Jimquisition: EA Access ... Denied
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Just get a PC and play the classic... Steam has sales and stuff and GOG and the masterpieces that wont disappoint , these are the only options left...
Well, it was nice knowing you AAA gaming but at this point I'm out.Jimothy Sterling said:
Because apart from the new Borderlands all your recent offerings can go eat a dick.
First i will never pay for demos - they are their to tempt us to buy the full game. Its why early access is awful - now it can work for some games, but alot of companies will abuse it. I think DLC is a good thing, well was a good thing, was great when it was an extra a few months after a game was released. Was a nice extra. Now DLC is now made as part of the original and advertised before the original game is even released. It seems more a cash grab than when DLC was first released years ago. Before it was something extra for the fans, a fun surprise, now they just take parts that fans want. The popular characters or levels.
Is anyone else having any problems with the video?, i can't get it to load/start
Edit:Nvm,i got it to work
Edit:Nvm,i got it to work
I was having a problem with it for a while getting the video to run
at the end of the day, as long as it stays a good deal... It's fine. Believe me this looks like the jab back at Gamestop for used games sales devs kinda needed, You have ea access? here's the game early, and you paid that 10% less, that the used price would be.
30 bucks a year, to damn much, 5 bucks the month that a bunch of titles you want comes out, fine.
Once content becomes Exclusive you have to be ea access to do it like free games with PS+ Then the BS alarms and it's time to drop it.
Gamers might as well abuse it for what it's worth now tho.
at the end of the day, as long as it stays a good deal... It's fine. Believe me this looks like the jab back at Gamestop for used games sales devs kinda needed, You have ea access? here's the game early, and you paid that 10% less, that the used price would be.
30 bucks a year, to damn much, 5 bucks the month that a bunch of titles you want comes out, fine.
Once content becomes Exclusive you have to be ea access to do it like free games with PS+ Then the BS alarms and it's time to drop it.
Gamers might as well abuse it for what it's worth now tho.
Oh come on it can't be that ba-
Uh... Well, let's just calm down an-
Not sure it's decades old but I just thought the whole dangerous beast and miserable ends bit felt kind of applicable.
Also mini grey could be Minitiature Fantasy Willem Dafoe.
Oh...Jimothy Sterling said:
Uh... Well, let's just calm down an-
Ooh...Jimothy Sterling said:
Not sure it's decades old but I just thought the whole dangerous beast and miserable ends bit felt kind of applicable.
Also mini grey could be Minitiature Fantasy Willem Dafoe.
I think this is a good thing, I already enjoy the escapist subscription giving me early access to Jimquistion videos and also an exclusive behind the scenes look a the making of Jim. I must say its inspirational and at such a bargain price.
2010's the decade of walled gardens as consumerism marches proudly on.
2010's the decade of walled gardens as consumerism marches proudly on.
With every major publisher having his Steam knock-off, there is good chance that they also will emulate the EA Access model.
But there is hope once the publishers start competing, they need to attract players and side-goodies will only net you so much loyality.
I hope there will be new drive to make quality games, with publishers competing over having the best game library and not just the best extras. I think most gamers are savvy enough to see through cheap attemps to gain their brand loyalty.
But there is hope once the publishers start competing, they need to attract players and side-goodies will only net you so much loyality.
I hope there will be new drive to make quality games, with publishers competing over having the best game library and not just the best extras. I think most gamers are savvy enough to see through cheap attemps to gain their brand loyalty.
Was it just me, or did that Angry Sim look like she stabbed the Happy Sim with her cup? I hope I'm not the only one who saw that.
While not a sequel I think this is somewhat close to Planescape: Torment (I assume that's what you mean)MarsAtlas said:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-numenera
Our glorious (and gloriously buggerable) Prophet! Sing for us!
Heavens above, these Access experiments look like a rotten future deal. At this rate, all I'll have left is Dwarf Fortress.
http://i.imgur.com/8mnMIqZ.png
"Your path of ruin ends here, scum!"
Heavens above, these Access experiments look like a rotten future deal. At this rate, all I'll have left is Dwarf Fortress.
I can already picture our valiant defense of the studios that still remains free.gyrobot said:
http://i.imgur.com/8mnMIqZ.png
"Your path of ruin ends here, scum!"
I'd pay $30 a year to bum Jim.
But in all seriousness, yeah, I've figured this is the future, so instead of laying down my life for my corporate overlords, Imma make me and emulation box and live in the past.
But in all seriousness, yeah, I've figured this is the future, so instead of laying down my life for my corporate overlords, Imma make me and emulation box and live in the past.
Jim before you can say something is better than sex you should explain what sex is like so we have some basis to compare it to. Even describe what being kissed is like so those of us who haven't been kissed again have a basis. Also part of me loves how accurate you are but I'm also saddened because that just means we consumers are getting boned. Next time you have an accurate prophecy for us please make it a good one, we could use some good news every now and then, like a life preserver to keep our heads above the shit in the game industry's endless ocean of feces.
A very good video that adequately describes the problems with this "service". I actually also find it ridiculous that they are holding hostage games even more than before with "5 day early release". What so now the subscription members become bug testers even more so than the original paying customers have been in the past? But what else to expect?
