Jimquisition: Shadiness of Mordor

[JohnFei]

Oh I think it's quite courageous of him. Very golfclap worthy.

Yet your tone suggests it's not.

You think?

He wasn't, he hasn't and he doesn't. He has criticised collusion in the past, he has criticised lack of disclosure, he has called out industry BS a lot of time, he recognised the games media's tenddency to belittle its audience and issued his own mea culpas on the issue (back in 2012)

All of which, in the past. Nice of you to nail it so eloquently for me tho.

Jim Sterling is a hypocrite because he only stands up for consumers against certain parties. I like your comparison with Kain, who despite staying neutral, has actively engaged with Gamergate and called out the bullshit from the journalists. Meanwhile, Jim is busy deflecting for his pals and refusing to join the discussion, content with taking potshots at some shitty PR company and youtubers. Sure, the draconian conditions should be condemned, but his silence on the elephant in the room is deafening.

And that elephant's just gonna get bigger and bigger.

Doritosgate had absolutely zero consequences (well, at least one site changed its terms of service, but funnily enough, #gamergate has it blacklisted), and your bringing about ME3 is moot given the fact that I didn't bring it up. so, yeah, there's that.

I like your debate style, it's kind of adorable. And still tragically missing the point.

 

[JohnFei]

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Your need to resort to condesdendence, adorable as it is, is not worth the time of me lowering myself down to it. Not with so many issues raised which still remained unresolved. Until such a time when that occurs, your debate style will remain inexistant, and will not be engaged.

Feel free to drop by anytime with actual counter arguments, though.

Still adorable.

Nice talking to you too. Try again when you're not demanding consumers to do journalists' job for them.

 

[MerlinCross]

I wonder if the shitty indie devs who load up Steam with their shite, will start using things like this.

Not gonna happen. No way the indies have the legal muscle to pull this off. Nah they're just file copyrights with Youtube and let the system do the rest.

Gah this is just ugly.

 

[Aurion]

It's easy going after targets who produce games you don't like. The true test of ethics is when it involves someone or something you like.

Exactly the problem with Sterling. And he didn't pass the test.

Conflicting feelings always are a *****, aren't they?

Especially when they're taken as CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF DER HYPOCRITCY by people with agendas.

Not saying either of you fine gentlemen have an agenda. Of course.

 

[Rubescent]

Oh you see clearly they got there Tailer Rules mixed up with there Review rules because seriously all that crap that is being procured sounds more like the rules to a commercial or a interview with a developer who hate giving away any secrets and can NEVER give any bad press or even just a trailer or something I don't know I'm just saying that's what it sounds like not the rules for a reviewer to follow but the rules of someone trying to make a commercial for it

 

[TheUnbeholden]

Too bad this had to be a negative video about the publishers. This game was quite simply, amazing, and I am disappointed in the practices they tried to pull.

Yeah now the negative publicity because of this might overshadow conversations about how the game is actually like. Potentially creating another Barbara Streisand effect, particularly because gamers and critics alike are very sensitive when it comes to censorship.

 

[Irick]

Exactly the problem with Sterling. And he didn't pass the test.

I'm always amused when people try to make Gamergate an AAA vs Indie issue. Many of us have been boycotting AAA for years, we were rooting for the indies. But indies let us down.

He has criticized indie devs before for censoring commentary on their games. He even called it out as even more prevalent than AAA titles.

I know you are angry with the perception of him, but this portrayal is simply not correct.
Jim Sterling is a respectable journalist.

 

[ironballs16]

I actually sent a polite email to Plaid Social after reading the article done by Erik Kain on Forbes and watching this vid, hoping that it might impress upon them that, even if the short-term gains might be higher due to such tactics, it WILL hurt in the long-run. I'd encourage anyone else bugged by this issue to do the same.