Jimquisition: Better Does Not Mean Good

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Strazdas

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Strazdas said:
The episide is good but examples arent.
Sure american poor may be poor, but they still live better than my countries rich.
So you're living on the streets, wondering when your next meal will be, and dreading winter...all while surfing the net on your computer?
No. neither does an average american crying "were poor". Not long ago on this very forum i had a discussion where a guy spent 120 on electricity along and claimed he was living bad.
 

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Strazdas said:
Rednog said:
Strazdas said:
The episide is good but examples arent.
Sure american poor may be poor, but they still live better than my countries rich.
So you're living on the streets, wondering when your next meal will be, and dreading winter...all while surfing the net on your computer?
No. neither does an average american crying "were poor". Not long ago on this very forum i had a discussion where a guy spent 120 on electricity along and claimed he was living bad.
You said the poor in America are living better than the richest people in your country.
If you honestly think that it true you are absolutely delusional.
We have plenty of people who are poor who live on the streets, don't have food, and don't have homes so please take your bigotry and hate for America and plug it somewhere else.
 

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Hm, actually I've noticed that nowadays I buy more games on a later date, with a discount, although I have money. And that is directly tied to the way publishers sell it. For example, I have no problem buying Dark Souls or Shadows of The Damned day 1 at full price. You pay, you get the whole game, maybe there will be DLC, maybe not. However I've also wanted to buy Prototype 2 day 1 (liked the original) but now it comes with this Radnet pass, and not only that - CE comes with a code for DLC... In this case I just feel like waiting until I can buy the full game. Same with Asura Wraith - BTW I don't know if they released all episodes already or not? And it happens more and more often. In 2008-2009 I got almost all PS3 games day 1, but now...
Yeah, it could be worse, at least some games are sold complete. But it will get worse as major publishers try to milk as much as they can from consumers.
 

Strazdas

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Rednog said:
Strazdas said:
Rednog said:
Strazdas said:
The episide is good but examples arent.
Sure american poor may be poor, but they still live better than my countries rich.
So you're living on the streets, wondering when your next meal will be, and dreading winter...all while surfing the net on your computer?
No. neither does an average american crying "were poor". Not long ago on this very forum i had a discussion where a guy spent 120 on electricity along and claimed he was living bad.
You said the poor in America are living better than the richest people in your country.
If you honestly think that it true you are absolutely delusional.
We have plenty of people who are poor who live on the streets, don't have food, and don't have homes so please take your bigotry and hate for America and plug it somewhere else.
I said rich, not richest. Here My earnings are around 1000 dollars a month and that is considered rich. Most people claim that you cant have a roof above you for that in america, so blame them perhaps?
 

Rednog

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Strazdas said:
Rednog said:
Strazdas said:
Rednog said:
Strazdas said:
The episide is good but examples arent.
Sure american poor may be poor, but they still live better than my countries rich.
So you're living on the streets, wondering when your next meal will be, and dreading winter...all while surfing the net on your computer?
No. neither does an average american crying "were poor". Not long ago on this very forum i had a discussion where a guy spent 120 on electricity along and claimed he was living bad.
You said the poor in America are living better than the richest people in your country.
If you honestly think that it true you are absolutely delusional.
We have plenty of people who are poor who live on the streets, don't have food, and don't have homes so please take your bigotry and hate for America and plug it somewhere else.
I said rich, not richest. Here My earnings are around 1000 dollars a month and that is considered rich. Most people claim that you cant have a roof above you for that in america, so blame them perhaps?
Prices are relevant to your country's economy, your 1000 a month most likely carries much more weight in your country than it would in America, but that doesn't make you magically worse off than people who say make double that amount in the US, their relative buying power locally would be far less.
Hell look at Australia their average minimum wage is double that of the U.S., why aren't you hating on them?
 

Strazdas

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Rednog said:
Strazdas said:
Rednog said:
Strazdas said:
Rednog said:
Strazdas said:
The episide is good but examples arent.
Sure american poor may be poor, but they still live better than my countries rich.
So you're living on the streets, wondering when your next meal will be, and dreading winter...all while surfing the net on your computer?
No. neither does an average american crying "were poor". Not long ago on this very forum i had a discussion where a guy spent 120 on electricity along and claimed he was living bad.
You said the poor in America are living better than the richest people in your country.
If you honestly think that it true you are absolutely delusional.
We have plenty of people who are poor who live on the streets, don't have food, and don't have homes so please take your bigotry and hate for America and plug it somewhere else.
I said rich, not richest. Here My earnings are around 1000 dollars a month and that is considered rich. Most people claim that you cant have a roof above you for that in america, so blame them perhaps?
Prices are relevant to your country's economy, your 1000 a month most likely carries much more weight in your country than it would in America, but that doesn't make you magically worse off than people who say make double that amount in the US, their relative buying power locally would be far less.
Hell look at Australia their average minimum wage is double that of the U.S., why aren't you hating on them?
Except that prices are very similar to american ones here. Infact there are things, like oil products, that you pay less for. The main price difference is rent.
 

