Jimquisition: Too Cool To Be Cool

[personion]

This is hilarious. This series is hilarious. Maybe the first few weren't so good, but he seems to be listening to comments (even if he's ignoring them) and his last few episodes have been awesome. I like him as a break to extra credits and the escapist magazine when it comes to talking about games because he's so arrogant and self righteous it's hilarious!

 

[zombiesinc]

I quite enjoyed this episode, it's great to see actual changes and improvements with the overall presentation. What's even better is that you took the time to read through the comments and take what you thought would work, and implemented it.

The only thing I'm finding distracting is the difference in audio quality when speaking on and off screen. Although it's not a huge deal, it's something that distracts me from what's actually being said.

 

[ProjectTrinity]

Actually, it's your ever-so excellent ability to properly respond to people desiring logical explanations on top of the Fox News defending (a station that happens to do the same thing) that makes it easy to dismiss your credibility.

If you think I'm not worth talking to, since everything I say is garbage, then piss off. Otherwise, you're still responding, so obviously you care what I have to say.

Defending Fox News doesn't undermine my credibility. That's guilt by association and I don't think you're so stupid as to not realize that that makes no sense.

It gives the impression that much like Fox, you're talking for the sake of talking rather than trying to learn or understand anything

Sorry, what were you talking about again? I lost track after you went off ranting about how I have no credibility.

and that is reason enough for me and anyone else not to take you seriously.

Then why. are you. responding. to me.

I think you're trying to have your cake and eat it too, ranting how everything I say is worthless, but still valid enough to get your attention. Yawn. Are we done here?

Oh dear, I think you're putting my personality on the same area as yours...it's not. I have enough respect for people in general to answer when spoken to and...dare I say, answer as much as I can when asked? Now, reread my comments and quote me on where I said what you said was absolutely worthless. Sure I question your credibility, for WAY more than Fox News (As I told you), but that doesn't mean I'll ignore everything you say. Being rude is not my area of expertise. And no, dismissing your opinion is not the same as finding it completely worthless.

However, I'm still waiting for your answer on how Extra Credits is pretentious when they don't even fit the literal definition: "Attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed." As far as I and the majority of us think, the knowledge they speak is more than fine and they actually possess it - hence the following.

I also asked you if it was because they were talking about how Fox News was treating a game designer during a debate that sparked your dislike for them (further).

Once they went unaddressed, twice, I questioned your credibility. So in short: I don't find what you say worthless, I want the answers. I'm a truth seeker who isn't a fan of running. You avoiding several posts (not just from me, by the way) clues in that you want your opinion while closing your ears to anything that may change that opinion. I want to know if that's the case with you before I permanently decide that talking to you wouldn't broaden my ways of thinking at all.

 

[Aprilgold]

I actually liked this one, after he praticually told me to not only fuck off but he was not TRYING to be serious made me want to watch him, and I actually laughed. Apparently I'm one of those people who can't tell if someone was trying to be serious or be straight up silly, damn your poke face jim, damn it. I like this series, never looking at any of the other videos before this one in fear of seeing his shitty side again, but I do think he would be awesome to continue on here.

... Ok, is The Escapist just trolling us now? Why is this show still around?

Thats what I thought way back in the olden videos once he was put on here after the second week, but the only reason is because he is funny in the whole, "I'm a overconfident shit, but I am also funny." It took me a while to understand the whole irony twist and everything. OR I've been blinded by being up too late. OR THE SECOND OPTION IS that the escapist is doing it as a way to troll like Valve. And don't say valve isn't above trolling. Or I'm thinking of blizzard, or something, I'll probably edit this with the correct one soon.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Oh I understand your persona is ironic, I think we all do. The thing is, we just don't like your fucking personality.

And no, it isn't in that "Yeah he's a dick, but that's just who he is" kind of pride way. We just don't fucking like you. Your series is bad. But it's getting better.

