Jimquisition: Metacritic Isn't the Problem
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Why does he keep bringing up god? I don't have a problem with it I am just wondering if it is an attempt to antagonize those who would jump all over that subject or if he is more genuine about it. I think it is humorous but I also don't want to take that statement in the wrong manner. Since his tone of voice and usage of the term seems like he is trying to get some negative responses. The broken yet common phrase "Not sure if troll" seems to apply here as my general statement.
If you want to be taken a little more seriously, might I suggest you get your hands on a camera with better quality. I think half the haters will shut up if these videos were much less grainy.Jim Sterling said:
You do have a have point with Medacritic, it is not to blame for anything just as a gun maker isn't at fault for a shooting, your video's are just irritating to look at compared to the "cleaner" looking ZP or EC.
Beggin' your pardon, but I have a question.Woodsey said:
Are you saying that people (unlike the person you were responding to) who don't like the show have any less of a right to say what they don't like? I mean, to be fair, Jim IS a critic, isn't he? Turnabout is fair play and all that.
Besides, what do you care if people comment that they hate it?
OT: Great Jim. I just love your sense of humor. Or how you keep being sarcastic. I honestly hope you start by saying "Preps, stop flammin' the story"
Really Metacritic's biggest problem is this:
You can't simply equate one site's review score with another's. IGN really only uses the top of its 10 point scale for example, other sites use the whole range. The Escapist's system also doesn't convert over to the 100 point scale very well either.
I find trying to average all these scores that may mean different things in the context of their own system a bit disingenuous.
I do however find Metacritic useful for seeing how a game is doing in general, not by looking at its Metascore but through it giving me a quick look at the various reviews its collected. From there I'll usually look at a couple of the best and worst reviews and use that to figure out whether or not I'll go for the game.
You can't simply equate one site's review score with another's. IGN really only uses the top of its 10 point scale for example, other sites use the whole range. The Escapist's system also doesn't convert over to the 100 point scale very well either.
I find trying to average all these scores that may mean different things in the context of their own system a bit disingenuous.
I do however find Metacritic useful for seeing how a game is doing in general, not by looking at its Metascore but through it giving me a quick look at the various reviews its collected. From there I'll usually look at a couple of the best and worst reviews and use that to figure out whether or not I'll go for the game.
Well, there's one thing I agree with this week: too many people put way too much stock in scores. I still think scores should just go away from all reviews though. They're too vague to tell me if a game is something I would enjoy or not; the full review is always needed. Either I check the score first and go "Well shit, that didn't tell me anything. Guess I'd better read the review.", or I read the review first and then get to the score and say "What do I need this for? I already know about the game after reading the review."
I don't know why both gamers and the industry focus on scores so damn much. It seems like the only real use for them is to make sure your reviews can get on Metacritic which gets you more attention from readers and publishers. That and keeping the stupid people who rely on scores too much happy, but as I'm not responsible for making sure a website gets enough traffic to stay in business, I'm more inclined to say let them suffer without scores.
In the end, ignoring review scores is easy, but ignoring all the idiots who constantly whine and piss and moan and cry about the score a game got (Duke Nukem Forever for example, or if anyone else remembers a few years back when GameSpot gave Twilight Princes an 8.8 and from the reaction you would have thought the world was going to end) is really hard. Maybe there needs to be some add-on for browsers that auto-scans forums and video content and if it's someone whining about a game's review score, it gets auto-hidden. Ah, what a wonderful internet that would be.
I don't know why both gamers and the industry focus on scores so damn much. It seems like the only real use for them is to make sure your reviews can get on Metacritic which gets you more attention from readers and publishers. That and keeping the stupid people who rely on scores too much happy, but as I'm not responsible for making sure a website gets enough traffic to stay in business, I'm more inclined to say let them suffer without scores.
In the end, ignoring review scores is easy, but ignoring all the idiots who constantly whine and piss and moan and cry about the score a game got (Duke Nukem Forever for example, or if anyone else remembers a few years back when GameSpot gave Twilight Princes an 8.8 and from the reaction you would have thought the world was going to end) is really hard. Maybe there needs to be some add-on for browsers that auto-scans forums and video content and if it's someone whining about a game's review score, it gets auto-hidden. Ah, what a wonderful internet that would be.