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"It could be worse."

Response: "Of course it could be worse! That's why I'm complaining! To make sure it doesn't become worse!"
 

Zydrate

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I have never laughed so hard at him as I have when he pulled up a Raisin Bran box.
 

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You know I can handle extreme arrogance and a monumental god complex when the man spouting such words knows what he's talking about. Bravo Jim Sterling, may your god-like reign continue ever more.
 

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Again with the "pick random forum post with weak argument, slay weak argument" routine. Between that and reflecting common gamer attitude towards exploitative business practices, there's not much else, is there?

Zydrate said:
I have never laughed so hard at him as I have when he pulled up a Raisin Bran box.
Oh come on, most obvious joke in the world, I was just waiting for which product it was :p

Also, I know where your name is from and I'm not sure that's a good thing...though I'm gonna go listen to Chase the Morning again.
 

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Adam Jensen said:
I can somewhat tolerate people who say things like "it could be worse". I can tolerate them on the internet. In real life I'd probably break their fingers. But people who defend publishers and developers on a daily basis are fuckin' retarded and I have to speak up when I see one of those fucktards. What surprises me is that The Escapist is full of people who defend day 1 DLC, on-disc DLC, day 1 on-disc DLC and shit like that. How stupid do you have to be to defend someone who's taking your money and fucking you in the ass at the same time.
From my experience, "It could be worse" is the clearest indicator of someone who thinks they're acting mature and even-handed, when in fact they're just lazy and apathetic but still feel the need to say SOMETHING.

I'd argue that the phrase is a modern platitude.

Of course, the real danger of that attitude en-masse, is that with mass-apathy comes a lack of resistance to change; including change for the worse.

When the Horse Armor DLC was revealed to be on the Oblivion's disc, people would legitimately outraged. Now, it's part-and-parcel for the business. Few fought against it and so it became legitimized not through mass-approval, but through minority approval and mass-apathy.

...which now that I think about it, mirrors voter turnout and the general public attitude in real life. Scary.
 

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deth2munkies said:
Zydrate said:
I have never laughed so hard at him as I have when he pulled up a Raisin Bran box.
Oh come on, most obvious joke in the world, I was just waiting for which product it was :p

Also, I know where your name is from and I'm not sure that's a good thing...though I'm gonna go listen to Chase the Morning again.
Teehee!

It did honestly catch me off guard. I'm not sure why.
 

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I'm surprised your not outraged that the publishers are nickel and diming us Australians by jacking up the prices far beyond the profit point simply because it's "the norm" (And thus not newsworthy).

Well... Guess I'll just stick to ozgameshop.com

daxterx2005 said:
The Australian accent was freaking hilarious.
That was a french accent. Please don't confuse the two; my accent is better than the french.
 

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Gather said:
I'm surprised your not outraged that the publishers are nickel and diming us Australians by jacking up the prices far beyond the profit point simply because it's "the norm" (And thus not newsworthy).

Well... Guess I'll just stick to ozgameshop.com

daxterx2005 said:
The Australian accent was freaking hilarious.

That was a french accent. Please don't confuse the two; my accent is better than the french.
Pretty sure that was the point....
He was doing a crappy job and it was hilarious.
 

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@ Jimothy Sterling - I re-watched your video from a year ago today and then this one. You've seriously improved. Keep up the good work Jim and "Thank god" for you
 

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Just had to pipe up about Extra Credits / Jimquisition

I fundamentally like both shows, but I've begun to realise that EC is probably
always going to go down the 'properly educational' route whereas J tends to be
more free to vent and pour scorn on the really nasty parts of the industry. (and
press, and communities...)

That's fine, and there's a place for them both. I can just see that EC has the
benefit of hordes of wannabe game developers (no shame in that) as their audience;
J is more likely to take the view of the consumer - again - only a complete chump
would ignore one at the expense of the other. I find game dev interesting but have
no plans to do it as a career, so J is generally more entertaining for me: if only
because he doesn't take the softly softly approach of EC that feels like you're
being lightly lectured to sometimes - probably intentional, and fair enough!

It hurts my academic brain to suggest it, but sometimes outright scorn is more effective than objective criticism. The more I watch of J the more I see what kinds of dirty tricks
the industry gets up to and gets away with! Things that have never personally affected me
like day one DLC, but I still get narked about. For game devs I guess J is usually 'what not to do' and EC is more 'what to do better'.