Truth be told, I kind of liked this one. It was interesting and I think the formula of less camera on you, and more with the voiceover running across game clips could work better. Sort of like Charlie Brooker's approach in his Screenwipe series. Don't get me wrong, the false sense of grandeur thing is funny when done right, and you're doing it right. It's just the actual sense of grandeur you should really rework.

 

[Yopaz]

I actually liked this episode. It's good to see this series getting better and better seeing I hated the first one, disliked the second one. The ones after that entertained me. He does make some good points, but I'm not sure if I agree with him.

 

[Boba Frag]

Keep doing what you're doing, man.

I believe the internet way of saying that is "haters gonna hate" etc. Some people just don't get irony, sarcasm, persona, suspension of disbelief, satire... Humour....

The list is endless, really. You keep putting the stuff up and keep up your glorious V for Vendetta campaign against stupidity, and I'll keep laughing all the way.

 

[Cali0602]

Pretty much reinforcing what has already been said over the last several dozen comments:

1. Good progress compared to the first episode. A decrease in face time and an increase in looking at other things is always a plus. The red/black color combination is a bit rough on the eyes after a while.

2. Good points on the Sonic character issue. If you dig past the facade of irony, deprecation, satire or whatever you want to call it, Jim makes some good points on [somewhat] interesting topics.

3. Disagree with the Duke claim. It's fun to be a pretentious badass, and that's what Duke allows players to do. I don't think anyone looks at him as a character to idolize or emulate. It's just a lot of fun to go with it...kind of like the Chuck Norris jokes. Duke is a man's man in a man's world, just go with it and enjoy the satire. (Life is fun when nothing is taken seriously)

4. Overall show, meh. Good points made in most of these episodes, but viewers have to scrape through layers of stuff to get to it (annoying voice, eyesore visuals, not-satirical-enough persona). Either an improvement on the persona is needed or a complete shift in the method of presentation.

 

[Cedric Plante]

4. Overall show, meh. Good points made in most of these episodes, but viewers have to scrape through layers of stuff to get to it (annoying voice, eyesore visuals, not-satirical-enough persona). Either an improvement on the persona is needed or a complete shift in the method of presentation.

Good observations, I agree with your points.

Just like it's been stated before, it's a toss up which is more pathetic. People taking this poor excuse for hyperbole (which is the Jimquisition) seriously, or your repeated need to explain it to people, like that's going to make it any better. Jim Says: "Oh if only they knew I was acting like a self important jerk, they'd really get me, and love and respect my deep, expansive retrospect on all things video games."

I agree that maybe something is not working here if the author need to state to his audience that they are watching a "character". If you look at the other escapist features like Zero Punctuation & Movie Bob, they also have a character but they don't need to point at this or to excuse it (or maybe kind of use it as a shield).

 

[TStormer]

I like this guy, he's getting into his swing. I totally disagree about Duke, I don't think he IS played straight, and they have hinted there's going to be more to him than meets the eye.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

... Ok, is The Escapist just trolling us now? Why is this show still around?

Because every episode a bunch of people like yourself show it attention and act like you hate it.

I don't like Fox News, yet I don't go around raging about how much crap they are. I understand intrinsically that they are crap and leave it at that.

You however, by being here, validate him.

I don't mind him, he has some good commentary in between the dry spots. The most bothersome part about it is the episodic return of people bantering about him.

It's like folks who star at car accidents and act mortified but never look away and never refrain from slowing down to see a new accident in the future.

The problem is that there is no other way for people to express their rage for him except in these comments sections. Presumably (and I suppose I could be completely misunderstanding the concept of a forum) someone in power reads these comments, and realises whether a show is liked or not. Because otherwise the entire site is not being run at all for the people who frequent it.

It also shows a massive hypocrisy on the part of the Escapist. If I was to make a topic, and the next ten pages were all attacking me, saying I was trolling, that my points were all wrong and badly researched, I'd be probationed and the thread locked. Jim makes an episode which is nothing but trolling (I'm not talking about this one in paritcular because after the first three I haven't watched a single one) and the comments stack up.