For the love of all things, this. This is the 9th video of the series as far as its run on The Escapist goes. If you don't like it yet, you aren't going to, so quit watching every week just to flame the show and Jim in the comments. Go find something better to do with your time.Woodsey said:
As stated, this is the 9th video. People should have learned weeks ago that they don't like it and thus they shouldn't watch anymore. I think it's fair to tell the remaining people who watch knowing full well they won't like it and then come on here just to insult Jim to shut it and go do something else. Constructive criticism I have no problem with, but come on, is it necessary to watch and comment "I hate this I wish Escapist would remove it" every week? If they really want it to go away they should just stop watching entirely anyway, because not enough views is what kills a show, not people watching it and bitching about it.CM156 said:
I've never even been on meta critic before. Is it really that big a deal? Do publishers really think that they will sink or swim if they don't get a decent score on the site? I can say that as a consumer, reviews. especially teh 1-10/10 kind don't mean crap to me and do not affect my purchases.
Have to say part of the fun of watching this is reading some of the comments later on by people hating it so much, so great comment on this early in the video.
Some great comments in the video, from this one and some other things said on here especially also by yahtzee you can really get the feeling that publishers are lately the main thing that seems to be wrong with the gaming industry.
Some great comments in the video, from this one and some other things said on here especially also by yahtzee you can really get the feeling that publishers are lately the main thing that seems to be wrong with the gaming industry.
Its 9 in videos in; there's been plenty of time to whine and complain. People won't like everything on the site - they don't venture in hordes onto the other stuff to write comments that aren't even critical of the actual piece, but simply the show's existence.CM156 said:
But that still begs the question of why you at all care? Really, if people leave negative comments, even if they are ill informed, how do they affect/bother you?Woodsey said:
It seems that not all of us are blessed with the ability to detect satire.
This show is just a wonderful mish-mash of serious content and flippant smack-talk, all wrapped in a sarcastically arrogant presentation. A brilliant juxtaposition of the thought-provoking and frivolous.
Is this the genre called Jarnalizm?
This show is just a wonderful mish-mash of serious content and flippant smack-talk, all wrapped in a sarcastically arrogant presentation. A brilliant juxtaposition of the thought-provoking and frivolous.
Is this the genre called Jarnalizm?
I dunno, why do they bother suspending people who leave "First!" comments on videos before watching them? Probably because its irritating and the rest of us don't want to have to read a bunch of shit before we can find something worthwhile to respond too.CM156 said:
Not everyone is going to like everything. And that's alright. If people want to express reasons why the don't like a show, such as problems they see with it, the first response shouldn't be "Don't like it; don't watch it". The show's existance to them causes as much harm as their comments do to you.Woodsey said:
While his opinions are something that I mostly I agree with, I do not like his style of delivery. I realize that it's all an act because no man alive can have a personality so grating and obnoxious but really, if Jim toned it down I think more people would watch his show.
See, I've never watched a video by this person. The logo design for it has done its job in making him into the character he's trying to be: Loud and self-important (note the color choice and the way he's standing). That just doesn't interest me.
Then, reading the tag line, "Oh you poor, sad little cretins. You are all so wrong. Always. Forever. Jim Sterling illuminates your path, but what good does that do when you refuse to open your eyes? Oh, he's so much better than you," makes my skin crawl. I don't understand why this man feels he needs to constantly insult his viewers. I can honestly say I'll never watch a video of his because of trash talk like this.
Then, reading the tag line, "Oh you poor, sad little cretins. You are all so wrong. Always. Forever. Jim Sterling illuminates your path, but what good does that do when you refuse to open your eyes? Oh, he's so much better than you," makes my skin crawl. I don't understand why this man feels he needs to constantly insult his viewers. I can honestly say I'll never watch a video of his because of trash talk like this.
I haven't watched a Jimquisition episode since the CoD ep with the short bit on art. And with that being said I HAVEN'T had to watch it seeing as how unlike the other shows here on the escapist you can get the jist of what he said from the title and what people say in the thread that follows. I get that he has opinions on things but also touting himself as gamings biggest douche and acting like it too is what turns A LOT of people off.Woodsey said: