Jimquisition: I Hate Videogames (Because I Love Them)

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xPixelatedx

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I agree with most of what you said, save for this comment:"take the nostalgia goggles off".

I am a multi-console user, I usually get all three of the big contenders for the living room and I even started dabbling with PC gaming this gen. That said, I have done this since the NES era of gaming, and I couldn't be more disappointed right now. Case in point, I have 5 games for my PS3, only 4 of which I like. The ones I enjoyed are MGS4, Little Big Planet 1&2, and 3D Dot Game Heroes (I am not counting all the HD remakes I own because those are from the last gen, really). Out of the 50+ games I've played for this console these 4 were the only ones I liked enough to buy. Do you know how big my catalog of PS1 and PS2 games is? I have 30+ for both those consoles each, all of which are just amazing games. For good contrast I never owned more then 10 games for my original xbox, and I used to consider that the biggest dud in my collection, but not anymore.
Speaking of the xbox I have about 15 360 games, but again - I am going to be honest here - I probably only truly enjoy about 4 of them. This is probably why my 360 collection is mostly made of of traded games I keep cycling through and changing. I can say without a doubt I wouldn't shed one tear if a meteorite hit my 360 collection. I would actually just sell my 360 right now if it wasn't for the fact that Shadow Complex is my favorite game this gen. Yeah.. that's basically all that's stopping me, nothing else... just that. I loved Castle Crashers and Harmony of Despair, but now that most people don't play them they are pretty much moot and dead (such is the problem with multilayer-only games), while Braid and Limbo are also in my steam library, so... yeah. Why own a 360?
And my wii is basically just that. There isn't much of a point to it outside of the Nintendo exclusives, which we all knew were going to be very few and in between. Now that it's run it's course, I am not sorry to see it go. Again, like the PS3, this thing had a drastically smaller selection of good games then it's predecessor. That's really all I can say about it.


Yet, in light of all this, I am still hunting down and playing some PS1, PS2, Dreamcast and SNES games for the first time and they are wowing me. That's not nostalgia talking, that's the here and now. At some point people are going to have to just accept the fact that the previous generations had a much different style of gaming (different flavors for each gen) and some people just liked some of the older ones better. It's really that simple.
 

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mrjoe94 said:
What is the game shown in the video around 1:30?
That is probably Arkham Asylum but I've never played so I can't say for a certainty.


Also, that is one awesome conspiracy theory RabidKitten.
 

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Quote of the Week:
"I love videogames, sometimes with my penis."
xD
 

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Out of curiosity, what was the steam punk looking game that showed up a few times?

Good video though, looking forward to the next one.
 

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I remember seeing this funny picture that has this Star Trek fan standing in front of this bookcase of Star Trek stuff with a little speech bubble saying "You know I'm the biggest fan because I hate it more than anyone!" And it's kind of true, you see a lot of hardcore fans of something complaining about everything they don't like about what they're supposed to be fans of. While I'm not against commenting on something you don't like, some fans take it WAY too far.
 

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Hatchet90 said:
How dare Chick-Fil-A support the idea that traditional marriage should be between a man and a woman, truly they are bigots of the highest order *sarcasm.
Yes. Yes they are. *not sarcasm
 

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balberoy said:
carnex said:
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That means, as long as you buy games, they will continue to do what they do because they would lose money doing otherwise.
Sry Jim he is right.

Stop buying games is the only way to stop EA, Activision and Ubisoft.

Ubisoft even hacks into your browser, evidently.
Stop supporting those companies, do not buy their games.

Thats the only way to beat them,
if you Jim really love video games,
say that people shall stop buying them.

There just is no other way.

with regards
The problem with this is that it also hurts developers, not just the publisher. I really don't like giving money to EA, but I want to support Bioware so I buy their games.
 

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Talvrae said:
Well at least EA support gay marriage, at opposition of Chick Follley or whaterver is the name of that fastfood chains (they don't exist on my area pardon my ignorence....)
Hatchet90 said:
How dare Chick-Fil-A support the idea that traditional marriage should be between a man and a woman, truly they are bigots of the highest order *sarcasm.
Jimothy Sterling said:
Who said that? I certainly didn't. I said their chicken tastes like hating gay people, and that the hating of gay people smells like fucking shit.

I stand by that claim. It has been lab-tested.
Jim: I take it that you like the product (Chick-Fil-A sandwiches) but hate the business (Chick-Fil-A corporation). Just like you like games, but hate the business that sells them. And that's your God-given right.
 

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Kind of how I feel about Bethesda, their games are brilliant such as Skyrim and hopefully Dishonored will be good, but i hate their bias against the PS3 and not releasing Dawnguard for the PS3.

Also on a short side note, love the hat Jim
I think they do plan on releasing it but MS has that timed exclusivity they like so much but Bethesda does seem to have something against the ps3 as their ports are always more broken than the other versions.

Besides the reasons Jim mentioned, I don't mind saying I hate my ps3 for that reason (and Bethesda isn't the only one with shoddy ports on the ps3)and for the reason that even Sony itself doesn't bother giving the ps3 any decent firmware support. It's like they want it to be sandbagged.
I do love Valkyria Chronicles though.

