Jimquisition: PS4 - Doing Nothing, Meaning Everything

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Sofus

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Isn't it possible to use steam on the consoles? if valve bring game sharing to its steam program then the xbox one might just be the better choice (for me atleast). Now I don't own a console, and haven't owned one the last decade, but if steam add's game sharing (and if the xbox one can use steam) then I would probably be interested in buying one.

I hate having physical copies of my games, as the cd's always end up with a few scratches not to mention the number of a cd keys i've lost simply because I moved to a new home and the manual to the game somehow got lost or thrown away in the mess.
 

Mazimadu

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Sofus said:
Isn't it possible to use steam on the consoles?
That is never going to happen. I recall Gabe Newell stating that MS tries to nickel and dime developers every time they try to add digital content to any of their games. Wither it be patches, DLC or updates. This is the reason why the orange box and Left4dead have no DLC updates. I also recall a similar thing for Fez when it was released.

Besides, Xbox live is already an online client. Why would MS allow a competitor service on its own device.
 

ugxwolf

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MrHide-Patten said:
Big_Isaac said:
what do you think about Nintendo's more snarky remark "if you're worried about used games sales, make better games"?
If the Wii-U had more games in its Library, people wouldn't desperately hold onto anything that's good. Oh yes, I went there. I'm classy like that.
If other companies made games with even remotely as much replayability, I'd consider this a good argument. There's just one problem. They generally don't. Want proof? Go look at the yearly sales for any notable Wii game from the console's early days. Mario Kart Wii and Brawl are still selling well, 5-7 years after launch. That's because they're still good.

Besides your whole argument hinges on the idea that anyone /needs/ to buy a Wii U to play Nintendo games, or that Nintendo is even relying on the Wii U to make them money. Your whole argument falls apart, because all we have to do is occupy our time with the 3DS and whatever else we feel like playing until the Wii U has a good enough gaming library, which for me, is around the last three months of the year.
 

MrHide-Patten

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ugxwolf said:
If other companies made games with even remotely as much replayability, I'd consider this a good argument. There's just one problem. They generally don't. Want proof? Go look at the yearly sales for any notable Wii game from the console's early days. Mario Kart Wii and Brawl are still selling well, 5-7 years after launch. That's because they're still good.

Besides your whole argument hinges on the idea that anyone /needs/ to buy a Wii U to play Nintendo games, or that Nintendo is even relying on the Wii U to make them money. Your whole argument falls apart, because all we have to do is occupy our time with the 3DS and whatever else we feel like playing until the Wii U has a good enough gaming library, which for me, is around the last three months of the year.
Besides the fact I was being hyperbolic, if I was a retailer and some family bought a really cheap console (the Wii) the selection of games I would recommend them would be rather slim, only an asshole would push shovel ware (which the Wii has in droves). So yeah of course those games still sell, fuck any game still sells well that had a positive reception.

I'm not getting the Wii-U personally because there's nothing there that makes me jump out of my seat to buy it. It also suffers from having a gimmick that's harder to market than the Wii's motion controls, and the whole tablet market has been dominated by Apple and Android devices. I don't see the lightning striking twice, and whilst their initiative to get more 3rd party dev's interested is good, it's undone by the PS4 and Xbox 1 being vastly more powerful than it, leaving it on the same position the Wii was in.

If the system came out with a genuine Mario game (like 64, Sunshine, or Galaxy), Legend of Zelda, or a Metroid game. People would be really jumping onto it. I bought the Wii because I thought Twilight Princess looked cool, and Metroid Prime 3 is one of my favorite games from this gen. So I'm not railing against Nintendo here out of spite or something, just walking by a restaurant that's serving breakfast at lunch.
 

MichaelMaverick

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It's funny because realistically Sony had no other option than doing nothing. The most you can be thankful for is that they're not equally as retarded as Microsoft. I don't begrudge them their dressing it up as an act of kindness they went out of their way to do, but everyone who ate that PR bullshit up is shallow and should probably explode themselves.
 

LordMonty

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Bit late in posting due to being away but all of this just makes me pleased for us as gamers. Microsoft was damning us and Sony kept the faith. Gave the standard we expected and the hope that this'll all be ok and we'll be treated resonably. They didn't do much but in a way they did a lot.
 

Bujiraso

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Amen Jim.
Microsoft is indeed against the consumer.
Or perhaps, more accurately, *for* corporations. Which nearly always falls against the consumer.