But that aside, I have an addition to what your saying here Jim. Another very good reason to be skeptical is the same reason to be skeptical for any subscription, what you get out of it all the time, not just now. Most subscription services are completely predicated on users NOT using them. Its not about the money you spend when your buying games... which only saves the user about a dollar anyway... its about the money they get in the down periods. Its free money for no effort. What happens when they don't release a game for 4 - 6 months but your still paying for it? That's free money for EA. There is little real value for what they're giving. And I suspect they'll increase the price in a year or two with the same bullshit excuse, inflation. If inflation was so prevalent then companies wouldn't start they're pricing at very low prices all the time. I see no reason to fuel this for the reasons Jim gives, especially the possible standard it sets of everyone trying to charge for a premium priced service, and the one I've added.
That being said, what benefit does this serve when there are multiple store fronts that give games for roughly the same price with no stipulations attached and have ridiculous sales, such as Steam and GoG?
But that aside, I have an addition to what your saying here Jim. Another very good reason to be skeptical is the same reason to be skeptical for any subscription, what you get out of it all the time, not just now. Most subscription services are completely predicated on users NOT using them. Its not about the money you spend when your buying games... which only saves the user about a dollar anyway... its about the money they get in the down periods. Its free money for no effort. What happens when they don't release a game for 4 - 6 months but your still paying for it? That's free money for EA. There is little real value for what they're giving. And I suspect they'll increase the price in a year or two with the same bullshit excuse, inflation. If inflation was so prevalent then companies wouldn't start they're pricing at very low prices all the time. I see no reason to fuel this for the reasons Jim gives, especially the possible standard it sets of everyone trying to charge for a premium priced service, and the one I've added.
That being said, what benefit does this serve when there are multiple store fronts that give games for roughly the same price with no stipulations attached and have ridiculous sales, such as Steam and GoG?
I don't see the logic in refusing a pretty good deal on the grounds that it will cause water to run down hill, bears to defecate in the woods and the pope to convert to catholicism.Loop Stricken said:
Being an inveterate critic of the status quo and an unthinking conservative makes no sense.
Man, I really wish I didn't have to pay for online services or multiplayer access or early release or pre-download...oh...wait...I don't...I game on a PC.
EDIT: To actually contribute:
Okay, 5 bucks a month. And you get some things that should be free already (early access, pre-download, demos, etc) and some things you'd have to pay for (games). But why do you think EA is giving you access to this stuff? What's their motivation?
MONEY. Any other motivation makes no sense. EA doesn't love you. They don't care if you're happy. They just want your money. So, apparently, that good deal you think you're getting, well, it's a better deal for EA.
Somehow, the people behind this project at EA convinced some shareholders that they would earn MORE money doing this than not doing this. This MUST mean, by extension, that if this service didn't exist, you'd give EA LESS money than you'd give them if this service did exist.
But how is that possible? You're getting free games, right?!? I mean, surely free games > 30 bucks a year? That short answer is no, the free games, for the VAST majority of people, will not be > 30 bucks a year. EA will pull all sorts of shenanigans to make sure you get little to no value out of your 30 bucks a month. You'll get games you already own, games you don't want to play, and games without DLC or pre-order content. That's all for sure. You might also get games missing key features. Say a version of Battlefield where you don't get to play Single Player at all, and you're limited to 1 type of map or 1 type of game mode. Things like that (although that last bit is pure speculation).
At the end of the day, the key thing to remember here is EA wants to give you LESS content for MORE money. If they suddenly come to your door and say "LOOK AT ALL THIS CONTENT! It's only 30 bucks a year! Isn't that super?" You can be 100% positive that nestled in that content somewhere is a giant turd sandwich. In fact, you can be pretty sure that the vast, overwhelming majority of that "content" IS a turd sandwich.
Just remember. EA doesn't care about ANYTHING except getting you to give them your money. This is NOT a good deal. How can we tell? If it was a good deal, EA wouldn't be offering it to you. It's that bloody simple.
EDIT: To actually contribute:
This is NOT a good deal for anyone but EA. Let's break it down.Wulfram77 said:
Okay, 5 bucks a month. And you get some things that should be free already (early access, pre-download, demos, etc) and some things you'd have to pay for (games). But why do you think EA is giving you access to this stuff? What's their motivation?
MONEY. Any other motivation makes no sense. EA doesn't love you. They don't care if you're happy. They just want your money. So, apparently, that good deal you think you're getting, well, it's a better deal for EA.
Somehow, the people behind this project at EA convinced some shareholders that they would earn MORE money doing this than not doing this. This MUST mean, by extension, that if this service didn't exist, you'd give EA LESS money than you'd give them if this service did exist.
But how is that possible? You're getting free games, right?!? I mean, surely free games > 30 bucks a year? That short answer is no, the free games, for the VAST majority of people, will not be > 30 bucks a year. EA will pull all sorts of shenanigans to make sure you get little to no value out of your 30 bucks a month. You'll get games you already own, games you don't want to play, and games without DLC or pre-order content. That's all for sure. You might also get games missing key features. Say a version of Battlefield where you don't get to play Single Player at all, and you're limited to 1 type of map or 1 type of game mode. Things like that (although that last bit is pure speculation).
At the end of the day, the key thing to remember here is EA wants to give you LESS content for MORE money. If they suddenly come to your door and say "LOOK AT ALL THIS CONTENT! It's only 30 bucks a year! Isn't that super?" You can be 100% positive that nestled in that content somewhere is a giant turd sandwich. In fact, you can be pretty sure that the vast, overwhelming majority of that "content" IS a turd sandwich.
Just remember. EA doesn't care about ANYTHING except getting you to give them your money. This is NOT a good deal. How can we tell? If it was a good deal, EA wouldn't be offering it to you. It's that bloody simple.