The real problem I think is that because so many gamers are too forgiving to the publishers (they keep getting more ballsy with their nickel and dimeing), the platform developers (how long was MS allowed to get away with the RROD?), and even the retailers (used games for $2 short of the new price or sold as a new game); it seems that these companies don't feel like they need to try very hard anymore. But the sad thing is that they do need to try harder because they are losing customers at a time where their consumer base should be expanding. I guess they feel they can reap (rape...whatever) more profits from the remaining (overly loyal) consumer base than they could by working hard to expand their consumer base. It helps that the industry has managed to convince many of the overly loyal gamers that if they don't fold for every nickel and dime scheme, that the industry will crash.
And who knows, maybe they really have painted themselves into that corner at this point.
 

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This video is definitely something that I can agree with, mostly with regards to having dealt with fanboys (and haven't we all?). I honestly fail to see how people can completely and utterly ignore or trash the opinions of others on a game, despite the fact that opinions are just that: OPINIONS! A person says that they think a game's story is too convoluted and everyone jumps down their throat about how they're too stupid to understand the plot. Someone makes a topic about how they don't like X character for Y reason, and people call them a troll. You say that you're not a fan of the combat system but love everything else in the game, and you're told to "Go back to CoD n00b!" There's no level-headed discussion, no debate, just blind rage over something incredibly trivial.

People need to realize that loving a game does not mean that your are wholly committed to loving said game. Nothing is perfect, nor should anything be considered perfect, so why do people find it so damn hard to accept that their favorite games aren't perfect? I love Dark Souls and consider it to be one of the best games I've ever played. Yet its online is by no means the greatest, it's got its fair share of broken equipment for PvP, the lack of direction can bother some people, and there are nasty glitches that seriously screw with PvP. But, to me, all of that is offset by its incredibly deep lore, amazing combat system, wonderful atmosphere, and great player customization. So I recognize and accept the bad, and love the good. Is that such a hard thing for others to do?
 

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AdmiralMemo said:
Jim: I take it that you like the product (Chick-Fil-A sandwiches) but hate the business (Chick-Fil-A corporation). Just like you like games, but hate the business that sells them. And that's your God-given right.
I don't think I've ever eaten there, and given that they've actively donated money toward gross institutions like Focus on the Family, I don't think I will. It goes beyond hating the business and not wanting to put money into the hands of those who fund causes that disgust me.

I can see where you wanted this to go though and don't fault the attempt!
 

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sindremaster said:
balberoy said:
carnex said:
....

That means, as long as you buy games, they will continue to do what they do because they would lose money doing otherwise.
Sry Jim he is right.

Stop buying games is the only way to stop EA, Activision and Ubisoft.

Ubisoft even hacks into your browser, evidently.
Stop supporting those companies, do not buy their games.

Thats the only way to beat them,
if you Jim really love video games,
say that people shall stop buying them.

There just is no other way.

with regards
The problem with this is that it also hurts developers, not just the publisher. I really don't like giving money to EA, but I want to support Bioware so I buy their games.
This is the wrong prespective.
If the developer doesn't produce the games we want (what the apparently don't do anymore)
and it's the publishers mistake, those developers will search a new publisher.

But you still buy games and so nothing will change.

For me noone who still buys from EA, Activision and Ubisoft is a Gamer.
Sry, those "customers" pay for destroying our loved hobby.
 

AdmiralMemo

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Jimothy Sterling said:
AdmiralMemo said:
Jim: I take it that you like the product (Chick-Fil-A sandwiches) but hate the business (Chick-Fil-A corporation). Just like you like games, but hate the business that sells them. And that's your God-given right.
I don't think I've ever eaten there, and given that they've actively donated money toward gross institutions like Focus on the Family, I don't think I will. It goes beyond hating the business and not wanting to put money into the hands of those who fund causes that disgust me.

I can see where you wanted this to go though and don't fault the attempt!
I guess I thought too hard into your intro and thought it was more than a non sequitur, then.
 

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I'll have to bookmark this video. Not because I think it's intellectually stimulating. In fact, I haven't been able to load the damn thing. And as long as the Escapist insists on running that "Creators Project" ad in the upper right corner of the screen, it doesn't look like my current system wants to.

There are easier ways to sell me on the benefits of the subscription, guys.
 

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balberoy said:
This is the wrong prespective.
If the developer doesn't produce the games we want (what the apparently don't do anymore)
and it's the publishers mistake, those developers will search a new publisher.

But you still buy games and so nothing will change.

For me noone who still buys from EA, Activision and Ubisoft is a Gamer.
Sry, those "customers" pay for destroying our loved hobby.
But they do produce the games I want, I just hate the publishers for different reasons.
I love Bioware games, but I hate what EA does with DLC.
I love Assassin's Creed, but I hate Ubisoft's DRM.
Bioware is owned by EA and Ubisoft makes AC, which means they can't find a new publisher. I love their games and want to support the devs so I buy their games.
 

