suppose I'll never find out >.>
True. I was actually thinking about joining on Destructoid but now... it won't be the same without Jim. From what I hear Destructoid is the sort of site that loves controversy so I'll probably read up reviews there every one and awhile.
 

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Aww man. That's unexpected. I have a void to fill on Thursdays now without Podtoid :(
It seemed like Jim was doing less and less for the actual Podtoid site but his articles I really looked forward to reading.
Oh well. New things then :)
Good luck Jim
 

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Mersadeon said:
I could see him starting with Polaris (formerly The Games Station). He has good chemistry with the people there. I'm personally not much of a fan of him, but I do enjoy some podcasts he's done. I hope he finds a good new place to stay, this industry can always use some more intelligent criticism.
Huh, considering his growing channel on YouTube and his recent appearance on Co-Optional podcast it might actually be the case. How come I've never thought of that possibility. I would be really happy to see Jim becoming part of Polaris, I really enjoy their network, and seeing more collaboration between Jim, TB, JesseCox, Dodger, Angry Joe and others would be awesome!
 

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This doesn't surprise me, it's a new gen with alot of money riding on core gamers been as hyped as possible. A person like Jim rocking the boat at Dtiod won't sit well with the industry.

I hope everything works out for Jim in the longterm.
 

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Dragonbums said:
rasputin0009 said:
I'd suggest that he was fired because of his Batman review, but I'm sure Jim would make more of a fuss if that was the truth. But he was fired. Or else he'd have a job lined up already. Now, we can all speculate on why without ever knowing because I don't think Jim will ever tell. He's too much of a sexy gentleman.
Jim has posted more controversial stuff before.

Why exactly would a Batman review land him the axe?
Perhaps Batman was the last straw in a series of annoyances or disappointments. Not that I would know of any, I only sporadically watch Jimquisition.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Dragonbums said:
rasputin0009 said:
I'd suggest that he was fired because of his Batman review, but I'm sure Jim would make more of a fuss if that was the truth. But he was fired. Or else he'd have a job lined up already. Now, we can all speculate on why without ever knowing because I don't think Jim will ever tell. He's too much of a sexy gentleman.
Jim has posted more controversial stuff before.

Why exactly would a Batman review land him the axe?
Perhaps Batman was the last straw in a series of annoyances or disappointments. Not that I would know of any, I only sporadically watch Jimquisition.
That would be a hypocrisy of gaming journalism. Especially since they love their precious page view clicks.
Not to mention a good chunk of Destructoid only really come for...well...Jim.

I think this is one of those directional changes that just doesn't match up with him, and he simply chose to leave.

Especially hypocritcal seeing as how they had no problems with Jim's other "stunts" (not that giving an honest review of a game is a stunt, but this is very low tier compared to some things he has done on there- see his 2DS "review)
 

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You know, I've followed Jim since he began the Jimquisition over a year ago, but I haven't really enjoyed his content until his youtube channel took off. There's just something about it; maybe the consistency or increased frequency of experiencing his personality, or actually seeing him play games that puts something much more substantial behind his persona (I mean, we can all say that he's pretty smart from the points he makes here and on Dtoid, but this still means something, dammit!).

Whatever you do, Jim, may it be with the best of luck!