And comparing him to Yahtzee isn't accurate either. Yahtzee gets pages and pages of comments, of which I would be prepared to bet heavily that less than half, or maybe even less than a quarter, are negative. However I remember Jim's first video getting nearly athousand straight negative comments. If the Escapist was actually using a comments forum for the purpose a comments forum is supposed to be used for they would have seen that very few people on the site want him to be here and gotten rid of him.

Even additional to the hate against him in his own videos, there have been several poll threads of 'do you like Jimquisition' and the answer every time (before it got locked) was over half, 'we hate him, he has no business on this site.' If there is no way to make our opinions heard, then what's the point in providing a comments section, you might as well just say 'We will show the videos we like and you will appreciate it motherfuckers.' It reeks of something.

 

[Nyquisted]

Jim, excellent work.
Let the haters hate.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

It's not that we don't GET that the persona is fake.
It just isn't funny. Maybe if you acted like Fabio, that would be cheesey enough to be 'funny bad'. As it is, taking a Master Race approach doesn't work for comedy.

 

[Relaver]

I know he is trying to be satirical but it just comes off that he is a a-hole.

 

[Jyggalag]

This has to be the most laughably ironic Jimquisition episode made...and that EXACTLY what he was planning. Well done, Jim.

 

[FarleShadow]

Ok, so I like the Escapist, they give content that is either great or just ok, they tend to understand the gaming demographic.

Then they give us this 'Jim' character, an overweight, unfunny idiot, who tries to review 'Duke Nukem' as if it isn't trying to take its own piss. I mean really, is the Escapist trying to actively mock the gaming nerds that feed it? Jim, playing the character of an overweight, unfunny nerd, who, in turn, is playing a greater, unfunnier nerd because 'that's funny lol!' isn't funny. Whoo! Quote V for Vendetta! Be English!

Jim, himself says, "People want to see people not as Icon of coolness, just lower on the social totum pole of coolness, someone who thinks they're awesome, but everybody knows they're shit"

Wow jim! Way to understand how the majority think of you! Get this shit off the Escapist, atleast then we can go back to pretending that Jim doesn't represent the majority of gamers, those sexually unsatisfied, toilet-tucking, overweight dickpistons that pretend they're funny when in reality they're about as funny as getting flesh-eating bacteria.

 

[Booze Zombie]

I had always taken that the entire world Duke was in was a parody, so that him playing it straight is "the joke", I suppose.

 

[joystickjunki3]

I didn't originally want to post on this thread because I wasn't really sure what to say. But, after much thought, I've pretty much figured it out.

Jim makes a couple good points, but making Duke Nukem "too cool to be cool" takes away part of his character. It works for Sam; part of his charm is the fact that he really isn't that cool. But with Duke, it's not just the character that we're making fun of. Duke's world is a world that could never exist, and that's why it's funny and "cool."

 

[Skyy High]

I still think the point of this was he was trying to be ironic by being so deliberately blind to the fact that his own character is exactly as laughably over-the-top as Duke. I think. Because otherwise, the show makes no sense. Honestly, I think the real problem with this video was the divergence into talking about Sonic, because that part of it wasn't satirical or ironic in any way. I think most viewers probably took it at face value and agreed with it, which made it harder to tell for sure if the rest of it is supposed to be taken seriously or not. And, no, that's not a problem with the viewers, it's a problem with the show; anyone can make a video that's deliberately impossible to tell if it's serious or not, by being just ridiculous enough to provoke a reaction while still presenting an opinion that someone could conceivably hold. See: Poe's Law.

In short: I really don't think Jim's missing the point of Duke here, I think he swung for an extremely subtle shot at people who don't "get" his character, but because he mixed it with a (seemingly) genuine suggestion for the Sonic franchise, and the fact that it seems like people just expect him to have ridiculous opinions, it was completely missed by the majority of posters.

Ooooor he's just a dick who doesn't understand Duke Nukem.

 

[Adultism]

I love how people are actually insulting Jim, I bet hes sitting in his huge throne and laughing at all of you, seriously, this is not meant to be taken seriously, its just a video. Get over it.