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Chik Fil A is awesome. Tastes yummy. Eat their in Florida on holiday. So if a person doesnt agree with gay marriage, who cares. Even i dont care. Its a matter between the people getting married. I think all people should be able to marry who the want whether male or female. I dont care because its so common sense than its boring and i dont know why its a problem. But, a person is still allowed to disagree with gay marriage, as long as they arent interfering. Like i hate cheese, religion and sex changes but i would never, ever stop another person from eating cheese, being religious or having a sex change. Only time i would complain would be if someone offered me cheese, preached to me or if a woman i dated said "i was born a man" would i voice my opinion.

Its ok to personally hate stuff. But when you put those personal beliefs on others, thats where i have an issue.

As for games. Stop remaking the same game every year just cos its popular. Looking at you COD and every sports game released. Do something different. People may hate it but atleast they tried. Look at Cod and then DA2 - CoD stayed the same DA2 was hated but love it as they tried something different. If your just going to release the same game again then sell it cheap instead of full price.
 

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I also hate video games, they need to fucking die but I say this because I love them.

I disagree with this generation being the best, the shit far far far outweighs the good. The best period for video games was the PS2, Gamecube and Xbox generation (I still find myself playing those games). I am looking forward to nothing coming out and the last game I purchased was Max Payne 3 which I found to be average.

While I am at it *takes deep breath* : Skyrim was shit, Mass Effect 3 is shit (regardless of the endings), Motion Controls are shit, Resident Evil 6 looks and plays like shit, Splinter Cell and XCOM have been bastardized, Call of Duty is still getting yearly releases, Pandemic Studios and 96 other game studios have closed since 2006, DRM is rampant, "Social Gaming" is a fucking terrible idea and to top it all off everyone will say otherwise and the majority will continue to buy this crap.

Yep we are definitely living in the best period of video games alright.
 

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Jimothy Sterling said:
AdmiralMemo said:
Jim: I take it that you like the product (Chick-Fil-A sandwiches) but hate the business (Chick-Fil-A corporation). Just like you like games, but hate the business that sells them. And that's your God-given right.
I don't think I've ever eaten there, and given that they've actively donated money toward gross institutions like Focus on the Family, I don't think I will. It goes beyond hating the business and not wanting to put money into the hands of those who fund causes that disgust me.

I can see where you wanted this to go though and don't fault the attempt!
I thought this whole deal was already known, why am I seeing all of this stuff now? I could have sworn MovieBob posted about it on his blog at least a few months ago. Still eating there for reason's of my own (NO, I DON'T AGREE WITH THE ANTI-GAY VIEWS) but I understand why others will not and respect that.

Back to the topic at hand, I like the attitude you have in this one, all too often people seem to confuse constructive criticism with hatred (and sometimes the other way around) often responding terribly and stifling what could improve a product. Anyway have a good day!
 

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SonOfVoorhees said:
The issue is not about what the CEO said. That's just what the spark for the protests was. They haven't changed their business practices in years, and haven't hidden them, but the comments got more people looking into it. They've found that Chick-Fil-A sends plenty of money to various organizations that support traditional marriage and protest gay marriage.

I think this is the right of the CEO and board to do whatever they want with their profits, just like it is the right of anyone who doesn't support those causes to boycott the company. Gay marriage advocates are boycotting Chick-Fil-A. One Million Moms is boycotting JC Penny due to them hiring Ellen DeGeneres as their spokeswoman. If there was a company that was giving their profits to the KKK, I think most people would boycott that company.
But as to the company itself, as long as they're above-board and not discriminating against their employees or customers, it's their legal right to give their profits to whoever they want, in my opinion.
 

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Totally hate all the things about gaming you listed and more!

- Not owning your games after 2 years, if you happen not to play them/log in to the system that sold them to you. (by that logic I would have lost all my Amiga and Megadrive games etc.)
The fact that you can have your games taken away from you "under the right circumstances".

- That if you delete your account with Uplay from Ubi for example, you also loose ALL your games. No way of just deleting the account and keeping the rights to the games you paid for.
Don't like their system? Well that will cost you the keys to ALL your Ubi games.

- The price of downloadable games. With them, you can barely even say that you own them, you have no physical material costs, yet you still pay full price.

- The ridiculous EULA that you have to agree to in order to play the game.
They all basically say "we the publisher can do whatever the fuck we want with the game that isn't really yours anyway and you waive the right to anything. At all."
They can be that ridiculous because you as a customer will not know prior to buying the game what the terms will be.

- The fact that virtually no game is complete on initial sale and that often you have to pay double to actually play the complete version.
If anyone for example tries to tell me that BF3 costs 40? all I could do is chuckle at them.

- The fact that the multiplayer side of games can sometimes last no longer than a year if the dev/publishers decides it should be so.
Even if the game is mainly a multiplayer type of game... well shit out of luck my friend. Enjoy the tutorial levels.

- The fact that devs/publishers sometimes even try and "black mail" their customers.


Seriously. The business side of gaming at the moment is at it's worst. It's really depressing to me.